The generic Hearts thread

[147lothian]

There's a 32 page thread "Scottish Premier League football for anyone who gives a ****" on JKB. They comment on almost every game but they are apparently not really interested, very strange.

[Dashing Bob S]

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If we have another lockdown all the non Prem teams are in serious bother.

I think we should have another lockdown but it should only apply to the non premiership league.

[Brightside]

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I think we should have another lockdown but it should only apply to the non premiership league.

That’s what will happen as they don’t have the testing facilities.

[147lothian]

All it would take would be for someone to sneeze in that windy seaside league for the virus to spread and the games a bogy.

[Jack]

With the threat of a second wave of Covid-19 on the way and more restrictions about to be announced what are the odds of the start of the lower leagues being delayed?

Fairly high I'd suspect.

Shame, I feel sorry for all these 'wee diddy' clubs.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

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Was face to face with family yam today and he was very vocal about the very same point. Brechin now bad.

Their chairman had too much clout for someone running a small club apparently. Budge is back on his good books again but not really clear why.

Also thinks the Championship should be scrapped this season so all the "wee"clubs can go to the wall, Hearts will survive because they've got Budge and "Jim" Anderson who will never allow Hearts to die.

Couldn't gey a word in.I think family yam is missing the fitba.

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In what way does the Championship being scrapped help them back in to the Premiership? Even if a Premiership team went bust there is no guarantee that they would be the team asked to take their place.

[Since452]

Let me get this right.. In around a decade Hearts have gone from outgrowing Hibs and having Celtic as their biggest rivals to having big huge rivalries with Brechin City and St Mirren? Really?

[bingo70]

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With the threat of a second wave of Covid-19 on the way and more restrictions about to be announced what are the odds of the start of the lower leagues being delayed?

Fairly high I'd suspect.

Shame, I feel sorry for all these 'wee diddy' clubs.

It is a shame for the lower league clubs but the SPFL really need to focus on the elite clubs at this time.

[Bostonhibby]

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In what way does the Championship being scrapped help them back in to the Premiership? Even if a Premiership team went bust there is no guarantee that they would be the team asked to take their place.

Think he's lashing out at everyone who isn't Partick, Inverness or Sevco. All the "diddy teams" shouldn't have equal voting rights with big teams like Hearts......etc. Lawell has Scottish football sewn up and he doesn't want hearts with Anderson's money in the top flight I could go on..

I did remind him Budge never once tabled anything to suggest a change in voting rights when she was on the board of the SPFL or before she managed to steer big spending Hearts to the bottom of the league.

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[Peevemor]

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Anderson wouldn't invest in a company that performs as badly as Hearts, so at what point will he demonstrate his professional ability and start questioning the mismanagement of his funding?

We've all had one of those mates who you'd rather just buy a few pints rather than give him yet another sub and put up with his apologies/excuses the next 5-6 times you see him. I reckon that's how Anderson sees Hearts.

[Peevemor]

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That’s what will happen as they don’t have the testing facilities.

Was Anderson's donation not to facilitate testing in the lower leagues?

[04Sauzee]

Dazjambo hoping to get one right on kickback

dazajmbo

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Andy Halliday is happy with a deal we have offered him. Would be surprised if he didn't sign

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[JohnM1875]

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Dazjambo hoping to get one right on kickback

dazajmbo

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Andy Halliday is happy with a deal we have offered him. Would be surprised if he didn't sign

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Hope he's wrong. Started to like Halliday after his Open Goal appearances.

[mjhibby]

It’s a surreal place kickback. Apparently we’re *******, the spl is mince and were a one man team,squirrel. They are sure after tonking east fife they will beat us in the semis. The odd guy pipes up to see we are a tougher team this season but kickback doesn’t do reality. They are carping about loaning zlamal to St Mirren saying Queen Anne doesn’t care what the fans think. Totally weird place.

[Kato]

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Totally weird place.

Any message board merely reflects it's contributors. On average that place is classed as "rabidly bonkers". Way back when, in the 90's, it was actually not too bad. You could go on there and have a conversation about football with several posters, along with the expected abuse which happens on every footy board.

I reckon the last of their truly decent posters were ssshd-up about 15 years ago. Thinking of that, that's about when that Russian crook guy bought them and not "believing" was a sign of heresy. There's still sensible-ish people there but the ratio of full on moon-howlers is huge.

[ancient hibee]

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Probably when the Tech companies take a dive as he did according to CapitalGreen in March when these companies stock prices were down heavily on Covid. He deprioritised his donations to Hearts. Tech stocks have taken a 12% tumble over the last two weeks with his big holding Tesla down 25% at one point. There looks to have been a speculative bubble in Tech companies driven by small investors using leveraged derivatives. That bubble looks to be bursting impacting Benny's fund and net wealth. The well may be about to go dry.

Baillie Gifford sold a chunk of Tesla before the price fell. Anderson's Scottish Mortgage trust is at a record high.The only effect on Anderson's net wealth has been to increase it considerably.

[Peevemor]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

"Hearts goalkeeper Zdenek Zlamal has expressed his gratitude to St Mirren for giving him the chance to play Scottish Premiership football again."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...mirren-2978206

[Northernhibee]

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Hope he's wrong. Started to like Halliday after his Open Goal appearances.

The one on one interviews with Simon Ferry are good as he seems to get the interviewee at ease quickly, but the Open Goal Youtube videos are cringeworthy. Three neds thinking that they're absolutely hilarious and filling up half of the show with crap banter about what they've been up to.

[FilipinoHibs]

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Baillie Gifford sold a chunk of Tesla before the price fell. Anderson's Scottish Mortgage trust is at a record high.The only effect on Anderson's net wealth has been to increase it considerably.

Well the rest of the tech sector is falling still so the fund must be going down in value. Looks like the bubble is bursting as in March when he pulled back on his charity work. Should have kept his Tesla holding as outperforming the market and his fund. Looks like he sold during the big price decline as fund falls in line with Tesla but does nit bounce with Tesla rebound. Fund now heading south with all stocks.

[WhileTheChief..]

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I don't think this is right. The BG fund has been one of the best performing over the last 12 months. I don't see why he wouldn't be invested in a similar manner, or even just in his own fund. I think be has done OK during COVID, which is what has led to the donations to the SFA and women's football

Baillie Gifford have something like 3 of the top 5 performing funds this year in the UK.

They had more inflows than most other funds and the Scottish Mortgage Trust has been the standout investment trust for the best part of a decade.

Do any reading up on BG and it’s all positive. They are a massive success story.

Filipinos take on things is just wrong.

[WhileTheChief..]

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Well the rest of the tech sector is falling still so the fund must be going down in value. Looks like the bubble is bursting as in March when he pulled back on his charity work. Should have kept his Tesla holding as outperforming the market and his fund. Looks like he sold during the big price decline as fund falls in line with Tesla but does nit bounce with Tesla rebound. Fund now heading south with all stocks.

The only reason they sold Tesla was down to concentration levels within their retail funds.

They can’t hold more than 10% of one company within their portfolio and due to Tesla’s amazing performance it pushed their holding above this level.

They made around £12B from that sale. To put it in context, BG started buying shares in Tesla at around $30. Today they are trading at $445.

https://citywire.co.uk/investment-tr...a-bet/a1387830

[CapitalGreen]

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Filipinos take on things is just wrong.

If you just assume the opposite of what FilipinoHibs says, you will typically be on the right track. His continued confidence in what he says despite his abysmal track record about Hearts benefactors is actually quite impressive.

[matty_f]

I was talking to my son yesterday ahead of the game about green financial gulf that exists between the two Glasgow sides and the rest of Scottish football, and how it makes any sort of analysis on games involving those two almost absurd. Sportscene, for example, fawning over Ryan Kent, who at £7m probably equals the cost of our full squad.

Really, the emphasis should have been on Paul McGinn and how he dealt with the danger by and large.

We then started talking about how Hibs should, by the same token, regularly beat teams that don’t have either the financial clout that we have, or the advantages that our set up give us (training centre, catering, youth academy, dedicated recruitment team, an analysis team etc), and how it we capitalise on that we could really kick on (as per Ron Gordon’s plan!).

Then we applied that logic to Hearts and they have terrific facilities available to them at Orium, outspent us by a considerable amount, and have fans chucking in millions per year.

To find yourself the worst team in the league over an eighteen month period, relegated out of the top division, and unable to play games still is a real achievement. You’d almost have to work at being that bad.

They should have been comfortably third based on budget etc. It’s hard to overstate the extent of the bad management of Levein and Stendel. To overcome all those advantages and still get relegated in the most hilarious fashion, takes some doing.

I almost have a grudging respect for them for managing it.

[stantonhibby]

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If you just assume the opposite of what FilipinoHibs says, you will typically be on the right track. His continued confidence in what he says despite his abysmal track record about Hearts benefactors is actually quite impressive.

Lol.....very true!

[TrinityHibs]

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Well the rest of the tech sector is falling still so the fund must be going down in value. Looks like the bubble is bursting as in March when he pulled back on his charity work. Should have kept his Tesla holding as outperforming the market and his fund. Looks like he sold during the big price decline as fund falls in line with Tesla but does nit bounce with Tesla rebound. Fund now heading south with all stocks.

I don’t think you could be more wrong if you tried. Just check the Morningstar performance review of SMIT. It’s up 68% on the year to date and continues to have a significant holding in Tesla and Amazon.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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If you just assume the opposite of what FilipinoHibs says, you will typically be on the right track. His continued confidence in what he says despite his abysmal track record about Hearts benefactors is actually quite impressive.

😂😂😂

[Seveno]

Romanov is still killing that club. A generation were brought up to believe their superiority and god-given right to win. The whole story of dominating Scottish football, winning the European Champions League and destroying Hibs was swallowed and they still believe.

Their tiny minds cannot comprehend what is happening so they look for conspiracy theories. Every one else hates them and are our to get them. A self-fulfilling prophesy.

[H113EE5]

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Baillie Gifford have something like 3 of the top 5 performing funds this year in the UK.

They had more inflows than most other funds and the Scottish Mortgage Trust has been the standout investment trust for the best part of a decade.

Do any reading up on BG and it’s all positive. They are a massive success story.

Filipinos take on things is just wrong.

I agree for what it's worth. Scottish Mortgage have been a great earner for me and the g/kids over the past 10 years. Highly recommend.

[oneone73]

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Romanov is still killing that club. A generation were brought up to believe their superiority and god-given right to win. The whole story of dominating Scottish football, winning the European Champions League and destroying Hibs was swallowed and they still believe.

Their tiny minds cannot comprehend what is happening so they look for conspiracy theories. Every one else hates them and are our to get them. A self-fulfilling prophesy.

A generation? He was there for what, eight years?

[hibbyfraelibby]

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A generation? He was there for what, eight years?

Agreed but their support act like spoiled wee 5 year olds so 8 years count as a mental generation