Scott Allan goes on loan

[jeffers]

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Hes not at the level required to make an impact for us in Top6 matches whats so hard to understand about that??
The games he has come on in St J at Hampden and Motherwell at home he's made very little impact and its not fair on him playing a bit part when he's trying to get his fitness levels back up...I dont get why this isn't seen as anything other than a good move for all concerned, tho I do agree id have preferred him to go to Raith or Pars rather than the Jambo love affair of ICT

Yet as you chose to ignore he still set up Nisbet for a great chance which he missed. What’s so hard to understand about that.

And why is everyone talking about there only being league games, are we not playing the Scottish Cup too ?

[davhibby]

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I can't think of it happening to a player of his level. Happy to be proven wrong if you know otherwise

Is that not because normally there are plenty of reserve/development games where a player in Allan’s situation would have spent a while building up game time in those matches before he’d be considered ready for the first team? We’ve not been able to do that.

[Keith_M]

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I feel the same. I don’t think Jack Ross sees him as a key player for us at all.

I'll be happy for him to get game time for his match fitness, but I'm a bit worried about that as well.

I think Ross has a game plan that doesn't really allow for flair players.

[davhibby]

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I'll be happy for him to get game time for his match fitness, but I'm a bit worried about that as well.

I think Ross has a game plan that doesn't really allow for flair players.

Well someone better tell that to Jack Ross as he seemed to have space in the team for Allan before his illness

[Hibbyradge]

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As I’ve said I wouldn’t be starting him, but he’s an option to come off the bench. If you think he’s so far off it he would be a total liability coming on for the last 20 or so minutes then fair enough. I don’t.

I don't think he'd be a total liability, but I wouldn't want to keep a player on the bench who was only able to give me 80% for quarter of an hour or so, unless I had no other options.

What if someone gets injured early in the match?

[jeffers]

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I don't think he'd be a total liability, but I wouldn't want to keep a player on the bench who was only able to give me 80% for quarter of an hour or so, unless I had no other options.

What if someone gets injured early in the match?

He’s been training for long enough now to suggest he’s fully fit, his interview said the same, so no reason why he can’t give 100% for 15-20 minutes. Match fitness is a different matter obviously. Plus we have more scope for subs than we had in previous seasons.

I agree with Keith’s post above, not convinced Ross has a game plan that fits flair players like Scott Allan. Also feel he’d rather hold onto a point than take a risk of bringing on a player to win a game. Though I appreciate some folk will be happy with that approach.

[Allez Hibs]

This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

[Allez Hibs]

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Hes not at the level required to make an impact for us in Top6 matches whats so hard to understand about that??
The games he has come on in St J at Hampden and Motherwell at home he's made very little impact and its not fair on him playing a bit part when he's trying to get his fitness levels back up...I dont get why this isn't seen as anything other than a good move for all concerned, tho I do agree id have preferred him to go to Raith or Pars rather than the Jambo love affair of ICT

Nonsense.

[04Sauzee]

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This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

Some fans not all fans

[flash]

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This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

Anything the manager does annoys some people.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Some fans not all fans

Correct. Normally a fan(atic) would support the team. Strange one this.

[Northernhibee]

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This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

Ooh, a negative and derisory post. Unlike you.

[cabbageandribs1875]

are their any quotes from Scott Allan

[Since452]

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This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

He's not our best player right now though. Far from it. This isn't the Scott Allan of old. He's been through a life changing ordeal. He asked for the move because he knows he can't deliver at this level.

[jeffers]

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Correct. Normally a fan(atic) would support the team. Strange one this.

Wanting to keep one of, if not the, most talented players isn’t supporting the team ?

[Heisenberg]

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This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

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Nonsense.

Sums it up.

[Northernhibee]

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Wanting to keep one of, if not the, most talented players isn’t supporting the team ?

He’s not one of our best players at this moment in time, due to a huge lack of match fitness he’s miles down the pecking order to play. This loan will resolve that issue.

[B.H.F.C]

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He's not our best player right now though. Far from it. This isn't the Scott Allan of old. He's been through a life changing ordeal. He asked for the move because he knows he can't deliver at this level.

Unless I hear Scott Allan say that, I don’t believe it for a minute.

He asked for the move because he wanted to play, simple as that. We aren’t giving him games, the only option open to him his a loan to a lower league team at the moment.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Wanting to keep one of, if not the, most talented players isn’t supporting the team ?

We are keeping him?

Putting an unfit player in the team and not supporting him through recovery from a serious illness wouldn’t be a good thing though. Doubting the manager and inferring he’s lying or the club is lying is a strange thing for a fanatic to do based on no evidence.

[Heckys Wheel]

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are their any quotes from Scott Allan

Not seen any but I could take a guess at “Buzzing”. “Can’t wait to get started”. 😂

[MWHIBBIES]

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I can't think of it happening to a player of his level. Happy to be proven wrong if you know otherwise

Stokes, Ambrose, Commons to Hibs?

[Allez Hibs]

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Ooh, a negative and derisory post. Unlike you.

Not sure how questioning a decision to let our best player go on loan at a critical point in the season is negative and derisory.

It makes no sense that we won't have our best player available in upcoming big games and the Scottish Cup.

[Northernhibee]

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Not seen any but I could take a guess at “Buzzing”. “Can’t wait to get started”. 😂

“Train ticket to Inverness please”

[Northernhibee]

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Not sure how questioning a decision to let our best player go on loan at a critical point in the season is negative and derisory.

It makes no sense that we won't have our best player available in upcoming big games and the Scottish Cup.

Right now he’s not our best player. He’s miles short of match fitness as he’s not played in months.

It’s something a six year old could understand, unless they were desperate for attention and a whine.

[Greenio]

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Can you think of any other players, at any level, who developed a heart condition?

Not sure why that's relevant in regards to my point about not knowing an occasion when a player if his age and experience goes away to another team to get back into another one

[Since452]

You'd think we'd just loaned Martin Boyle out and not a player who almost had to retire through a medical condition and who has not long returned to the squad. It wasn't a torn hamstring he had. Very sensible decision by Scott Allan and the club.

[Greenio]

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Is that not because normally there are plenty of reserve/development games where a player in Allan’s situation would have spent a while building up game time in those matches before he’d be considered ready for the first team? We’ve not been able to do that.

Good point. I don't know

[green day]

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This is a baffling and incompetent decision. We are letting our best player (arguably one of the best creative midfielders in Scotland) go on loan at the most critical point of the season with the Scottish Cup on the horizon too. Decisions like this just annoy the fans.

If its baffling you, read the statement -

Manager Jack Ross said, "We would have preferred to have kept Scott in the group but he expressed a strong desire to go out on loan. Currently, and understandably given the challenges he has faced during the past year he doesn’t feel fit enough to make the impact that his abilities should in the top part of the Premiership. Therefore Scott feels that strengthening his fitness and continuing his recovery in the Championship is a sensible option. We feel that it was appropriate to continue to support Scott in his recovery by sanctioning the loan move."

Sounds like a competent decision with the players best interests at the heart of it..............

[jeffers]

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We are keeping him?

Putting an unfit player in the team and not supporting him through recovery from a serious illness wouldn’t be a good thing though. Doubting the manager and inferring he’s lying or the club is lying is a strange thing for a fanatic to do based on no evidence.

Not for the remainder of this season we are not.

So are Inverness not going to play him then ?

All managers lie, it wouldn’t be the first time Ross has. He likes to keep players onside, I get it, but I don’t believe him when he said he wanted to keep him as part of the group. He said the same about Mallan, he said he didn’t want to sell Shaw.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Right now he’s not our best player. He’s miles short of match fitness as he’s not played in months.

It’s something a six year old could understand, unless they were desperate for attention and a whine.

my 10 year old understands it.