Jack Ross

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

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The idea of Hibs getting horsed by two minnows at home and then going and getting a point at Parkhead is not at all out of the question - entirely the kind of exasperating swing of fortune we seem to excel in as it goes. Like someone else commented above - it's the hope that kills you!

Celtc come home from a trip abroad. Edwoard let's off a fire extinguisher in the hotel lobby. Lennon has an unhappy squad... 😉

[basehibby]

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I’ve been critical of Ross and I don’t think this Hibs team are particularly good., that said though, his win % stats are impressive and they can’t just be discounted as irrelevant because you’re on the other side of the argument.

Fwiw I just think he’s not a good fit for Hibs. On paper Alex Miller put together a good team with exciting players and won a cup but he wasn’t a good fit and was never popular.

On paper Bobby Williamson took over a struggling Hibs team and brought through the golden generation (I hate that phrase) but wasn’t a good fit for us and I think most were relieved when he left.

On paper it is ridiculous that people are even considering sacking Jack Ross, looking at his stats there’s no way he should be under any pressure at all. Unfortunately for him though I suspect the writing is on the wall. We aren’t playing well just now and I suspect results like the last 2 will become a bit more common place, as soon as his win % starts to slide it will be thrown back at him and used as a stick to beat him with.

I personally don’t think he’ll ever recover from that semi final defeat. He’s got a great opportunity to do so by winning the league cup but even if he does, people will put it down tk not having to beat any big teams (in the same way people discredit John Collins trophy win by putting it down to Mowbrays team)

A very balanced assessment from someone that's not keen on Ross. Not sure I agree with your assessment of Ross though - I think I can see what he's trying to do and think he deserves a bit of patience. And definitely disagree with the bit in bold - a cup win - ANY cup win will cut ****loads of slack with the vast majority of the support I reckon. And deservedly so - you can only beat the teams in front of you and as this season's competition has shown, none of them are likely to make it an easy ride.

[NC1875]

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He probably gets to East Mains quicker than boys commuting from Glasgow etc!

Have you ever been stuck behind a tractor on the a1 ?

[Andy74]

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Can't see us winning any of the upcoming games. Really bleak times. Almost like the early 80's.

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What is the point of this kind of nonsense?

[HibeeHibernian4]

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Can't see us winning any of the upcoming games. Really bleak times. Almost like the early 80's.

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Just stop supporting us then. You'll be a lot happier.

[B.H.F.C]

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A very balanced assessment from someone that's not keen on Ross. Not sure I agree with your assessment of Ross though - I think I can see what he's trying to do and think he deserves a bit of patience. And definitely disagree with the bit in bold - a cup win - ANY cup win will cut ****loads of slack with the vast majority of the support I reckon. And deservedly so - you can only beat the teams in front of you and as this season's competition has shown, none of them are likely to make it an easy ride.

Genuine question here. What is it you think he’s trying to do?

Obviously he’s trying to build a team to win games, that’s his job. I’m just not sure how he’s looking to go about it. I don’t think we have an obvious way of playing. Magennis is the one that confuses me most. Forgetting his injuries, when he has been fit, he’s predominantly been stuck out on the left and there is no danger that is his position.

I think it’s good to have a bit of flexibility but we seem to chop and change and try to accommodate players. I think we’ve got results, and will continue to get results, because we have more money and better players than most teams in the league. But, back to the original point, I’m just no sure what kind of team he’s trying to build.

[EI255]

At least its not Yogi.

His post match comments today were child like and embarrassing.

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[J-C]

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At least its not Yogi.

His post match comments today were child like and embarrassing.

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Yet he schooled Ross tactics wise midweek

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Aye no bother, you might be happy losing to Shopping Centre Fc 0-3 at home, or Gamekeeper County 0-2 but I'm not. We are losing to absolute ***** without laying a glove on them, you keep happy clapping though... Well done Hibernian rotten luck today chaps....

nut i'm not havin it, i've never even heard of these teams, i think you've just made them up

[Unseen work]

My views on us this season is that we’re an ok squad that are doing and have performed well to date. When you look at it on paper there are a lot of average players Imo who have got us to this point.

Imo our squad is quite a bit behind Aberdeen’s and there’s not too much difference between us and some others.

What we had especially earlier in the season was a way to win and it was built on the back of a solid defence.

No we’re seeing other teams picking up results and putting a run together. Let’s not forget that up until last week we were in a very good position and the majority were happy. Although we lost to rangers we were decent and unlucky not to get something.

2 truly awful results and performances later and people are waning the manager sacked? It shows how quickly football and fans opinions can change.

Im not putting the last 2 performances and results down to Ross though, for me that’s the players. They need to take responsibly as the quality, or lack of, they’ve shown has been embarrassing and the goals conceded amateur. Ross hasn’t suddenly changed things, told them to perform differently or completely changed the squad. For whatever reason there has been a huge dip in form.

What I will criticise Ross for is if he can’t or fails to rectify it. Either by tactics, change of personnel or signing new players in January.

We need quality this month, real quality. Not players that were trying to convince ourselves, ones that come in and instantly show they’re good players.

Im also concerned at where our points will come from in the next month or so

Celtic (A)
Kilmarnock (H)
Rangers (H)
St Mirren (A)
Aberdeen (H)
Dundee United (A)

That is a very tough set and 6 points off County and Livingston going into it would have made things a lot more comfortable.

Within 3 weeks we could easily find ourselves 5/6th depending on results.

Kilmarnock, St Mirren Aberdeen and United are must wins imo although it will be very difficult and probably unrealistic to gain maximum points. Anything off the old firm will be a bonus - despite people thinking we should take something from them.

[basehibby]

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Genuine question here. What is it you think he’s trying to do?

Obviously he’s trying to build a team to win games, that’s his job. I’m just not sure how he’s looking to go about it. I don’t think we have an obvious way of playing. Magennis is the one that confuses me most. Forgetting his injuries, when he has been fit, he’s predominantly been stuck out on the left and there is no danger that is his position.

I think it’s good to have a bit of flexibility but we seem to chop and change and try to accommodate players. I think we’ve got results, and will continue to get results, because we have more money and better players than most teams in the league. But, back to the original point, I’m just no sure what kind of team he’s trying to build.

I think he's trying to play a passing game - trying to retain posession by playing from the defence through the midfield. It can look a bit laboured and can be frustrating to watch when the passing is not crisp or accurate enough but is easy enough on the eye when it does come off. Earlier in the season it was working enough for us over the course of most matches and we were getting our share of results. Over the last couple of games I thought just too many players have not been on it and we've conceded possession too easily and not created enough as a result. Also perhaps some sides are cottoning on and just not giving us the room in midfield to play that kind of game. So - maybe he needs to be more pragmatic in his approach and have a plan B - but that's the style that Ross has been pursuing from what I've seen.

NB - I reckon Magennis has been played wide left simply because he can, and absent of Murphy, we haven't got many options for that position in a 4-4-2 context. When he eventually gets fit I bet we'll see him playing a central role more often.

[B.H.F.C]

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I think he's trying to play a passing game - trying to retain posession by playing from the defence through the midfield. It can look a bit laboured and can be frustrating to watch when the passing is not crisp or accurate enough but is easy enough on the eye when it does come off. Earlier in the season it was working enough for us over the course of most matches and we were getting our share of results. Over the last couple of games I thought just too many players have not been on it and we've conceded possession too easily and not created enough as a result. Also perhaps some sides are cottoning on and just not giving us the room in midfield to play that kind of game. So - maybe he needs to be more pragmatic in his approach and have a plan B - but that's the style that Ross has been pursuing from what I've seen.

I think we struggle to play through the middle of the park. We don’t have that player who takes it off the back four and gets it playing and end up resorting to lumping it in the general direction of Doidge far too often. I know Newell has his good games but he’s about the park a bit more and doesn’t necessarily dictate games as a result.

A lot of our success early in the season was breaking on teams quickly. Ross actually spoke about giving up a bit in midfield to go with the front two but I think we’re seeing now you can’t sustain playing that way.

Still think midfield is our biggest issue. We have plenty midfielders but not a midfield if that makes sense.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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The idea of Hibs getting horsed by two minnows at home and then going and getting a point at Parkhead is not at all out of the question - entirely the kind of exasperating swing of fortune we seem to excel in as it goes. Like someone else commented above - it's the hope that kills you!

Which sums up what it's like to follow this club. We have everything to be far more successful than we have been, a big fanbase who will turn out at the slightest sign of a decent team, a stadium that can only be bettered by two clubs in the country, an excellent training facility we can use how and when we want and a budget well in excess of most other clubs.

Given all of that we always have the hope that we can be a consistent top 4 club and win a cup once every 4 or 5 years. The truth is that we never get anywhere near the level everything about this club says we should be capable of reaching, in fact there's just as much chance of us being relegated than winning anything. That's why it's so hard to follow at times.

As for our current situation: Is Jack Ross in danger of the boot? not in my opinion, at least not yet. But what we have seen in the last two games has been an absolute mess, two performances at home that wouldn't have looked out of place in any of the seasons we have been relegated in my time watching the club. The Celtic game won't be a factor unless we get absolutely humped, but if we do lose it and then perform against Killie the way we have in the last two games and lose that as well, then IMO his whole future could hinge on the League cup semi final.

I for one will be absolutely happy with 4th, hell even 5th, if we can win the League cup. Do that and it's been a successful season ... anybody who doesn't agree needs to remember that this club has only won a major trophy once in every 14.5 years of its 145 year existence. Winning that cup will keep him in a job until the summer IMO and I'll be ok with that. But lose to St Johnstone and he had better find a way to turn around our form and quick or he will be getting the dreaded vote of confidence before Easter.

NOTE:

I don't have a lot of sympathy for players complaining about the pitch, but it did look a bit crap today and considering it has barely had 20 competitive games played on it in 5 months you have to be asking why a full time ground staff can't come up with a better effort than that.

[One Day Soon]

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Which sums up what it's like to follow this club. We have everything to be far more successful than we have been, a big fanbase who will turn out at the slightest sign of a decent team, a stadium that can only be bettered by two clubs in the country, an excellent training facility we can use how and when we want and a budget well in excess of most other clubs.

Given all of that we always have the hope that we can be a consistent top 4 club and win a cup once every 4 or 5 years. The truth is that we never get anywhere near the level everything about this club says we should be capable of reaching, in fact there's just as much chance of us being relegated than winning anything. That's why it's so hard to follow at times.

As for our current situation: Is Jack Ross in danger of the boot? not in my opinion, at least not yet. But what we have seen in the last two games has been an absolute mess, two performances at home that wouldn't have looked out of place in any of the seasons we have been relegated in my time watching the club. The Celtic game won't be a factor unless we get absolutely humped, but if we do lose it and then perform against Killie the way we have in the last two games and lose that as well, then IMO his whole future could hinge on the League cup semi final.

I for one will be absolutely happy with 4th, hell even 5th, if we can win the League cup. Do that and it's been a successful season ... anybody who doesn't agree needs to remember that this club has only won a major trophy once in every 14.5 years of its 145 year existence. Winning that cup will keep him in a job until the summer IMO and I'll be ok with that. But lose to St Johnstone and he had better find a way to turn around our form and quick or he will be getting the dreaded vote of confidence before Easter.

Excellent post. It's the under performance relative to our comparative strength over others that is so galling. That and the long standing feeling that there is not the kind of hard-******* mentality at Easter Road from the very top downwards that says losing is not acceptable, anyone who wants points is going top have claw them from our hands and any player not giving 100% is liable to end up in a fight on the training ground with everyone else who won't tolerate phoning it in. The boy band expression is overdone but there's a reason it was used in the first place and then repeated. You need a winning mentality to succeed in football as in all other sports and you don't get it by being anything other than utterly committed, all of the time.

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Excellent post. It's the under performance relative to our comparative strength over others that is so galling. That and the long standing feeling that there is not the kind of hard-******* mentality at Easter Road from the very top downwards that says losing is not acceptable, anyone who wants points is going top have claw them from our hands and any player not giving 100% is liable to end up in a fight on the training ground with everyone else who won't tolerate phoning it in. The boy band expression is overdone but there's a reason it was used in the first place and then repeated. You need a winning mentality to succeed in football as in all other sports and you don't get it by being anything other than utterly committed, all of the time.

It isn't even the commitment though. Over the last 5 years Hibs have made huge play of the club's approach to sports science, we must have spent a small fortune on that side of the game, from nutritionists to psychologists and everything in between. And yet both Ross County and Livvi looked fitter and physically stronger than us, football isn't about 60 yard sprints, its about speed over 10 to 20 yards and most of our players lack that burst of pace, including now it would seem Martin Boyle, who has barely out stripped a defender all season .... do we even have a sprint coach amongst the white coat brigade?

Not just that but we see players getting subbed after 70 minutes because their race is run, that's after 22 games of a bog standard league campaign, why the **** is Kevin Nesbit in need of a rest as the commentators kept saying today, the guy is a 23 year old professional athlete FFS other players should be struggling to match his energy, that's not a dig at him BTW he clearly cares and I could never say I've seen him not trying.

Which brings us to the fans. Its amazing the number of times in threads like this over the years, including this one, where you get fans saying 'why are folk so surprised that we are playing so badly or that we can't sustain a run of form, Hibs have been like that since I started watching them' in whatever year you care to choose from the drop down menu .... It's almost got to the stage where that's our comfort blanket, there's no point in moaning about it because this is just what Hibs do, what we have always done. The whole point of taking this club to the next level is for the folk involved with the club from the owner to the fans to the tea lady to finally grasp that 'it's aye been' has to become 'this cant be'

What we have seen in the last two games is totally unacceptable and can't be swept under the carpet. I seem to recall Alan Stubbs, probably one of the most affable arm round the shoulder type managers we have had absolutely publicly slating his team after a defeat by Raith Rovers. There has to come a time when Jack Ross starts throwing the cups and saucers around as well and I mean publicly.

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Jack Ross formerly known as Dross and Loss

Get a grip. Tiresome.

[heretoday]

You can't sack the manager after two defeats! Honestly, the boredom threshold of some fans is infantile.

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It isn't even the commitment though. Over the last 5 years Hibs have made huge play of the club's approach to sports science, we must have spent a small fortune on that side of the game, from nutritionists to psychologists and everything in between. And yet both Ross County and Livvi looked fitter and physically stronger than us, football isn't about 60 yard sprints, its about speed over 10 to 20 yards and most of our players lack that burst of pace, including now it would seem Martin Boyle, who has barely out stripped a defender all season .... do we even have a sprint coach amongst the white coat brigade?

Not just that but we see players getting subbed after 70 minutes because their race is run, that's after 22 games of a bog standard league campaign, why the **** is Kevin Nesbit in need of a rest as the commentators kept saying today, the guy is a 23 year old professional athlete FFS other players should be struggling to match his energy, that's not a dig at him BTW he clearly cares and I could never say I've seen him not trying.

Which brings us to the fans. Its amazing the number of times in threads like this over the years, including this one, where you get fans saying 'why are folk so surprised that we are playing so badly or that we can't sustain a run of form, Hibs have been like that since I started watching them' in whatever year you care to choose from the drop down menu .... It's almost got to the stage where that's our comfort blanket, there's no point in moaning about it because this is just what Hibs do, what we have always done. The whole point of taking this club to the next level is for the folk involved with the club from the owner to the fans to the tea lady to finally grasp that 'it's aye been' has to become 'this cant be'

What we have seen in the last two games is totally unacceptable and can't be swept under the carpet. I seem to recall Alan Stubbs, probably one of the most affable arm round the shoulder type managers we have had absolutely publicly slating his team after a defeat by Raith Rovers. There has to come a time when Jack Ross starts throwing the cups and saucers around as well and I mean publicly.

The ‘athleticisim’ of our squad is chronic.

Other than McGinn and possibly Boyle I’d say the rest of the squads ‘athleticism’ is poor-average.

It’s no wonder we get so easily over-run

[Iain G]

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Ones in bold were horrendous and we can now add Jack Loss or Jack Dross to the list.

A defeat at Celtic (highly likely) a week on Monday and he's really struggling as that will be 4 defeats on the bounce, we then play Kily at home, then the St Johnstone semi then Rangers at Easter Rd, then St Mirren away, failure to win any of those games and he's away because by that time other teams from below could have caught up with us and we will be out the cup.

What about Jack Albatross or are you saving that one up for after your semi? Sorry the semi?

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The ‘athleticisim’ of our squad is chronic.

Other than McGinn and possibly Boyle I’d say the rest of the squads ‘athleticism’ is poor-average.

It’s no wonder we get so easily over-run

I'd be really interested in seeing stats on how much our players ran the last two games compared to County and Livi. It felt like they were constantly chasing us, pushing forward when we won the ball and never giving us a moments peace.

I was really impressed by Livi and their current run speaks for itself. But we made life far, far too easy foe them.

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The ‘athleticisim’ of our squad is chronic.

Other than McGinn and possibly Boyle I’d say the rest of the squads ‘athleticism’ is poor-average.

It’s no wonder we get so easily over-run

I don't think we have a fitness coach now, Paul Green was released due to Covid, so who is doing the fitness side of things?

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I'd be really interested in seeing stats on how much our players ran the last two games compared to County and Livi. It felt like they were constantly chasing us, pushing forward when we won the ball and never giving us a moments peace.

I was really impressed by Livi and their current run speaks for itself. But we made life far, far too easy foe them.

If we look at our squad I’d say:

Gray
McGregor
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson

Hallberg
Mallan
Newell
Gogic

Doidge
Nisbet

Off the top of my head are particularly unathletic. Guys that you wouldn’t expect to out run/catch anyone, wouldn’t be massively confident of them overpowering anyone or covering more ground than most others over the course of a game. There’s far too many in our squad and our midfield in particular needs some athleticism in there.

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I don't think we have a fitness coach now, Paul Green was released due to Covid, so who is doing the fitness side of things?

On the basis of recent games, the answer is “no-one”. A professional football team which struggles with running and drive isn’t acceptable. Obviously mitigating factors could be the size of squad and number of games but other clubs are in the same boat.

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It isn't even the commitment though. Over the last 5 years Hibs have made huge play of the club's approach to sports science, we must have spent a small fortune on that side of the game, from nutritionists to psychologists and everything in between. And yet both Ross County and Livvi looked fitter and physically stronger than us, football isn't about 60 yard sprints, its about speed over 10 to 20 yards and most of our players lack that burst of pace, including now it would seem Martin Boyle, who has barely out stripped a defender all season .... do we even have a sprint coach amongst the white coat brigade?

Not just that but we see players getting subbed after 70 minutes because their race is run, that's after 22 games of a bog standard league campaign, why the **** is Kevin Nesbit in need of a rest as the commentators kept saying today, the guy is a 23 year old professional athlete FFS other players should be struggling to match his energy, that's not a dig at him BTW he clearly cares and I could never say I've seen him not trying.

Which brings us to the fans. Its amazing the number of times in threads like this over the years, including this one, where you get fans saying 'why are folk so surprised that we are playing so badly or that we can't sustain a run of form, Hibs have been like that since I started watching them' in whatever year you care to choose from the drop down menu .... It's almost got to the stage where that's our comfort blanket, there's no point in moaning about it because this is just what Hibs do, what we have always done. The whole point of taking this club to the next level is for the folk involved with the club from the owner to the fans to the tea lady to finally grasp that 'it's aye been' has to become 'this cant be'

What we have seen in the last two games is totally unacceptable and can't be swept under the carpet. I seem to recall Alan Stubbs, probably one of the most affable arm round the shoulder type managers we have had absolutely publicly slating his team after a defeat by Raith Rovers. There has to come a time when Jack Ross starts throwing the cups and saucers around as well and I mean publicly.

I agree with lots of your posts as always.

The worst posts for me on this forum are the ones that type..

I’ve been following Hibs for 30/40/50 years etc. It’s what Hibs do ...etc.

The problem I have with this is there is a different generation / type of fan who simply don’t accept the just because it used to be like that..means it will always be like that.

That mindset is weak and won’t see Hibs pushing for 3rd in Scotland when it really should be over time. I don’t mean 3rd this season I say 3rd like Aberdeen have been constantly doing with a cup win thrown into the mix every so often.

Some fans maybe started following Hibs when they were up and down and training in a public park. But now the club has the infrastructure to be 3rd / 4th minimum every year.

Fans expectations have rightly risen and that’s a good thing. Accepting derby defeats and results like week won’t grow us as a club - it will lose fans so we have to make sure it doesn’t happen regularly. That’s why fans have every right to question the absolute shambles that has happened this week. We best Livi 4-1 earlier in the season and then suddenly lose 3-0 going on 5 or more - the players and management / staff should rightly be put under pressure as it’s not good enough for the £ we spend to support the club.

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You can't sack the manager after two defeats! Honestly, the boredom threshold of some fans is infantile.

It’s not just 2 defeats though. That’s the simple way to look at it.

X2 derby loses - one of those performances absolutely awful.
Aberdeen loses this season and not scoring against them.
Aberdeen 3-1 end of last season
Dundee Utd late goal this season
St Johnstone home draw this season
Celtic late goal this season
Ross County - bottom of the league - 1 point from 6
Livi - 3-0 going on more ( worst ever home defeat to Livi)
Livi 1-1 end of last season at home
Alloa performance in cup
League Cup group stages performances were woeful.

That’s off the top of my head...

Yes we have won some games obviously and credit where it’s due for those away wins but we are still a massive work in progress but you would think results like this would happen at the start when a new manager comes in - not after a season and a half !

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It’s not just 2 defeats though. That’s the simple way to look at it.

X2 derby loses - one of those performances absolutely awful.
Aberdeen loses this season and not scoring against them.
Aberdeen 3-1 end of last season
Dundee Utd late goal this season
St Johnstone home draw this season
Celtic late goal this season
Ross County - bottom of the league - 1 point from 6
Livi - 3-0 going on more ( worst ever home defeat to Livi)
Livi 1-1 end of last season at home
Alloa performance in cup
League Cup group stages performances were woeful.

That’s off the top of my head...

Yes we have won some games obviously and credit where it’s due for those away wins but we are still a massive work in progress but you would think results like this would happen at the start when a new manager comes in - not after a season and a half !

I’m in no way advocating sacking him, but to look upon this reaction as being solely down to 2 defeats is a nonsense and I’d suggest the people saying that’s what it is know it.

We’ve had some utterly dreadful results under Jack Ross, some of them some of the worst we’ve had since before we got relegated.

[Since452]

I hope he has the players in at East Mains today for a double session and to watch that car crash over again. Any player who doesn't want to be at the training ground today trying to put that horror show right can **** off.

[loanheadhibby]

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You can't sack the manager after two defeats! Honestly, the boredom threshold of some fans is infantile.

No one is basing it on last 2 results. Even looking at bigger picture, semi final & 4th in league, the writing is on the wall.

The brand of football is atrocious. The lack of victories against Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen & ****bos is another concern. The constant signing of injured players. Filling the staff with ex St Mirren players/staff. The signing of Stephen McGinn.

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I hope he has the players in at East Mains today for a double session and to watch that car crash over again. Any player who doesn't want to be at the training ground today trying to put that horror show right can **** off.

The players are on extended leave for next few days after a tough schedule.

[Allez Hibs]

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The players are on extended leave for next few days after a tough schedule.

A tough schedule???