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    Ross has taken some heavy criticism at times this season, but 12 points clear of fifth with 9 games to go is some going.
    To be honest, I’m not that impressed that he’s clear off fifth given the quality of the rest. I never thought fourth was in danger and we have a strong squad. I do think he deserve credit for having pretty comfortable advantage in third though, I didn’t think that’s be the case a few weeks back.

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    To be honest, I’m not that impressed that he’s clear off fifth given the quality of the rest. I never thought fourth was in danger and we have a strong squad. I do think he deserve credit for having pretty comfortable advantage in third though, I didn’t think that’s be the case a few weeks back.
    After that abject LC Semi, would have expected Hibs to struggle, but Ross and the players have managed to regroup and go again. 4 straight wins is excellent form, with a huge prize at the end if they can push on to 3rd place. The way we're going, we're forcing Aberdeen to win every game - love it, given the way they sat in the wings and bought up many of our top targets.

    3rd place finish would look good on Jack Ross' CV.

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    If Man City win the Carabao Cup then it would go to 6th place. If the FA Cup winners finish in the top 6 then it would go to 7th place.
    Anyone for a trip to Anfield? 😉

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    Aberdeen can now take a maximum of 24 points ( - 4 point gap at present ) means 20 points from 9 games takes 3rd for Hibs. That’s before you take into account Aberdeen’s 3 old firm games and any other dropped points :)

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    I think three more wins will do it for us. If we win three of our remaining nine games Aberdeen need to win five of their remaining eight to overtake us, and three of those eight are against Celtic and Rangers.

    Our most winnable games are this side of the split and we're playing ok at the moment so we've a great chance to wrap this up early in the next few weeks if we can maintain our current form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    To be honest, I’m not that impressed that he’s clear off fifth given the quality of the rest. I never thought fourth was in danger and we have a strong squad. I do think he deserve credit for having pretty comfortable advantage in third though, I didn’t think that’s be the case a few weeks back.
    There's a compliment in there somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    To be honest, I’m not that impressed that he’s clear off fifth given the quality of the rest. I never thought fourth was in danger and we have a strong squad. I do think he deserve credit for having pretty comfortable advantage in third though, I didn’t think that’s be the case a few weeks back.
    In the 20 years or so of the current league system I doubt we've ever had top four as good as wrapped up this early. Even in our better seasons we have always had a tendancy to throw away points against teams we should be beating.

    We're playing well this season but it's easy to forget that for much of the last 20 years we've been poor, so I think Ross deserves a lot of credit for delivering the relative consistency we have shown in the league this season.

  10. #249
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    In the 20 years or so of the current league system I doubt we've ever had top four as good as wrapped up this early. Even in our better seasons we have always had a tendancy to throw away points against teams we should be beating.

    We're playing well this season but it's easy to forget that for much of the last 20 years we've been poor, so I think Ross deserves a lot of credit for delivering the relative consistency we have shown in the league this season.
    I know how we’ve done historically comes up quite a bit but I think you can only really judge on what we’ve seen this season. I think we’ve got an advantage over most of the league this year with the way we’ve invested in the team in a way that others haven’t or can’t. It’s not that he doesn’t deserve any credit for getting top four secured early doors, I just think it’s the minimum requirement this year. Going on to get third moves it from a decent season to a good season for me. And it also gets him some credit back, from me at least, that he lost with the cup disappointments.

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    If we win our game in hand it's going to be difficult for Aberdeen. They'll need three more wins than us given our much better goal difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    I know how we’ve done historically comes up quite a bit but I think you can only really judge on what we’ve seen this season. I think we’ve got an advantage over most of the league this year with the way we’ve invested in the team in a way that others haven’t or can’t. It’s not that he doesn’t deserve any credit for getting top four secured early doors, I just think it’s the minimum requirement this year. Going on to get third moves it from a decent season to a good season for me. And it also gets him some credit back, from me at least, that he lost with the cup disappointments.
    How often do we ever hit our minimum target, yet when we do reach our target and at the moment bettering it, we have grudging compliments like yours.

    Unless we are struggling big time, so you and others can really go to town on the team, it must be very boring for you supporting Hibs.

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    Very close to third now. It hasn't been pretty at times but we have done a great job picking up 3 points in the games we should be winning. There are also flashes in games where we move the ball really well which is hopefully a glimpse of where we are headed. Two more wins will be enough for third imo and I think we could get them in the next couple of fixtures

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    IF we win our game in hand, Aberdeen will likely need to win 3 more games than we do over the 8 remaining games.

    Not just, win 3 of the remaining 8, which would prove difficult considering post split fixtures, but win 3 more than us.

    The game in hand is massive.

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    How often do we ever hit our minimum target, yet when we do reach our target and at the moment bettering it, we have grudging compliments like yours.

    Unless we are struggling big time, so you and others can really go to town on the team, it must be very boring for you supporting Hibs.
    I’ve just said finishing third would be a good season. It’s not a grudging compliment, it’s giving credit where I think it’s due.

    Your last sentence is utter nonsense, certainly in terms of my thinking towards supporting Hibs. I have no desire to simply moan about how we’re doing, I’d much rather get some enjoyment out of watching us for the money I spend to do so.

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    Aberdeen can now take a maximum of 24 points ( - 4 point gap at present ) means 20 points from 9 games takes 3rd for Hibs. That’s before you take into account Aberdeen’s 3 old firm games and any other dropped points :)
    See my post 238, technically we need 21 points.

    if Aberdeen win all their games they would be on 72 points, if we get 20 points we would also be on 72 points, so you have to say that for absolutes we need 21 points maximum.

    Goal difference not taken into account of course.

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    IF we win our game in hand, Aberdeen will likely need to win 3 more games than we do over the 8 remaining games.

    Not just, win 3 of the remaining 8, which would prove difficult considering post split fixtures, but win 3 more than us.

    The game in hand is massive.
    We have 2 games before that game in hand. Next week is far more important than the game in hand considering Aberdeen are at Celtic park. Two results go our way next weekend then it’s 3 more wins than us from just 7 games for the sheep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    I know how we’ve done historically comes up quite a bit but I think you can only really judge on what we’ve seen this season. I think we’ve got an advantage over most of the league this year with the way we’ve invested in the team in a way that others haven’t or can’t. It’s not that he doesn’t deserve any credit for getting top four secured early doors, I just think it’s the minimum requirement this year. Going on to get third moves it from a decent season to a good season for me. And it also gets him some credit back, from me at least, that he lost with the cup disappointments.
    That's where I am at the moment too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    I know how we’ve done historically comes up quite a bit but I think you can only really judge on what we’ve seen this season. I think we’ve got an advantage over most of the league this year with the way we’ve invested in the team in a way that others haven’t or can’t. It’s not that he doesn’t deserve any credit for getting top four secured early doors, I just think it’s the minimum requirement this year. Going on to get third moves it from a decent season to a good season for me. And it also gets him some credit back, from me at least, that he lost with the cup disappointments.
    I’d say third is an absolutely magnificent season. The European payoff for Third Place has never been higher in any of our lifetimes and we’ve only finished there once in what, two decades? Third would be absolutely huge and JR would deserve massive credit. All of the bedwetters wanting him gone at Christmas/January hopefully don’t have the gall to show up to our European games.

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    I think it's just from the PC.

    Though I have a really crap mobile, so it's hard to tell if it works on a decent one.
    nope it works on my IPhone (don’t seem to have seen it on previous models - I have an Iphone11
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    I still think it would have been a better idea to start with a countdown to fourth place thread.

    I hate taking stuff like this for granted.

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    Difficult to criticize Ross for finishing 3rd as that slot has been few and far between for us. We should be challenging for it (with A’deen and Hearts) every single season. So well done to him. Even with A’deen imploding financially and Hearts relegated, the games don’t win themselves.

    But those cup semi defeats -against vastly inferior sides who just wanted it more- will continue to leave a bad taste until he shows he can build a hungry outfit as well as a consistent one.

    Like it or not, while the status of the club my be defined by league standing and European fixtures, any glory we are likely to enjoy will come from domestic cup tournaments. Our record here has to improve.

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    Difficult to criticize Ross for finishing 3rd as that slot has been few and far between for us. We should be challenging for it (with A’deen and Hearts) every single season. So well done to him. Even with A’deen imploding financially and Hearts relegated, the games don’t win themselves.

    But those cup semi defeats -against vastly inferior sides who just wanted it more- will continue to leave a bad taste until he shows he can build a hungry outfit as well as a consistent one.

    Like it or not, while the status of the club my be defined by league standing and European fixtures, any glory we are likely to enjoy will come from domestic cup tournaments. Our record here has to improve.
    ‘Vastly inferior’ - St Johnstone have lost twice in months, both against the old firm. Without going over old ground, we were favourites and should’ve won, but let’s not pretend it was Queens Park or Stenhousemuir we were playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spaceman View Post
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    I’d say third is an absolutely magnificent season. The European payoff for Third Place has never been higher in any of our lifetimes and we’ve only finished there once in what, two decades? Third would be absolutely huge and JR would deserve massive credit. All of the bedwetters wanting him gone at Christmas/January hopefully don’t have the gall to show up to our European games.
    100% agree. Given the prize of European football till Xmas that is now highly likely to come with 3rd makes it huge. In my lifetime (I'm 40) I've never seen a season where we've had more than a few games in Europe, mostly against poor opposition. To get into the group stage of European competition is for me a really exciting prospect. That's purely from a footballing side of things. The financial rewards that come with it will also go a long way to balancing the books after what has been a difficult financial period for all clubs in Scotland.
    Yes we've underperformed in a couple of semi finals but I can't remember ever seeing a Hibs team as resilient as this one. Many of the narrow 1-0's and 2-1's would've been draws in previous years.
    Jack Ross has done a fantastic job as far as I'm concerned.

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    Without going over old ground, third place and reaching a semi final would, in virtually every other season i have watched Hibs (Championship seasons aside), have been considered a great season.

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    Finishing third would obviously be massive.

    I know that guarantees (probably, Scottish Cup pending) us group stages of the new Europa Conference League, which is good, but it's one play off win away from Europa League group stages! Which is massive!

    Really think we'll finish third, said so a month or so ago too. And being someone who's criticised Ross in the past, he deserves huge credit if we do finish third.

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    European group stage football, especially the Europa League would benefit the club and Ron's plans to overhaul the commercial side of the club massively. Could be a game changer.

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    See my post 238, technically we need 21 points.

    if Aberdeen win all their games they would be on 72 points, if we get 20 points we would also be on 72 points, so you have to say that for absolutes we need 21 points maximum.

    Goal difference not taken into account of course.
    If we can beat Aberdeen at Pittodrie it would be a massive step.

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    Next weekend is huge. You have to think they won’t get a win at park head so if we manage to beat Motherwell that’s 7 points with a game in hand against the bottom of the league.
    Doesn’t matter what Aberdeen do after that, they ain’t catching us if we have a 10 point lead with 7 games to go each.

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    Third place has become a real possibility as Aberdeen for me have become weaker this season due to the loss of McKenna and Cosgrove in particular. Hibs have been boosted by the signings of Cadden and Irvine and the excellent recent form of McGregor and Boyle. The whole team has been given a boost.

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