What's the chances of fans going back in September?

[AugustaHibs]

Once everyone has been vaccinated the public pressure will be far too great and the govs will crumble

[Stairway 2 7]

20,000 confirmed for fa Cup final in May , 10,000 per game from 17th of May for league games and outside concerts in England. The hope is full crowds by August, that is downsouth obviously

[PatHead]

Be interesting to see what happens with the Festival this year. If people start coming from all over the place to Edinburgh to sit in wee rooms with dozens of other people surely we will be safe to sit outside?

[ancient hibee]

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Be interesting to see what happens with the Festival this year. If people start coming from all over the place to Edinburgh to sit in wee rooms with dozens of other people surely we will be safe to sit outside?

With the complete shambles European countries are making of their vaccination roll outs it could well be that by summer there will be a closedown on a lot of international travel with continued quarantine particularly if the virus is under control here.

[The dalmeny]

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6498670[/URL]]With the complete shambles European countries are making of their vaccination roll outs it could well be that by summer there will be a closedown on a lot of international travel with continued quarantine particularly if the virus is under control here.

just need to bear in mind it’s uk government that controls borders

[04Sauzee]

Sounding positive although no promises which is only to be expected

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says it's looking more hopeful that fans will be able to attend their home matches during this summer's European Championships. https://t.co/vq2uetBPtI

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/stat...293523979?s=19

[Sir David Gray]

Social distancing could last for several years, according to the head of immunisation at Public Health England.

If it does then that would damage any hopes of full stadia anytime soon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56475807

[SteveHFC]

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Social distancing could last for several years, according to the head of immunisation at Public Health England.

If it does then that would damage any hopes of full stadia anytime soon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56475807

Would not be expecting anyone to follow those rules if so. Life has to get back to normal at some point.

[oldbutdim]

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Would not be expecting anyone to follow those rules if so. Life has to get back to normal at some point.

Wouldn’t bother me too much.
May be an age thing. My folks are long gone.

Are your ma and da still kicking about?
Would normality counting your folks as collateral damage be O K with you?

[G15 Hibs]

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Would not be expecting anyone to follow those rules if so. Life has to get back to normal at some point.

In the context of this thread though, clubs wouldn't be allowed to return to pre-March 2020 levels of attendance if social distancing restrictions remain in place. They wouldn't really have a choice but to follow the rules.

[James Stephen]

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In the context of this thread though, clubs wouldn't be allowed to return to pre-March 2020 levels of attendance if social distancing restrictions remain in place. They wouldn't really have a choice but to follow the rules.

The fact that few Scottish clubs fill their grounds could become a big plus - most clubs could have an average crowd in a socially distanced way.

Might mean long ban on away supports though.

[AugustaHibs]

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Wouldn’t bother me too much.
May be an age thing. My folks are long gone.

Are your ma and da still kicking about?
Would normality counting your folks as collateral damage be O K with you?

And what about the people that die from issues caused from social isolation and other things that prolonged restrictions would bring, would you be O K with that?

[Sir David Gray]

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Would not be expecting anyone to follow those rules if so. Life has to get back to normal at some point.

Clubs wouldn't have any option but to follow such rules though.

If the rule was that stadia could not be at any more than 60% capacity, Hibs couldn't just ignore that and then go on to sell 20,000 tickets for a derby.

[The dalmeny]

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6503191[/URL]]Wouldn’t bother me too much.
May be an age thing. My folks are long gone.

Are your ma and da still kicking about?
Would normality counting your folks as collateral damage be O K with you?

I don’t go to many games so I wouldnt be going to see my mum for a couple of weeks after any game I went to. It’s all about assessing risk

[davhibby]

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Wouldn’t bother me too much.
May be an age thing. My folks are long gone.

Are your ma and da still kicking about?
Would normality counting your folks as collateral damage be O K with you?

Once everyone has had the vaccine nobody will be dying, as it is we’ll be into single figures of weekly deaths in Scotland by next month. The idea that there won’t be full crowds allowed after the summer is crazy. Outdoor transmission is lower anyway then once you factor in that probably about 90% of the crowd will be vaccinated then there’s very little risk.

Whether that would be the case with European games and Internationals etc is a different story but domestically there will be no reason to not have full crowds by early next season

[Moulin Yarns]

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Once everyone has had the vaccine nobody will be dying, as it is we’ll be into single figures of weekly deaths in Scotland by next month. The idea that there won’t be full crowds allowed after the summer is crazy. Outdoor transmission is lower anyway then once you factor in that probably about 90% of the crowd will be vaccinated then there’s very little risk.

Whether that would be the case with European games and Internationals etc is a different story but domestically there will be no reason to not have full crowds by early next season

Unless the law still remains about social distance?

[AugustaHibs]

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Wouldn’t bother me too much.
May be an age thing. My folks are long gone.

Are your ma and da still kicking about?
Would normality counting your folks as collateral damage be O K with you?

Vaccination shows that it stops almost 100% of hospitalisations, in all seriousness what do you want? We have to accept that some people die from covid every year the same as that happens with the flu. Eventually vaccines and treatments will kick its arse to the point the death rate is parallel to the seasonal flu.

[hibbysam]

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Vaccination shows that it stops almost 100% of hospitalisations, in all seriousness what do you want? We have to accept that some people die from covid every year the same as that happens with the flu. Eventually vaccines and treatments will kick its arse to the point the death rate is parallel to the seasonal flu.

Exactly. At some point we will all die, do we really want to be walking on eggshells hiding away for what we have left? The Government both sides of the border have made a complete arse of the whole process from early decisions, to PPE, to coming out of lockdowns, finally onto vaccine rollouts.

I’ve accepted the last year has been required but once the vaccine is in full swing there’s absolutely no reason for not being back to normal. You can’t on one hand tell us how efficient the vaccine is, and in the other hand tell us masks and distancing is still required.

[AugustaHibs]

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Exactly. At some point we will all die, do we really want to be walking on eggshells hiding away for what we have left? The Government both sides of the border have made a complete arse of the whole process from early decisions, to PPE, to coming out of lockdowns, finally onto vaccine rollouts.

I’ve accepted the last year has been required but once the vaccine is in full swing there’s absolutely no reason for not being back to normal. You can’t on one hand tell us how efficient the vaccine is, and in the other hand tell us masks and distancing is still required.

Exactly, if the ‘Oxford’ vaccine is all that you say it is then why not let it prove itself in a live study across the U.K.

[Eyrie]

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Exactly. At some point we will all die, do we really want to be walking on eggshells hiding away for what we have left? The Government both sides of the border have made a complete arse of the whole process from early decisions, to PPE, to coming out of lockdowns, finally onto vaccine rollouts.

I’ve accepted the last year has been required but once the vaccine is in full swing there’s absolutely no reason for not being back to normal. You can’t on one hand tell us how efficient the vaccine is, and in the other hand tell us masks and distancing is still required.

At some point we all die but some of us are in less of a hurry to get there.

No vaccine is 100% effective, so there is still a clear benefit to masks and distancing.

[Bishop Hibee]

If crowds can’t return to the football in August then clubs will go bust. How many Hibs fans will fork out £420 for a ST with the possibility of seeing every second home game live at best at ER?

[AugustaHibs]

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At some point we all die but some of us are in less of a hurry to get there.

No vaccine is 100% effective, so there is still a clear benefit to masks and distancing.

Do you think covid is going to be eradicated? Serious question

[bigwheel]

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Do you think covid is going to be eradicated? Serious question

No. I don’t..I think it will be like a serious flu, and will come back in waves continuously...and likely we will all need annual vaccinations, which at times will be less effective than others...as it mutates.


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[Ronniekirk]

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Do you think covid is going to be eradicated? Serious question

Not in the immediate future The leaflet people I know got after getting vaccine still says it gives protection for three months
Does
anyone know once you have had second dose does that change or is it just another three months then you will get the top up one to combat variants in the autumn
Then what ? The Johnson snd Johnson one is a single jab only but it’s yet to be approved But will it give more than three months protection ?





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[hibbysam]

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At some point we all die but some of us are in less of a hurry to get there.

No vaccine is 100% effective, so there is still a clear benefit to masks and distancing.

You’ve no idea what time you have. For the majority there is no risk, there wasn’t before and there’s even less so now after a vaccine. It’s reducing hospital admissions and deaths by huge amounts, would make absolutely no sense to have restrictions for something that will barely affect any of our population.

[flash]

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Exactly, if the ‘Oxford’ vaccine is all that you say it is then why not let it prove itself in a live study across the U.K.

To be fair it has just done exactly that in America. 32,000 people involved with fantastic results.

[Sir David Gray]

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Not in the immediate future The leaflet people I know got after getting vaccine still says it gives protection for three months
Does
anyone know once you have had second dose does that change or is it just another three months then you will get the top up one to combat variants in the autumn
Then what ? The Johnson snd Johnson one is a single jab only but it’s yet to be approved But will it give more than three months protection ?





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No one knows how long you are protected post-vaccination, it's one of the reasons why social distancing is remaining for a while yet and unlimited football crowds are unlikely any time soon.

We are likely to need vaccinated at least every year.

[oldbutdim]

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And what about the people that die from issues caused from social isolation and other things that prolonged restrictions would bring, would you be O K with that?

I think the suggestion was that social distancing and mask wearing may have to continue for a few years.
As an antisocial bugger who gets irritated when folk invade my space, or sit at the table right next to me and my missus in an otherwise empty restaurant, I’m fine with that.
I don’t think such measures would adversely affect mental health.

I’m far less acceptable of folk being forced into isolation from all contact with friends and family.

[The dalmeny]

SRU have put out renewals for season pass and debentures for Murrayfield in last couple of days

[AugustaHibs]

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I think the suggestion was that social distancing and mask wearing may have to continue for a few years.
As an antisocial bugger who gets irritated when folk invade my space, or sit at the table right next to me and my missus in an otherwise empty restaurant, I’m fine with that.
I don’t think such measures would adversely affect mental health.

I’m far less acceptable of folk being forced into isolation from all contact with friends and family.

Okay so social distancing etc might not affect you but it definitely affects a large number of people..