(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[AltheHibby]

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I don't think applying the law is the problem. It's interpreting certain areas of the law (and arguably making it) which is the concern.

I think we agree here. Interpreting is a better word than applying, but (honestly) that's what I was thinking. I just mispoke!

[marinello59]

Trump looks even more deranged when he is trying to be reasonable. He pre-paid millions in tax.

[Sylar]

I'd love to see a fact check from last night. Almost everything he said in the segment on climate change was total bollocks. Wind energy is too expensive, and has more emissions than natural gas...from the manufacture of the turbines...

Which is completely wrong, as wind energy has the lowest carbon emissions through its entire life cycle, and is one of the least expensive forms of renewables.

[Hibs Class]

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I'd love to see a fact check from last night. Almost everything he said in the segment on climate change was total bollocks. Wind energy is too expensive, and has more emissions than natural gas...from the manufacture of the turbines...

Which is completely wrong, as wind energy has the lowest carbon emissions through its entire life cycle, and is one of the least expensive forms of renewables.

Don't think it addresses the point on wind specifically, but quite a lot of fact checking at this link.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/22/p...ate/index.html

[BroxburnHibee]

He told so many lies last night its gonna take quite a while to fact check it.

[Sylar]

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Don't think it addresses the point on wind specifically, but quite a lot of fact checking at this link.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/22/p...ate/index.html

Great, thanks HC - exactly what I was looking for to confirm my suspicions (more generally).

[Ozyhibby]

Fact checking Trump is a complete waste of time. It doesn’t affect his level of support as it is just now. He is down to his core supporters now and I don’t think he will rise from where he is now. How many lies he tells does not matter to them.


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[Keith_M]

I finally understand his hatred of China.

They've actually been successful in making the guy pay some taxes.

[Bristolhibby]

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I'd love to see a fact check from last night. Almost everything he said in the segment on climate change was total bollocks. Wind energy is too expensive, and has more emissions than natural gas...from the manufacture of the turbines...

Which is completely wrong, as wind energy has the lowest carbon emissions through its entire life cycle, and is one of the least expensive forms of renewables.

And the birds, don’t forget the birds.

(As thousands of American citizens are dying of COVID, and the President being pro hunting).

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[JeMeSouviens]

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Fact checking Trump is a complete waste of time. It doesn’t affect his level of support as it is just now. He is down to his core supporters now and I don’t think he will rise from where he is now. How many lies he tells does not matter to them.


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The polls have flatlined for months.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...eral/national/

Short of Biden having a heart attack in the next 10 days, he wins.

[lapsedhibee]

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And the birds, don’t forget the birds.

All the birds. If commies like Biden are allowed to build windmills, there will be no more birds.

[Hibrandenburg]

For those of you who have still not got their heads around how the US could possibly have elected a racist, misogynist liar like Trump, I highly recommended re-watching the Borat film from 2006, it all becomes perfectly clear after that.

[Pretty Boy]

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For those of you who have still not got their heads around how the US could possibly have elected a racist, misogynist liar like Trump, I highly recommended re-watching the Borat film from 2006, it all becomes perfectly clear after that.

I watched it in preparation for the new one.

What was striking was that things that shocked me a decade or so ago didn't really have an impact anymore. That kind of rhetoric has moved into the mainstream. Those guys on the bus were hounded for what they said at the time. Now the President implies it is OK to say these things and people at his rallies proudly declare them for the camera. I'm sceptical a new film in the same vein can work, the news gives more of a platform to these voices than a satirical film ever could.

Anyway another debate that saw no massive disaster for Biden so he should be just about home and dry now.

[Colr]

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Fact checking Trump is a complete waste of time. It doesn’t affect his level of support as it is just now. He is down to his core supporters now and I don’t think he will rise from where he is now. How many lies he tells does not matter to them.


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Maybe but it might help persuade those who do not support him to turn up and vote. No benefit of the doubt this time round.

[Keith_M]

Wind Farms actually do kill birds (and bats). What Trump, Putin and those of their ilk have avoided is comparing the numbers with those that die through other forms of power generation.

THIS article makes some interesting comparisons.


According to the article, domestic Cats kill an estimated 55 million birds in the UK every year.

Anybody that had a genuine interest in bird numbers would introduce a law banning Cats.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Wind Farms actually do kill birds (and bats). What Trump, Putin and those of their ilk have avoided is comparing the numbers with those that die through other forms of power generation.

THIS article makes some interesting comparisons.


According to the article, domestic Cats kill an estimated 55 million birds in the UK every year.

Anybody that had a genuine interest in bird numbers would introduce a law banning Cats.

The proper location of wind farms, away from migratory routes of birds, mitigates against possible bird deaths. Early wind farms in the USA killed huge numbers due to lack of knowledge of migratory birds.

Other studies show that painting one blade a different colour can mitigate against bird strike.

Bats navigate by using linear features, such as hedges or the edge of woodland, there are minimum distance regulation for the location of turbines in relation to such features, mitigating against bat strikes.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Wind Farms actually do kill birds (and bats). What Trump, Putin and those of their ilk have avoided is comparing the numbers with those that die through other forms of power generation.

THIS article makes some interesting comparisons.


According to the article, domestic Cats kill an estimated 55 million birds in the UK every year.

Anybody that had a genuine interest in bird numbers would introduce a law banning Cats.

Windfarms don't **** in other folks' gardens either.

[jonty]

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Wind Farms actually do kill birds (and bats). What Trump, Putin and those of their ilk have avoided is comparing the numbers with those that die through other forms of power generation.

THIS article makes some interesting comparisons.


According to the article, domestic Cats kill an estimated 55 million birds in the UK every year.

Anybody that had a genuine interest in bird numbers would introduce a law banning Cats.

And glass buildings. You know, like the one he lived in before the White House.

[Future17]

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I think we agree here. Interpreting is a better word than applying, but (honestly) that's what I was thinking. I just mispoke!

Yeah, sorry, probably more my pedantry than anything else! It is a difficult situation though as people who are genuinely capable of making such major decisions objectively are probably few and far between.

[neil7908]

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I watched it in preparation for the new one.

What was striking was that things that shocked me a decade or so ago didn't really have an impact anymore. That kind of rhetoric has moved into the mainstream. Those guys on the bus were hounded for what they said at the time. Now the President implies it is OK to say these things and people at his rallies proudly declare them for the camera. I'm sceptical a new film in the same vein can work, the news gives more of a platform to these voices than a satirical film ever could.

Anyway another debate that saw no massive disaster for Biden so he should be just about home and dry now.

It's scary. I just watched it as well and it's pretty tame what these randoms are saying compared to the rhetoric from mainstream politicians now. And not just Trump.

I watched the original film in horror but for others it seems to have been a rallying call to pursue the kind of views the film exposes.

[Hibrandenburg]

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It's scary. I just watched it as well and it's pretty tame what these randoms are saying compared to the rhetoric from mainstream politicians now. And not just Trump.

I watched the original film in horror but for others it seems to have been a rallying call to pursue the kind of views the film exposes.

Just finished watching Borat 2 and the scene near the end with Rudy Giuliani would in normal times have meant the end of his career. "I was just tucking my shirt into my pants", aye right Rudy.

[theonlywayisup]

So, wonder if tomorrow is start of the end game!

[calumhibee1]

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So, wonder if tomorrow is start of the end game!

I’ve said for a while now that he’s no chance.. now I’m starting to think he might somehow win again..

[theonlywayisup]

I listened to Joe Biden the other night. He spoke for four minutes; in my opinion he sounded more presidential in that four minutes than Donald Trump as in the previous four years. Biden talks about this being the "time to heal" the US and vows "not to divide but to unify". I hope the Americans give him a chance, but can see this all getting messy. Both in the short term with all the talk about legal challenges and in the medium/long term with a Republican Senate.

Back to Donald Trump, he once said the Barack Obama was the worst US president ever. I wonder how the historians will assess Trump's presidency!

[lapsedhibee]

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I wonder how the historians will assess Trump's presidency!

Already been done on Twitter: 'The past is *****, the past is orange.'

[Keith_M]

Bat **** Crazy.

He's getting worse every day and needs locked up.

[Bostonhibby]

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Already been done on Twitter: 'The past is *****, the past is orange.'

His legacy will be the wall, big vote winner, senate majority and he never built it.

Not to mention the Donald Trump Coronavirus response.

Tells us more about how easily politicians can con the voters with big soundbites.

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[Keith_M]

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His legacy will be the wall, big vote winner, senate majority and he never built it.

Not to mention the Donald Trump Coronavirus response.

Tells us more about how easily politicians can con the voters with big soundbites.
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'Get Brexit Done'

[BroxburnHibee]

How much of his fence/wall was actually built?

Any chance it gets pulled down now?

[Ozyhibby]

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How much of his fence/wall was actually built?

Any chance it gets pulled down now?

9 whole extra miles. All fence. No actual wall.


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