Jack Ross

[ahibby]

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Wait a minute, the Livi manager came in when they were garbage and they have won i think seven on the trot ! that is short term progress with resources a fraction of our own so i think i might be correct ?

If he keeps it up then it will be long term progress. Dont know about his other wins but beating Hibs at home just now compares to taking candy from a baby.

[Centre Hawf]

Jack Ross shouldn't be sacked. Anyone suggesting he should are being overly reactionary at the moment. But on the other hand you can't just shut down criticism of him and those questioning his ability to be a real long term success here.

The football is turgid, we spent the first half of the season so far being difficult to beat and scoring the odd goal to take us over the line. We've never really started scoring goals consistently and now were losing our ability to defend. That is a huge worry as we stare down the barrel of the second half of the season.

The squad needs a lot of work this window to give us as best a chance of keeping hold of 4th but also not falling too far behind 3rd. If it's even possible given out current form.

Jack Ross needs to arrest this slide and it doesn't get easier with Celtic next. Perhaps playing some actual football might help.

[Dr What If?]

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I think Ross’s problem is that he’s got zero credit in the bank after the Hearts game and the entertainment has been so poor since he joined.

The only good win I can think of is the win at Tynecastle? There’s obviously been a few good performances since then but the only memorable game that people will remember under him is that one game at Tynecastle.

Alas but for fine margins and poor luck.....should have beat Celtic if it wasn't for a dodgy penalty against us, should have taken something from Ibrox but for a stone waller we didn't get. The Hearts result was a sickener, it was an even match but can't say Hearts didn't deserve it in the end.....that game really, really mattered, we deserved better.
What makes the last 2 results worse is we deserved them, we have been second best. Our players are better than that, its like they have all lost form at the same time....its actually bizarre!

[neil7908]

Absolutely no way should he be getting the sack.

But pressure is on. The semi loss against Hearts was a sore one, if (and that's a big if) we don't win the LC he's going to struggle to win back the fans.

All teams lose games and have poor performances but the last couple have been a real shocker. They don't feel like bad days at the office - every player was poor, and the manager didn't seem to know how to change things.

I fear we are at the start of a downward spiral but I'd love to be proven wrong.

[Stokesy's on fire]

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He has to start winning the big games

Also has to me start being ruthless with the team. Half of them aren’t good enough.

Got to fear though season ticket sales for next year will drop dramatically

He also has to strat winning the not so big games..

The clubs aim should be 3rd upwards any lower than that is not acceptable

[ahibby]

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Absolutely no way should he be getting the sack.

But pressure is on. The semi loss against Hearts was a sore one, if (and that's a big if) we don't win the LC he's going to struggle to win back the fans.

All teams lose games and have poor performances but the last couple have been a real shocker. They don't feel like bad days at the office - every player was poor, and the manager didn't seem to know how to change things.

I fear we are at the start of a downward spiral but I'd love to be proven wrong.

Thats how I see it too.

[gaz1875]

We are the slowest team in the league by a mile. Every team that comes to Easter Road has plenty space when they have the ball and seem to stroll past our midfield and defence. Even the lower league teams in the League Cup matches were a struggle bar the last 15 minutes against Dundee. We have no pace other than Boyle who is easily marked out the game. This isn't a new thing either its been happening for years.

[Hibiza]

3rd place , no chance. No inspiration , no motivation , just another day in the office. Get pelters no doubt , truth hurts.

[easty]

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3rd place , no chance. No inspiration , no motivation , just another day in the office. Get pelters no doubt , truth hurts.

Why would you get pelters?

[Since452]

I wish the players showed the same fight that I've seen on here today. We are too soft. Lost the fight against Hearts in the horrible conditions too. Plenty decent footballers but not enough character. We don't have that nastiness we need. I thought Gogic might bring that but he just seems another nice guy. Nobody jumps out to me as being captain material. Gray and McGregor yes but can't be a capitan from the bench. Is that down to Ross? Maybe. Gray was Stubbs first signing so he obviously knew his character and what it would bring. I'm sure Ross knows this himself and I'm willing to give him a chance to sort it this month. Teams like Ross County, Hamilton and Livi will dig in in the winter months and battle for everything. We don't have that.

[Davy Mac]

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I think if truth be known on this forum, we are well up in this league at the moment, but to say we are setting the league on fire is somewhat over stated!
After most games we have said it was a good result but the play was not to standard.
Now the results have gone the other way and teams have found a way to play us, everyone is looking back on some of our results, and added to the last 2-3 bad results, we've all seen it coming!
Changing the manager is not the way to go, its a gut reaction to poor results, that in the end only costs the club more money!!!!

The question for me is, does our Manager actually want to be here?

I'm not convinced.

[Smartie]

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We are the slowest team in the league by a mile. Every team that comes to Easter Road has plenty space when they have the ball and seem to stroll past our midfield and defence. Even the lower league teams in the League Cup matches were a struggle bar the last 15 minutes against Dundee. We have no pace other than Boyle who is easily marked out the game. This isn't a new thing either its been happening for years.

Yeah, I thought that it was pretty noticeable that man for man we appeared to be a decent bit slower than our opposite numbers today.

[Keith_M]

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aberdeen 3 ahead with two games in hand

livingston 9 points behind with two games in hand. you missed that out

I understand that... and I admit to not being confident about staying in front... but let's just wait and see what happens in those games-in-hand before stating it as fact.

Like I said, I'm also not best pleased with our performances in a lot of recent games, so I'm not trying to be a happy-clapper or anything like that

[500miles]

We're short a couple of athletes in the middle of the park. We'll still win games, but we need a driving force in the middle to be consistent. It's not a lot, but it's hard to find.

[calumhibee1]

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We won't win the Semi.

Which is depressing. ‘04 and ‘16 LC finals all over it.

[gaz1875]

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Yeah, I thought that it was pretty noticeable that man for man we appeared to be a decent bit slower than our opposite numbers today.

Sadly its nearly every game. There was a run my McGinn second half he actually looked like he was running in quick sand.

[calumhibee1]

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We're short a couple of athletes in the middle of the park. We'll still win games, but we need a driving force in the middle to be consistent. It's not a lot, but it's hard to find.

Yup. That is by far the biggest failing we have imo.

Our midfield must be one of the most unathletic in the league.

We need a Docherty type player in there - someone with legs who can get about and get up and down the pitch.

[Dashing Bob S]

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I wish the players showed the same fight that I've seen on here today. We are too soft. Lost the fight against Hearts in the horrible conditions too. Plenty decent footballers but not enough character. We don't have that nastiness we need. I thought Gogic might bring that but he just seems another nice guy. Nobody jumps out to me as being captain material. Gray and McGregor yes but can't be a capitan from the bench. Is that down to Ross? Maybe. Gray was Stubbs first signing so he obviously knew his character and what it would bring. I'm sure Ross knows this himself and I'm willing to give him a chance to sort it this month. Teams like Ross County, Hamilton and Livi will dig in in the winter months and battle for everything. We don't have that.

That’s the crux of it. Our two natural leaders are past it and on the bench. Grogic is a tough tackling enforcer but he’s the silent assassin type rather than the guy who shouts at and motivates other players.

[Kinross Hibee]

Give him the next transfer window, assess rest of this season and take it from there... We're still in for a shout at a major piece of silverware! Offer me 4th and a league cup at start of season, id have been a happy chap 🇳🇬

[#2 Double Tap]

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Yup. That is by far the biggest failing we have imo.

Our midfield must be one of the most unathletic in the league.

We need a Docherty type player in there - someone with legs who can get about and get up and down the pitch.

we do need some CM'ers but Docherty was pish. just another player who went missing in the derby.

[Cod Boy]

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Give him the next transfer window, assess rest of this season and take it from there... We're still in for a shout at a major piece of silverware! Offer me 4th and a league cup at start of season, id have been a happy chap 🇳🇬

Is that Neil

[Smartie]

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Yup. That is by far the biggest failing we have imo.

Our midfield must be one of the most unathletic in the league.

We need a Docherty type player in there - someone with legs who can get about and get up and down the pitch.

Docherty transformed the team when he came onto it last season.

I’m still happy that we have some decent players but we badly need energy in midfield.

We have too many players in our already small squad who can’t be relied upon to provide a sizeable or meaningful contribution.

[Smartie]

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we do need some CM'ers but Docherty was pish. just another player who went missing in the derby.

Docherty was excellent.

Had a bad night in the derby when all of our players were posted missing.

[#2 Double Tap]

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Give him the next transfer window, assess rest of this season and take it from there... We're still in for a shout at a major piece of silverware! Offer me 4th and a league cup at start of season, id have been a happy chap 🇳🇬

another transfer window.....pppfftttt.

our recruitment team dont deserve another window, wright, murphy, mcgennis, mcginn, gogic. Thats what they came up with to sort out our midfield, 2 injury prone, 2 nowhere near good enough, and a guy who looks like a headless chicken when he passes the halfway line.

[#2 Double Tap]

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Docherty was excellent.

Had a bad night in the derby when all of our players were posted missing.

latapy was excellent, docherty had one good game v killie.

[basehibby]

That's two abysmal results and performances on the trot against teams we should really be beating at ER - 6 points dropped - and yet only a week ago we were coming away from Ibrox justly disappointed for not getting at least a draw from a very impressive Rangers side.

I think there is talent in this Hibs side and that Ross has improved us since his arrival - but can only conclude that they have collectively hit a bit of a wall, mentally and/or physically, and that we lack the numbers to freshen things up. Both Doidge and Nisbet are off form up front with only young Gullen to cover for them - while at the back we similarly have very little to choose from if either Hanlon or Porteous get injured or lose form. I know other sides have similar problems to contend with but that's the way I see it.

I think Ross should be given the chance to bolster the squad this window with the aim of winning the League Cup and securing a European spot. If he fails to do either then I think his position should seriously be under review. For now though I think he's earned the chance to turn things around and there seems little risk in allowing him the opportunity to try - changing manager on the other hand is always a gamble (as well as an expense) and should not be rushed into. Things can change quickly in football though, and 3 losses on the trot is very poor form if not quite at the jotters stage - if approaching the end of January it's 6 losses on the trot I might reconsider.

[Kinross Hibee]

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another transfer window.....pppfftttt.

our recruitment team dont deserve another window, wright, murphy, mcgennis, mcginn, gogic. Thats what they came up with to sort out our midfield, 2 injury prone, 2 nowhere near good enough, and a guy who looks like a headless chicken when he passes the halfway line.

Ok, aswell just sacking him then 👍

[superfurryhibby]

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latapy was excellent, docherty had one good game v killie.

Yep, overall he was gash. The derby match was merely a heavy skid mark on the pair of manky y -fronts that represents Docherty’s time at Hibs.

[h1bs4life]

Thought Ross was a good appointment at the time , good start although some of the performances while not the best we racked up the points.
Semi final loss was a major setback and home performances have been sore to watch.
Think we have better players than both Ross County and Livingston but they were better organised and scrapped for everything.
Not for the 1st time we have been outfought this season , no leadership , soft as s###. All the away teams have a push / kick at Boyle until one gets booked then someone else has a go.
We are far to nice, was thinking we have a great chance of winning the league cup now 2 of the other semi final teams have beat us.
The fact he is looking at giving both Newell and Stevenson new contracts causes a bit concern he maybe deserves a chance to fix things but if Ron Gordon was to give him the boot it wouldn't bother me.

[Allant1981]

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Thought Ross was a good appointment at the time , good start although some of the performances while not the best we racked up the points.
Semi final loss was a major setback and home performances have been sore to watch.
Think we have better players than both Ross County and Livingston but they were better organised and scrapped for everything.
Not for the 1st time we have been outfought this season , no leadership , soft as s###. All the away teams have a push / kick at Boyle until one gets booked then someone else has a go.
We are far to nice, was thinking we have a great chance of winning the league cup now 2 of the other semi final teams have beat us.
The fact he is looking at giving both Newell and Stevenson new contracts causes a bit concern he maybe deserves a chance to fix things but if Ron Gordon was to give him the boot it wouldn't bother me.

Would that be the same newell that has been possibly the best player on the park most weeks all season