(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[jonty]

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How much of his fence/wall was actually built?

Any chance it gets pulled down now?

between 3 and 15 miles of new wall (never existed before)
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/f...ms/3437653001/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46824649

although its a fence, not a wall.
and he took $10bn from the DoD budget to do it.

[Bostonhibby]

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How much of his fence/wall was actually built?

Any chance it gets pulled down now?

Similar numbers to fraudulent postal votes by the sounds of it.

There's criminal charges pending over the funding as well.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...anada-46824649

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[Hibs Class]

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His legacy will be the wall, big vote winner, senate majority and he never built it.

Not to mention the Donald Trump Coronavirus response.

Tells us more about how easily politicians can con the voters with big soundbites.

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Well his legacy certainly won’t be the Paris Agreement. If Biden sticks to his word and recommits the USA to it on day one, then Trump will have managed to extract the country from it for c.10 weeks. Symbolically that’s a huge embarrassment for him.

[Bostonhibby]

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Well his legacy certainly won’t be the Paris Agreement. If Biden sticks to his word and recommits the USA to it on day one, then Trump will have managed to extract the country from it for c.10 weeks. Symbolically that’s a huge embarrassment for him.

Agreed, but to be embarrassed he'd need to have a conscience about his actions and be capable of shame.

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[BroxburnHibee]

Coronavirus task force set up ready to go will be announced tomorrow.

Paris decision will be be reversed.

Straight back into the WHO.

What else will Biden do pretty quickly?

[Pagan Hibernia]

Trump is the political equivalent of hearts. A bombastic obnoxious jobbie that just can’t accept he’s been flushed.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Coronavirus task force set up ready to go will be announced tomorrow.

Paris decision will be be reversed.

Straight back into the WHO.

What else will Biden do pretty quickly?

Can he do that so soon?

[RyeSloan]

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Can he do that so soon?

Was reading earlier that most of what Trump has done has been by executive order.

It appears that the new Pres can just rip them up and make his own ones and boom almost everything major that Trump ‘achieved’ is reversed almost immediately.

[BroxburnHibee]

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Can he do that so soon?

The task force won't take effect until he's sworn in i believe and the others will be taken care of by Ex O's i would imagine.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Was reading earlier that most of what Trump has done has been by executive order.

It appears that the new Pres can just rip them up and make his own ones and boom almost everything major that Trump ‘achieved’ is reversed almost immediately.

My point is that he's not in office until January. Can he do much before then?

[RyeSloan]

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My point is that he's not in office until January. Can he do much before then?

Ahh sorry. Naaa not much at all apart from plan I reckon.

[G B Young]

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My point is that he's not in office until January. Can he do much before then?

Not much until he's sworn in next year. Also faces the usual, often insurmountable frustrations that many presidents do if the Republicans retain control of the Senate.

As an aside, it's probably already been mentioned on either this or another thread, but I was reading up on Biden earlier and was bemused to see his 1988 bid for the presidency collapsed after plagiarising a speech by Neil Kinnock?!!

https://gvwire.com/2020/08/21/recall...ms-plagiarism/

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[Lendo]

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Coronavirus task force set up ready to go will be announced tomorrow.

Paris decision will be be reversed.

Straight back into the WHO.

What else will Biden do pretty quickly?

Try to repair the Iranian Nuclear Deal (although this will cause a lot of friction with Israel and Saudi Arabia whom he might not want to piss off immediately)

[theonlywayisup]

I see that someone has changed the thread title to "(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump". However, I thought that all former presidents receive the title of “president” even after the leave office unless they hold another position such as congrerrmen/congresswomen.

[lapsedhibee]

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What's the Former President claiming there? That his TV show was cheated out of awards by fraudulent voting?

[Kato]

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What's the Former President claiming there? That his TV show was cheated out of awards by fraudulent voting?

Just an example of his narcissism when he erm, loses something.

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[Moulin Yarns]

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I see that someone has changed the thread title to "(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump". However, I thought that all former presidents receive the title of “president” even after the leave office unless they hold another position such as congrerrmen/congresswomen.

I'm currently watching Designated Survivor and a former president is addressed as president.

[Keith_M]

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I'm currently watching Designated Survivor and a former president is addressed as president.

There was a film called My Fellow Americans where two former Presidents (Jack Lemmon and James Garner) are being hunted down by the current President (Dan Ackroyd) and all three are referred to as 'Mr President'.

[lapsedhibee]

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I'm currently watching Designated Survivor and a former president is addressed as president.

You wouldn't address someone as Former President, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't talk about Former Presidents.

[lapsedhibee]

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There was a film called My Fellow Americans where two former Presidents (Jack Lemmon and James Garner) are being hunted down by the current President (Dan Ackroyd) and all three are referred to as 'Mr President'.

Do you mean 'addressed as' rather than 'referred to'?

[Bristolhibby]

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My point is that he's not in office until January. Can he do much before then?

He can hold briefings, tell people to distance and wear masks. Basically give some more credibility to the messaging.

He can outline his plans and keep the public informed. Work up his Federal vaccine implemention plan, speak to health, military and logistics experts. Ensure that the States know they won’t have to eBay with other States for PPE and the likes.

All things that the incumbent has not done. True, he won’t have the mechanics of State yet, but he can get wheels in motion.

J

[Moulin Yarns]

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Do you mean 'addressed as' rather than 'referred to'?

In Designated Survivor the current president addressed the former president as Mr president.

Like, once a president, always a president.

[lapsedhibee]

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In Designated Survivor the current president addressed the former president as Mr president.

Like, once a president, always a president.

Yes, as a form of address. But there's nothing wrong with the current title of this thread.

[G B Young]

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In Designated Survivor the current president addressed the former president as Mr president.

Like, once a president, always a president.

Yes, it's the same in the movie Frost vs Nixon. Nixon gets referred to throughout as Mr President despite resigning in disgrace.

As you say Trump will always be addressed as Mr President...and I guess as President Donald Trump should he run again and win in 2024!!

[Bostonhibby]

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He can hold briefings, tell people to distance and wear masks. Basically give some more credibility to the messaging.

He can outline his plans and keep the public informed. Work up his Federal vaccine implemention plan, speak to health, military and logistics experts. Ensure that the States know they won’t have to eBay with other States for PPE and the likes.

All things that the incumbent has not done. True, he won’t have the mechanics of State yet, but he can get wheels in motion.

J

Somebody needs to do something as the Loser who thinks he's a winner seems to think that if he is still running the country he can do it all by sulking round the golf course.

Shame on the Republican leaders for allowing this state of affairs to continue, especially over Trump's bizarre Covid "response " or lack of it.

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[Keith_M]

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Do you mean 'addressed as' rather than 'referred to'?

Yep, that's what I meant.

[G B Young]

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He can hold briefings, tell people to distance and wear masks. Basically give some more credibility to the messaging.

He can outline his plans and keep the public informed. Work up his Federal vaccine implemention plan, speak to health, military and logistics experts. Ensure that the States know they won’t have to eBay with other States for PPE and the likes.

All things that the incumbent has not done. True, he won’t have the mechanics of State yet, but he can get wheels in motion.

J

Apparently the General Services Administration (GSA) is responsible for setting the transition process in motion. Until they officially recognise Biden as the winner the transition can't begin.

As far as I'm aware (might be wrong though) the GSA is an independent body so I'm not sure why they would be dragging their heels.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

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Yes, it's the same in the movie Frost vs Nixon. Nixon gets referred to throughout as Mr President despite resigning in disgrace.

As you say Trump will always be addressed as Mr President...and I guess as President Donald Trump should he run again and win in 2024!!

If he were to run in 2024 and win, could he defend that in 2028 and become a three term President?

*won't happen cos he'll either be banged up or drop dead hacking his way out the rough at the 16th hole somewhere.

[Hibbyradge]

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Apparently the General Services Administration (GSA) is responsible for setting the transition process in motion. Until they officially recognise Biden as the winner the transition can't begin.

As far as I'm aware (might be wrong though) the GSA is an independent body so I'm not sure why they would be dragging their heels.

The counting hasn't finished?