Scottish Independence

***Ozyhibby*** · 26-02-2021 07:28 AM

I’m not offended by any of these names and try not to use them. They’re a bit silly. They say more about the people who use them IMO. Each to their own though, so crack on as far as I’m concerned.

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***StevieC*** · 26-02-2021 08:04 AM

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Why would they need to stop the SNP to prevent another indyref if Johnson is going to refuse it anyway?

Either they don't trust Boris or they've no other policies to fill up an A4 sized leaflet?

***Future17*** · 26-02-2021 11:33 AM

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I’m not offended by any of these names and try not to use them. They’re a bit silly. They say more about the people who use them IMO. Each to their own though, so crack on as far as I’m concerned.

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That's kinda where I am with this although, to be more accurate, I think the use of terms like "Yoon" and "Snazi" in a post makes me less likely to read it all and certainly less likely to give it the same consideration as I would absent those terms. It's playground stuff to me.

**Renfrew_Hibby** · 26-02-2021 12:02 PM

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That's kinda where I am with this although, to be more accurate, I think the use of terms like "Yoon" and "Snazi" in a post makes me less likely to read it all and certainly less likely to give it the same consideration as I would absent those terms. It's playground stuff to me.

Well said, very childish and to the point that I actively scroll past certain posters. They dont merit my consideration.

***One Day Soon*** · 26-02-2021 01:39 PM

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That's kinda where I am with this although, to be more accurate, I think the use of terms like "Yoon" and "Snazi" in a post makes me less likely to read it all and certainly less likely to give it the same consideration as I would absent those terms. It's playground stuff to me.

How about we just agree to use the terms Unionist and Nationalist? Neither is pejorative, both are accurate and both allow posters not to be scrolled past.

**JeMeSouviens** · 26-02-2021 01:43 PM

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How about we just agree to use the terms Unionist and Nationalist? Neither is pejorative, both are accurate and both allow posters not to be scrolled past.

We'd have to agree on definitions first. I am a nationalist in that I think Scotland should be a country. I'm not a nationalist in the sense that I think the Scottish nation or its people are better than any other nation or its people.

Mind you, I don't really care if I get called an actual Nazi, so whatevs really.

***One Day Soon*** · 26-02-2021 02:06 PM

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We'd have to agree on definitions first. I am a nationalist in that I think Scotland should be a country. I'm not a nationalist in the sense that I think the Scottish nation or its people are better than any other nation or its people.

Mind you, I don't really care if I get called an actual Nazi, so whatevs really.

I'm changing my mind, Unionist is too pejorative and has too many negative connotations. I'm politically self-IDing as pro-UK.

**JeMeSouviens** · 26-02-2021 02:12 PM

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I'm changing my mind, Unionist is too pejorative and has too many negative connotations. I'm politically self-IDing as pro-UK.

Does that rhyme with dook or howk?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 26-02-2021 05:18 PM

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Does that rhyme with dook or howk?

Rhymes with stick 😆

***Moulin Yarns*** · 27-02-2021 10:48 AM

An independent Scotland can

🌊 Lead Europe in renewable energy
☮️Lead nuclear disarmament by leaving NATO
✊🏿 Lead on equality and workers' rights

Vote for the Scotland you want. Vote Green #GreenYes https://t.co/Ue70EHkaaN

I wonder what the derogatory term will be for someone who supports them?

***One Day Soon*** · 27-02-2021 10:59 AM

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Rhymes with stick 😆

As opposed to something that rhymes with twat?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 27-02-2021 11:05 AM

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As opposed to something that rhymes with twat?

😆

Like West Side Story. The pricks and the twats.
Face off against each other in the Queens Park with pirouettes and grands jetes.

***Just Alf*** · 27-02-2021 12:29 PM

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An independent Scotland can

Lead Europe in renewable energy

Lead nuclear disarmament by leaving NATO

Lead on equality and workers' rights

Vote for the Scotland you want. Vote Green #GreenYes https://t.co/Ue70EHkaaN

I wonder what the derogatory term will be for someone who supports them?

You don't need to have nuclear weapons to be in NATO, not sure that's a vote winner?

Fair enough to have removal of the weapons on the ticket but leaving NATO?

(They'll still be my number 2 at voting time)

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***One Day Soon*** · 27-02-2021 01:25 PM

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😆

Like West Side Story. The pricks and the twats.
Face off against each other in the Queens Park with pirouettes and grands jetes.

I think we might be on to something here.

***Ozyhibby*** · 27-02-2021 06:21 PM

Policing looking good for the SNP in May’s elections.

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**Glory Lurker** · 27-02-2021 07:16 PM

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Policing looking good for the SNP in May’s elections.

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No chance. New Statesman bigging it up to make anything less a failure. BUT SNP 70 Greens 10? Oh, okay then :-)

***lapsedhibee*** · 28-02-2021 08:02 AM

Rawnsley in The Observer today:

If anything, the risks that come with one-party hegemony are amplified in a country with a population similar in size to that of Yorkshire and where everyone in public life knows everyone else.

I think this means that Scotland is too wee to properly govern itself. Oh well.

***Jones28*** · 28-02-2021 08:08 AM

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Rawnsley in The Observer today:

If anything, the risks that come with one-party hegemony are amplified in a country with a population similar in size to that of Yorkshire and where everyone in public life knows everyone else.

I think this means that Scotland is too wee to properly govern itself. Oh well.

Too wee and too parochial.

**degenerated** · 28-02-2021 08:50 AM

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Rawnsley in The Observer today:

If anything, the risks that come with one-party hegemony are amplified in a country with a population similar in size to that of Yorkshire and where everyone in public life knows everyone else.

I think this means that Scotland is too wee to properly govern itself. Oh well.

Does that mean we need to make it bigger, Newcastle and Carlisle would be a start

***Ozyhibby*** · 28-02-2021 09:06 AM

First poll at 50-50 for a long time. It is survation though which is not that yes friendly a pollster.

https://t.co/fvaqVHTzks

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**Mr Grieves** · 28-02-2021 09:33 AM

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First poll at 50-50 for a long time. It is survation though which is not that yes friendly a pollster.

https://t.co/fvaqVHTzks

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The last survation poll had Yes 45 No 43 undecided 12. This one is Yes 43 No 44 undecided 13, its all within margin of error so I think they're pushing it by claiming it's a bombshell survey.

***Smartie*** · 28-02-2021 09:56 AM

Would anyone expect anything different at this stage?

Johnson isn’t as offensive or the visibly incompetent as he has been over the past year. The SNP are going through a civil war of sorts.

This was always going to happen, the question was going to be about how much it would swing the other way.

**~~ronaldo7~~** · 28-02-2021 10:36 AM

John McTernan, remember him...Tony's pal. Cosying up with Katie Perrior former advisor to Theresa, Boris, and David Davis. She seems to be advocating going to war with the Scots. The rhetoric is fairly ramping up in London.

https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/s...83186953895937

***StevieC*** · 28-02-2021 11:10 AM

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John McTernan, remember him...Tony's pal. Cosying up with Katie Perrior former advisor to Theresa, Boris, and David Davis. She seems to be advocating going to war with the Scots. The rhetoric is fairly ramping up in London.

https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/s...83186953895937

I think that plastering everything with a union flag is an excellent idea. They should also force us to put it on the national team strips as well, just to fully cement the union. That’ll put these rebellious nats in their place.

**degenerated** · 28-02-2021 12:08 PM

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I think that plastering everything with a union flag is an excellent idea. They should also force us to put it on the national team strips as well, just to fully cement the union. That’ll put these rebellious nats in their place.

Anything mcternan suggests is worth them running with. The guy has made a career out of being wrong about everything.

***Kato*** · 28-02-2021 12:22 PM

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I think that plastering everything with a union flag is an excellent idea. They should also force us to put it on the national team strips as well, just to fully cement the union. That’ll put these rebellious nats in their place.

Force kids in school to learn the words to The Sash. That'll bring us back into line.

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**Skol** · 28-02-2021 12:26 PM

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Force kids in school to learn the words to The Sash. That'll bring us back into line.

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That's really quite a poor comment putting people who dont agree with Independence into quite a narrow group.

***Kato*** · 28-02-2021 12:29 PM

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That's really quite a poor comment putting people who dont agree with Independence into quite a narrow group.

It's a joke bud, I'm not putting people anywhere but am ripping the pee out of the idea that plastering Scotland with the UJ would turn things around for the Union.

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