Scott Allan goes on loan

[Since452]

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Not for the remainder of this season we are not.

So are Inverness not going to play him then ?

All managers lie, it wouldn’t be the first time Ross has. He likes to keep players onside, I get it, but I don’t believe him when he said he wanted to keep him as part of the group. He said the same about Mallan, he said he didn’t want to sell Shaw.

Seems an incredibly odd think to lie about

[Greenio]

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Stokes, Ambrose, Commons to Hibs?

None of them returned to the parent club though.which is what people are saying is going to happen.

[jeffers]

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Seems an incredibly odd think to lie about

I don’t necessarily think so. When he joined former players said it was a strength of Ross’ that he made players who were out of the picture feel involved and wanted.

[MWHIBBIES]

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None of them returned to the parent club though.which is what people are saying is going to happen.

Stokes did, he then moved on to Blackburn.

None of them were key players before a serious heart condition either. Allan will be back. He was key for Ross before injury and started games this season too.

[B.H.F.C]

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I don’t necessarily think so. When he joined former players said it was a strength of Ross’ that he made players who were out of the picture feel involved and wanted.

It’s obvious that Ross doesn’t think he can contribute at the moment or he would have been putting him on the pitch. He’s been quite clever in avoiding saying that publicly though. Managers do it all the time, as you say.

[BoomtownHibees]

Can he come back and play in the cup final?

[Zambernardi1875]

Good move for Scott great idea to get fit, would’ve liked him to go to Dundee with mcpake Cummings and Adam instead

[Smartie]

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He's not our best player right now though. Far from it. This isn't the Scott Allan of old. He's been through a life changing ordeal. He asked for the move because he knows he can't deliver at this level.

We don’t know that though.

We saw nothing of Darren McGregor then he came in and looked every bit as good as he did before.

Scott Allan set up a decent chance for Nisbet against Motherwell and showed nice touches at Hampden - both horrible team performances to come on into.

Truth is, none of us really knows much so will read what we will into it all. I rate Scott Allan highly and whilst I can certainly understand the appeal for him to go out on loan, you can bet your bottom dollar that when we’re knocked out the Scottish cup and the inevitable meltdown ensues that his is one of the first names to be mentioned as having potentially had the ability to improve our fortunes.

[Billy Whizz]

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Can he come back and play in the cup final?

Not if he’s cup tied on Friday v Ross County
Also Premiership play offs run until after the Cup final, if Inverness were to get that far

[silverhibee]

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Not fit enough?

I do get that, and the manager thinks I can't start with Allen with important games coming up, but what happens when he rocks up to Inverness on Monday for training and McCann and coaching staff have a look at SA and go no chance of him starting games for us and by the time he gets up and running the season will be over, surely McCann hasn't guaranteed he will start with SA, that would be madness and might not go down to well in the ICT dressing room or Allens body.

We could get a point of the stickies and St Js beat the Dons next week and 3rd spot is ours, another win for us after that and we could start SA in games for us to get him match time until end of season, I'm getting the feeling that SA is down the pecking order and knows he has no chance of any game time at Hibs and even if he is getting 20-30 minutes at ICT is better than nothing as that's what players want to do, play football and not sit on the bench knowing you have no chance of getting on.

[Blaster]

Some of the comments on here are crazy

We’re not talking about pre this season Scott Allan here. Surely he’s better getting 70 mins or so most weeks just now than 20 mins max with us. Let’s focus on getting Scott back ready for next season, something which didn’t look possible just a few months ago.

We’ve managed pretty well without him this season. Having him back fully next season will be a great boost

[Greenio]

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Stokes did, he then moved on to Blackburn.

None of them were key players before a serious heart condition either. Allan will be back. He was key for Ross before injury and started games this season too.

I hope you're right. But I don't think he'll be back

[cabbageandribs1875]

today ICT V Arbroath

6th April Morton v ICT
10th April QofS v ICT
17th April ICT v Dundee
24th April Sparryheids v ICT
30th April ICT v Ayr


thine shall be keeping a half of one eye on reports on these games

[MWHIBBIES]

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I hope you're right. But I don't think he'll be back

He has a year on his deal. He will be back. If he finds his form and fitness, he'll walk into the side. If he doesn't he may leave. This loan confirms nothing either way.

[Billy Whizz]

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today ICT V Arbroath

6th April Morton v ICT
10th April QofS v ICT
17th April ICT v Dundee
24th April Sparryheids v ICT
30th April ICT v Ayr


thine shall be keeping a half of one eye on reports on these games

Friday 2nd Ross County v Inverness in the Cup, on BBC

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Friday 2nd Ross County v Inverness in the Cup, on BBC

we'll see if he's risked so soon in a heilan derby


be interesting how long he gets today, surely won't start

[Hibbyradge]

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I hope you're right. But I don't think he'll be back

If he doesn't come back, it'll be because he's either not been able to regain his fitness or because someone's paid us a lot of money for him.

I don't really see what difference there would be regarding his future, if he was kept on the bench at Hibs. IMO, there would be even less chance of him appearing for us next season because his match fitness would be 2 months poorer.

Anyway, I think it's a good move for all involved as does the manager and the player.

Some folk disagree with us all and that's fine. Opinions never change on the forums so not sure there's anything more to add.

[Greenio]

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He has a year on his deal. He will be back. If he finds his form and fitness, he'll walk into the side. If he doesn't he may leave. This loan confirms nothing either way.

Disagree. But hey ho. Good luck to him whatever happens. My fav Hibs player (Well, equal with Michael ONeill!)

[Allant1981]

Some under nonsense posted today, the player has asked to go on loan to get games, if we had nothing to play for just now he might have got that at Hibs but while we are still chasing 3rd place then we can't afford to change things about that much just to give SA game time. Hopefully he gets himself match fit again and comes back ready to play at the top level again next season

[Centre Hawf]

A good move for Scott and us IMO. Don’t care what club he’s at and I’m sure Scott and Hibs looked at who he’s likely to go play for the most.

He has 6 games to play there not just to get fitter for pre season but also to get sharper. I think on every level this is a good move.

[Lendo]

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This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

You don’t speak for me. Perfectly happy with this arrangement. To make the same assumptions you have, I suspect most fans can understand and rationalise the decision.

We’ve got ourselves in to third place without Scott Allan. If he himself doesn’t feel like he’s ready to play in our remaining top six games and thinks a loan move to a lesser league will help him who are we to argue?

[matty_f]

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If its baffling you, read the statement -

Manager Jack Ross said, "We would have preferred to have kept Scott in the group but he expressed a strong desire to go out on loan. Currently, and understandably given the challenges he has faced during the past year he doesn’t feel fit enough to make the impact that his abilities should in the top part of the Premiership. Therefore Scott feels that strengthening his fitness and continuing his recovery in the Championship is a sensible option. We feel that it was appropriate to continue to support Scott in his recovery by sanctioning the loan move."

Sounds like a competent decision with the players best interests at the heart of it..............

Exactly.

You’d have to have some seriously warped logic to take that statement and consider it an incompetent decision.

Scott hasn’t impacted a single game that he’s come on in, since returning to the team. If he needs games it needs to be somewhere where every point is vital to the season’s ambitions, or where his current level can have an impact.

The idea that Jack Ross can’t/won’t/doesn’t accommodate flair/attacking players expressed earlier in the thread doesn’t stand up to any kind of scrutiny either, it’s absolute bollocks.

[superfurryhibby]

Sensible move for all concerned. Here’s hoping he finds the fitness and form he needs.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Disagree. But hey ho. Good luck to him whatever happens. My fav Hibs player (Well, equal with Michael ONeill!)

Why do you disagree, though? is it actually based on anything?

[tamig]

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It’s sad that folk are using this as an excuse to bash Jack Ross.

It’s crazy. Some ridiculous conspiracy theories on this thread.

[Greenio]

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Why do you disagree, though? is it actually based on anything?

Yes, it's based on my opinion that Allan playing 5 games at another club isn't going to translate to him walking back into this hibs team.


Again, hope I'm wrong but that's what I think.

[Hibbyradge]

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Yes, it's based on my opinion that Allan getting match fit at another club isn't going to translate to him walking back into this hibs team.


Again, hope I'm wrong but that's what I think.

So, it's a hunch.

[Greenio]

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So, it's a hunch.

Aye...it's all just hunches and made up *****. Isn't that why were here!!? 😂

[MWHIBBIES]

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Yes, it's based on my opinion that Allan playing 5 games at another club isn't going to translate to him walking back into this hibs team.


Again, hope I'm wrong but that's what I think.

No, but its going to help him get playing games again. Could be 11 games with playoffs and more with cup ties. That is a huge difference for him.

[EI255]

Hope he does well up there, however I fear his days in the top flight may be numbered. I hope I am wrong though.

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