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    Memorable only for the Speaker being unable to pronounce Lochaber. How long has he been in the job now, introducing Blackford every week?
    To be fair, he did pull up Boris on the use of Scottish “Nationalist” Party. It took him long enough though.
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    Tory Andrew Bowie being ripped to shreds here by George Monbiot. Tory elites and

    https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/s...67075641167880

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    Tory Andrew Bowie being ripped to shreds here by George Monbiot. Tory elites and

    https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/s...67075641167880


    To George Monbiot...



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    Tory Andrew Bowie being ripped to shreds here by George Monbiot. Tory elites and

    https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/s...67075641167880

    "I'm not even going to bother responding to that" = I know I just got ripped up for arse paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    To George Monbiot...


    Im a big fan of his, especially on the environment. If he had his way, lynx wolves and aurochs would be wandering about the Scottish Highlands, all the sheep farms would be turned into rewilding projects. Would be a lot more fun but not a popular view with the farming community (I wonder if the NFU, a lobbying arm for the UKs large landowners, are anything to do with Monbiot not being allowed on BBC question time for 20 years, a longer drought than Nick Griffin, Katie Hopkins, disgraced jailbird Johnathan Aitken and all those rentagob trolls of the extreme right the BBC seem to be happy to give airtime to?

    Monbiot isn’t even really of ‘the left’ ideologically, he just challenges positions of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Im a big fan of his, especially on the environment. If he had his way, lynx wolves and aurochs would be wandering about the Scottish Highlands, all the sheep farms would be turned into rewilding projects. Would be a lot more fun but not a popular view with the farming community (I wonder if the NFU, a lobbying arm for the UKs large landowners, are anything to do with Monbiot not being allowed on BBC question time for 20 years, a longer drought than Nick Griffin, Katie Hopkins, disgraced jailbird Johnathan Aitken and all those rentagob trolls of the extreme right the BBC seem to be happy to give airtime to?

    Monbiot isn’t even really of ‘the left’ ideologically, he just challenges positions of power.

    He's given much greater profile to rewilding than it would otherwise have had. Politically he's literally been all over the place as you say. Can't forgive him for advocating voting for the Lib-Dems in 2010, one of a number of factors which opened the door to Cameron as PM and subsequently the Brexit referendum.

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    He's given much greater profile to rewilding than it would otherwise have had. Politically he's literally been all over the place as you say. Can't forgive him for advocating voting for the Lib-Dems in 2010, one of a number of factors which opened the door to Cameron as PM and subsequently the Brexit referendum.

    Was he behind the Guardian temporarily switching to support the Lib-Dems?





    I remember them doing that at the time and found it a bit strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Was he behind the Guardian temporarily switching to support the Lib-Dems?





    I remember them doing that at the time and found it a bit strange.

    Not sure he was 'behind' that but he certainly publicly supported voting for the Lib-Dems. Reading the piece he put his name to in the guardian along with others is eye-popping when you consider the actual consequences of putting those charlatans into government. Two paras leap out for me:


    "The MPs that assemble in Westminster next month could usher in one of the great reforming parliaments in British history, one to rank in the history books alongside 1831-32, 1865-67 or 1911-1914. The next parliament could see cherished progressive liberal aspirations realised: a proportional electoral system; wider and better-defended civil liberties; a new, internationalist approach to foreign affairs and immigration; reform of the tax system to share wealth and curb carbon emissions; and an assault on the vested interests of the financial sector."

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    "The Liberal Democrats are today's change-makers. They have already changed the election; next they could drive fundamental change in our political and economic landscape."

    **** me some people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near political judgement.




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    Im a big fan of his, especially on the environment. If he had his way, lynx wolves and aurochs would be wandering about the Scottish Highlands, all the sheep farms would be turned into rewilding projects. Would be a lot more fun but not a popular view with the farming community (I wonder if the NFU, a lobbying arm for the UKs large landowners, are anything to do with Monbiot not being allowed on BBC question time for 20 years, a longer drought than Nick Griffin, Katie Hopkins, disgraced jailbird Johnathan Aitken and all those rentagob trolls of the extreme right the BBC seem to be happy to give airtime to?

    Monbiot isn’t even really of ‘the left’ ideologically, he just challenges positions of power.
    Give them the right subsidies and they'll be rewilding eco-warriors before you can say sustainable tweeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Im a big fan of his, especially on the environment. If he had his way, lynx wolves and aurochs would be wandering about the Scottish Highlands, all the sheep farms would be turned into rewilding projects. Would be a lot more fun but not a popular view with the farming community (I wonder if the NFU, a lobbying arm for the UKs large landowners, are anything to do with Monbiot not being allowed on BBC question time for 20 years, a longer drought than Nick Griffin, Katie Hopkins, disgraced jailbird Johnathan Aitken and all those rentagob trolls of the extreme right the BBC seem to be happy to give airtime to?

    Monbiot isn’t even really of ‘the left’ ideologically, he just challenges positions of power.
    There is every reason to reintroduce lynx as they are the main predator of destructive red deer. Sheep are unlikely to be grazing where red deer will be, and if sheep farmers keep a couple of alpaca or llama as 'guard dogs' predation will be minimal and a compensation scheme would help.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230836597_Lynx_Depredation_on_Domestic_Sheep_in_No rway
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    Everytime I read a Martina Hyde piece, I laugh.

    We do get the occasional glimpse of the prime minister, who was wheeled out this week for a visit to Derby, where we were given yet another opportunity to see Boris Johnson dressed up in a white coat. I think he’s supposed to appear medical and scientific, but only ever succeeds in looking like he’s got a lovely bit of pork cheek he can do you for £3.50.

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    A decent insight from a Scottish born Tory on how Scottish Tories see their fellow Scots. It might only be meant as humour but it explains a lot about their self-loathing.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...drunk-16214072

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    A decent insight from a Scottish born Tory on how Scottish Tories see their fellow Scots. It might only be meant as humour but it explains a lot about their self-loathing.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...drunk-16214072
    No, it really doesn’t. Tory philosophy sees other people through the prism of privilege, class and wealth. You can be any race, creed or colour you like as long as you are for the few and not the many, whether you’re from Cardiff, Crewe or Cockenzie.

    Michael Gove’s **** ‘comedy’ from the 1990s tells us as much about how Scottish Tories see other Scots as a 90s SNP MP suggesting blowing up water pipelines tells us about the SNPs approach to parliamentary democracy - ie none.

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    as long as you are for the few and not the many.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    There is every reason to reintroduce lynx as they are the main predator of destructive red deer. Sheep are unlikely to be grazing where red deer will be, and if sheep farmers keep a couple of alpaca or llama as 'guard dogs' predation will be minimal and a compensation scheme would help.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...heep_in_Norway
    Yes, I agree. Lots to commend it; the huge potential value of eco tourism compared to the loss making sheep economy propped up by subsidy. The absence of evidence of lynx or wolf attacks on humans, not being able to plant all the trees that are necessary to offset our carbon because deer numbers are at plague level and they munch the saplings before they have a chance to grow. As with all these things, it comes down to land ownership and political will. The biggest landowners in Scotland seem wedded to grouse beating and deer stalking as a rural economic solution. Personally I’d CPO the lot, but that’s just me being a Stalinist.

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    No, it really doesn’t. Tory philosophy sees other people through the prism of privilege, class and wealth. You can be any race, creed or colour you like as long as you are for the few and not the many, whether you’re from Cardiff, Crewe or Cockenzie.

    Michael Gove’s **** ‘comedy’ from the 1990s tells us as much about how Scottish Tories see other Scots as a 90s SNP MP suggesting blowing up water pipelines tells us about the SNPs approach to parliamentary democracy - ie none.
    What water pipelines?


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    https://twitter.com/scottories/statu...196366336?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    No, it really doesn’t. Tory philosophy sees other people through the prism of privilege, class and wealth. You can be any race, creed or colour you like as long as you are for the few and not the many, whether you’re from Cardiff, Crewe or Cockenzie.

    Michael Gove’s **** ‘comedy’ from the 1990s tells us as much about how Scottish Tories see other Scots as a 90s SNP MP suggesting blowing up water pipelines tells us about the SNPs approach to parliamentary democracy - ie none.
    Yes it really does, nothing is more important to the Scottish Tories than their precious Union that enables them to be Northern British before actually doing that what is best for Scotland. The amount of times they've bowed down to party central in Westminster to the detriment of Scotland is nauseating and you know it. They're now even asking voters to vote for parties that oppose everything they stand for if it can stop the electorate in Scotland having a meaningful vote on the constitutional status quo after having major constitutional change since the last referendum.

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    If Michael Gove is already criticising the state of Brexit, do we take that as a start to his leadership challenge? Blame it on Boris and get in there? "There would have been no downsides to Brexit if I was in charge, vote for me as leader" and we end up back to Brexit being able to be sold as different things to different people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Everytime I read a Martina Hyde piece, I laugh.

    We do get the occasional glimpse of the prime minister, who was wheeled out this week for a visit to Derby, where we were given yet another opportunity to see Boris Johnson dressed up in a white coat. I think he’s supposed to appear medical and scientific, but only ever succeeds in looking like he’s got a lovely bit of pork cheek he can do you for £3.50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Everytime I read a Martina Hyde piece, I laugh.

    We do get the occasional glimpse of the prime minister, who was wheeled out this week for a visit to Derby, where we were given yet another opportunity to see Boris Johnson dressed up in a white coat. I think he’s supposed to appear medical and scientific, but only ever succeeds in looking like he’s got a lovely bit of pork cheek he can do you for £3.50.




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    A decent insight from a Scottish born Tory on how Scottish Tories see their fellow Scots. It might only be meant as humour but it explains a lot about their self-loathing.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...drunk-16214072
    Ironic as the **** looks like his coupon has been drawn by my left hand

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    Tories with their hands in the till again. When will it stop? They've squandered Billions.

    Dominic Cummings was instrumental in the process of awarding a government contract without tender to a company run by his “friends”, according to court documents that raise questions about whether the Cabinet Office may have misled the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    No, it really doesn’t. Tory philosophy sees other people through the prism of privilege, class and wealth. You can be any race, creed or colour you like as long as you are for the few and not the many, whether you’re from Cardiff, Crewe or Cockenzie.

    Michael Gove’s **** ‘comedy’ from the 1990s tells us as much about how Scottish Tories see other Scots as a 90s SNP MP suggesting blowing up water pipelines tells us about the SNPs approach to parliamentary democracy - ie none.
    Which SNP MP?

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    Truss picking and choosing which topics are discussed


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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    Truss picking and choosing which topics are discussed


    She wants to talk about cheese.

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    Truss picking and choosing which topics are discussed


    They're hiding how ***** their brexit deal is from the public

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...struck-eu-deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Grieves View Post
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    They're hiding how ***** their brexit deal is from the public

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...struck-eu-deal
    This documentary from West German regional TV station WDR looks at who is set to profit from Brexit and their role in using an EU sceptical and and EU uneducated British public to make personal profit. There's a few well kennt faces in it.

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    up to date contracts for cronies list

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    this shower of crooked corrupt tory bar stewards would have been run out of government in a whole lot of countries

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    She wants to talk about cheese.

    it all smells a bit whiffy

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