Daft argument but was 100% Stevenson, hence why he had his head in his hands before Miller even headed the ball. FWIW Lewis is done, Hanlon should be in and around the team but not an automatic starter, Daz and Gray are finished as well. Gray came on against Celtic and his rashness sold the jerseys as he has done often. A lot of work needed to our back 4, and Rocky back in ASAP.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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03-01-2021 02:27 AM #31
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03-01-2021 02:29 AM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Until the last few games Porteous and Hanlon along with Paul McGinn have been playing well, Jack Ross has rightly played them with SDG and Daz on the bench to be brought on as required, but in the main you don’t sub your defenders for tactical reasons so neither of them are getting on. I’m sure both of them accept that, although after yesterday’s performance both would have good cause for chapping on the managers door.
The fact is we need cover, both players are being used in that capacity just now.
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This is rather annoying, not a player we needed and many on here questioned at the time as to why he was signed, jobs for the boys is something you expect to see at Hearts and not Hibs.
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03-01-2021 08:12 AM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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If McGinn had all his badges as a coach and was signed as a player coach to act as cover, then I'd be happy enough for that but that isn't the case.
Re the Gray/McGregor deals, I was of the assumption that the longer deals was to allow them to integrate into the background side of the club by either going into coaching or ambassador roles, I think both have been doing their badges and their leadership skills were important for the squad.
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03-01-2021 08:25 AM #40
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I think Covid has made things difficult right now, there are still youth teams at HTC as far as I'm aware but nearly all Dev players are out on loan due to no league, I don't know if Daz and Gray are doing their badges I heard they were, perhaps that's been suspended during these times. Maybe Ross doesn't want them to be doing that as it undermines his position, TBH I'd like to see a lot more animation from Ross instead of just standing there hands in pockets whispering to his assistant. Leadership comes from the top and I see very little from the sidelines.
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03-01-2021 08:34 AM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Also with no reserve league this year it means fringe players have no way of getting game time.
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03-01-2021 08:38 AM #44
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I didn't know how they did that, I think due to this years problems our squad is such that both are on the bench as a necessity, if it was a normal season then you might have found they'd be doing more coaching with kids and a couple of new signings were here to challenge for places.Last edited by J-C; 03-01-2021 at 08:54 AM.
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03-01-2021 08:49 AM #46This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Whole defence apart from Mcginn need dropped.
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03-01-2021 08:59 AM #47
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It still baffles me, although when I mentioned this on another thread assessing Ross's signings it was shredded by one of our all knowing posters. Why Stephen McGinn was signed will remain an unanswered question for me.
Who knows if Gray and McGregor can still play at SPL level. If they can't then why are they even on the bench? TBF Gray is competing with McGinn, one of our better players this season. A fit McGregor is worth a start. Both Porteous and Hanlon seem prone to conceding simple goals, with Porto compounding this with rash passes, daft tackles and the like.
You wonder what else is going on. It's all a bit odd (like Ross's substitution policy).
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03-01-2021 10:31 AM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He’s actually looked pretty decent to me during his appearances late on in games.
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03-01-2021 11:05 AM #51
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I’m pretty sure he is also seen as good to have around the dressing room, may do some analysis work on opposing teams..
Was important for squad numbers, particularly when budget was restricted
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03-01-2021 11:09 AM #52
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Good for squad numbers isn’t cutting it with me as a signing strategy. We need players who play, when you add Murphy and Magennis into that mix, it’s not that great.
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03-01-2021 11:26 AM #54
We miss the drive of both of those players but there's nothing to suggest, from the last few times each has played, that they'd be an improvement on the current players.
SDG's passing the last few times he played was utterly woeful, and he left a massive gap on one side of the pitch for the opposition to attack while he was trying to drive the game forward.
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03-01-2021 11:38 AM #55
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We can debate whether it’s worked or not, but the decision to sign him is straight forward
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03-01-2021 11:40 AM #56This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He scored at Motherwell and put a lovely weighted pass through to Stevenson late in the game on Wednesday.
Mallan and Gogic both started yesterday and it really didn’t work. It “hasn’t worked” with either or both of those 2 in a good few attempts.
I stress - I don’t think he’s the answer but in a season where we’re toiling in midfield and our squad is stretched, I’m at the point where he might just be worth a shout.
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03-01-2021 11:42 AM #57
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Love Gray and McGregor and it’s not their fault they are in the position they are but it’s three players in our squad every week who simply aren’t going to contribute. And if they do get in at any point they’re going to be so far off the pace. Remember a home game, not long before the original lockdown, where Gray had an absolute disaster and was hooked at half time. Neither of them have played any kind of regular football for far too long now.
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03-01-2021 11:55 AM #58This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I understand the part about being short in midfield and a player being signed as back up. However, given he trained with us for weeks prior to signing I remain baffled by why Ross thought he could contribute and why he was given a year long contract. When the **** hits the fan, like it is now, that is when you start looking at errors of judgement.
I would add Murphy and Magennis to the list of questionable signings, although this starts moving away from Gray and McGregor at increasingly tangential tangents.
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03-01-2021 12:51 PM #59
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03-01-2021 01:51 PM #60This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My bigger issue is with Stephen McGinn because it’s a position we already had cover for. Cheap or not I still believe would could have got a loan signing from down south who could have contributed, as we did with Barker when he was on loan.
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