(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Keith_M]

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Federal Prosecuters now investigating Trump's role in inciting riot and sedition. Stripey suntan time Donald.

If only.

Can't see it happening, though

[WhileTheChief..]

I’d imagine Trump will spend an awful lot of time defending himself against prosecution for years to come.

There’s bound to be enquiries into so many things, Russia being top of the list.

[WhileTheChief..]

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He should have been able to empty his clip in to the crowd with impunity, the same way a white counter-part could have done if it were as you described.

No, no he shouldn’t.

You’re not seriously suggesting that the police should have just opened fire into a crowd?

I thought that’s exactly the stuff that the US is trying to move away from.

I get that emotions are high, but your post is ridiculous in the extreme.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I’d imagine Trump will spend an awful lot of time defending himself against prosecution for years to come.

There’s bound to be enquiries into so many things, Russia being top of the list.

It wouldn't be a great surprise to me if he gets a pardon, for the federal charges at least.

So much of Biden's work is going to be about healing the divisions in America. In that light, a pardon would be a small price to pay. The alternative would be making a martyr out of Trump, and widening the divide.

It would stick in the throat, of course, but it's political reality.

[BroxburnHibee]

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It wouldn't be a great surprise to me if he gets a pardon, for the federal charges at least.

So much of Biden's work is going to be about healing the divisions in America. In that light, a pardon would be a small price to pay. The alternative would be making a martyr out of Trump, and widening the divide.

It would stick in the throat, of course, but it's political reality.

A pardon with the proviso neither him or his family ever run for public office again?

[CropleyWasGod]

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A pardon with the proviso neither him or his family ever run for public office again?

Might be an option.

That might not help the feeling of martyrdom, of course, but how far should JB go to appease the right?

[Ozyhibby]

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It wouldn't be a great surprise to me if he gets a pardon, for the federal charges at least.

So much of Biden's work is going to be about healing the divisions in America. In that light, a pardon would be a small price to pay. The alternative would be making a martyr out of Trump, and widening the divide.

It would stick in the throat, of course, but it's political reality.

I think that would be suicidal for the Democrats though. It would tear their own party apart. I don’t think he will even consider it.


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[Ozyhibby]

Of course President Pence might pardon him if he is removed from office next week.


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[CropleyWasGod]

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Of course President Pence might pardon him if he is removed from office next week.


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What would be the merit in that, given that he's only got a couple of weeks to go? Does that stop him from running in 2024?

[Hibrandenburg]

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I think that would be suicidal for the Democrats though. It would tear their own party apart. I don’t think he will even consider it.


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Appeasing fascists doesn't work, they only understand strength and appeasement will be interpreted as weakness.

[WhileTheChief..]

They want him out now before he does any more damage out of spite.

[Ozyhibby]

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What would be the merit in that, given that he's only got a couple of weeks to go? Does that stop him from running in 2024?

Yes but also, there needs to be consequences for inciting an attack on the govt and murdering a police officer.


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[AltheHibby]

Now the orange baby has tweeted that he won't attend Joe Biden's inauguration.

[lapsedhibee]

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Now the orange baby has tweeted that he won't attend Joe Biden's inauguration.

Stuck at Prestwick failing to gain admission to the country, I hope.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Now the orange baby has tweeted that he won't attend Joe Biden's inauguration.

It's tragic but unsurprising. I can't wait for a definitive biography of Trump's life; one that covers all his criminality and sociopathy over decades. What a read that will be.

[Northernhibee]

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Now the orange baby has tweeted that he won't attend Joe Biden's inauguration.

What strikes me is the tone of the speeches he made looking like a hostage, and his penultimate tweet. Put simply, there's no way that the same person posted these two messages, differing entirely in tone and general literacy, eight minutes apart.

The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!

was followed by

To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

[ballengeich]

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What would be the merit in that, given that he's only got a couple of weeks to go? Does that stop him from running in 2024?

The worry is quite how disturbed he is. James Naughtie was on radio yesterday saying that shortly before his resignation, Richard Nixon was depressed and frequently drunk, so chief of staff Alexander Haig took steps to disable the nuclear weapon codes the president had control over.

[hibsbollah]

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The worry is quite how disturbed he is. James Naughtie was on radio yesterday saying that shortly before his resignation, Richard Nixon was depressed and frequently drunk, so chief of staff Alexander Haig took steps to disable the nuclear weapon codes the president had control over.

I heard that interview this morning. And Naughtie thinks someone in a similar position to Haig today will have put steps in place to protect the codes. If the NSA hasn’t already.

[Jones28]

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No, no he shouldn’t.

You’re not seriously suggesting that the police should have just opened fire into a crowd?

I thought that’s exactly the stuff that the US is trying to move away from.

I get that emotions are high, but your post is ridiculous in the extreme.

My post was too strong, a should have been worded differently.

I wasn’t for a minute suggesting he should fire his gun into a crowd.

But my opinion is that a white counterpart could have taken that action without fear of repercussions; whereas a black officer could have felt torn between the two options and faced a very real choice of being beaten to death by a baying mob or shooting his way out and facing criminal charges at the end.

[Jones28]

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Now the orange baby has tweeted that he won't attend Joe Biden's inauguration.

First time ever?

[DaveF]

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First time ever?

No, it's occurred 3 times before but all in the 19th century.

[Ozyhibby]

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No, it's occurred 3 times before but all in the 19th century.

Nixon wasn’t at Ford’s.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

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Nixon wasn’t at Ford’s.


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Ford was sworn in inside the White House after Nixon's resignation. He then gave Nixon a full pardon for Watergate.

[Ozyhibby]

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Ford was sworn in inside the White House after Nixon's resignation. He then gave Nixon a full pardon for Watergate.

That’s why I wary of impeachment. Don’t want Pence in to pardon him.


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[weecounty hibby]

He is a child. Imagine any sane person voting for him. I genuinely do not understand why anyone who can objectively look at his four years in office and his previous history could put up any kind of argument for voting for him. Arguable most dangerous world leader at the moment p

[BroxburnHibee]

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That’s why I wary of impeachment. Don’t want Pence in to pardon him.


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A pardon would only come with some sort of concessions. Might be better than dealing with his crap for another 4 years sniping away.

Personally I'd stop him holding anymore rallies

[Ozyhibby]

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A pardon would only come with some sort of concessions. Might be better than dealing with his crap for another 4 years sniping away.

Personally I'd stop him holding anymore rallies

Nixon admitted nothing and Ford pardoned him for any and all crimes committed while he was President.


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[neil7908]

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I think that would be suicidal for the Democrats though. It would tear their own party apart. I don’t think he will even consider it.


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Yup. We have to remember that Trump increased his vote tally in November from 2016. He actually gained support.

Democrats won as they got more of their support out to vote as they understood what was at stake. If Biden decides to not take any action to "heal the nation" it will be a colossal error and lose the Democrats huge support.

We've already had Nixon escape justice on the grounds of healing the nation and here we are again 50 odd years later with Trump. To me it would be unconscionable to let him get away just because he's powerful.

Ultimately any investigation needs to be impartial and fair. Maybe no crimes have been committed but investigation is essential to prevent Trump 2.0,and show that American does actually have some semblance of a justice system.

[Lendo]

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A pardon with the proviso neither him or his family ever run for public office again?

That would potentially be challenged as a First Amendment issue in the Supreme Court. I think the First Amendment protects an individual’s right to political candidacy.

[Moulin Yarns]

I read this on twitter by Emma Kennedy


It seems the insurrectionist who died during his assault on the capitol, a man who wrote on Parler he was going “to ***** this country up” accidentally tasered himself in the balls while trying to steal a painting, triggering a heart attack.

Paging the Darwin Awards.