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    It's certainly an interesting piece of information to have.

    Given the number of Scots who travelled to Italy that week and the influx from Madrid to Liverpool with no restrictions if movement at the time as well as the Rangers game at Ibrox and the number of Scots at Cheltenham and so on I wonder how important it is in tracking the spread of the virus though, obviously no one in that article has made any claims that it is a vitally important piece of evidence. There must be a number of people who came within a few hours or a day or 2 of being patient zero in Scotland.
    My mistake (again) it was Edinburgh's first case identified as patient zero.


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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-54205353

    Wow. This shows how important it is for the quarantine to be strictly enforced.
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    We've heard lots about the number of people who have antibodies, with data from serological studies. IIRC we got an update on it in Scotland around July which suggested around 5% have antibodies. Not so much has been said about T-cell immunity.

    This is a good (and encouraging read) which suggests the level of immunity may be between 20-50%. I suspect it's linked to the comments by Prof Saleem.
    https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563

    There are a number of caveats, in that the size of the studies are small. The article acknowledges that, but also highlights that 6 different studies in different parts of the globe showing a similar pattern is encouraging.
    Interesting stuff. One thing I'm still not clear on is whether the T cell respnse prevents an individual from transmitting the disease as well as protecting the individual themselves. I assume it should do as the T cells must be preventing the viral cells from multiplying but I don't think I've seen anything directly referencing the point.

    I personally think the country just got a tad over confident at the end of August / early September with schools going back and no immediate spike in infections. I'd like to think that throttling things back a little bit, plus also the shift in attitudes that makes people a little more careful as a result of talk of second wave etc, should be enough to get things back under control. Time will tell though.

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    https://news.stv.tv/east-central/hos...us-oubreak?top

    Hospital near Falkirk closed a ward because test and protect identity case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-54205353

    Wow. This shows how important it is for the quarantine to be strictly enforced.
    Something I was wondering this morning, now that we've left
    EU I wonder if we still have to stick to GDPR rules. Perhaps we could legislate to allow people like that to be named. It would surely have a powerful impact if people knew that they might end up on the front page of national newspapers if they behave like that and cause thousands to get ill and / or die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
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    Something I was wondering this morning, now that we've left
    EU I wonder if we still have to stick to GDPR rules. Perhaps we could legislate to allow people like that to be named. It would surely have a powerful impact if people knew that they might end up on the front page of national newspapers if they behave like that and cause thousands to get ill and / or die.
    Could be wrong, but think patient confidentiality rights will trump GDPR

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    Could be wrong, but think patient confidentiality rights will trump GDPR
    But they would be in UK legislation though wouldn't they? And therefore could be overridden with new legislation? Like adding in a clause that says if you do something spectacularly stupid and dangerous and infect dozens of people we're going to splash your mug shot over every daily paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
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    if you do something spectacularly stupid and dangerous and infect dozens of people we're going to splash your mug shot over every daily paper.
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    But they would be in UK legislation though wouldn't they? And therefore could be overridden with new legislation? Like adding in a clause that says if you do something spectacularly stupid and dangerous and infect dozens of people we're going to splash your mug shot over every daily paper.
    That could actually encourage some of the complete morons out there to engage in stupid and dangerous acts. I'd like to see a more stringent enforcement of mask wearing. I appreciate its difficult to enforce but we have to keep people aware that its a legal requirement to wear masks and wear them properly in shops and supermarkets especially.

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    https://news.stv.tv/east-central/hos...us-oubreak?top

    Hospital near Falkirk closed a ward because test and protect identity case.
    Not good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Not good!
    Is that on the site of the old Bellsdyke hospital?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-54205353

    Wow. This shows how important it is for the quarantine to be strictly enforced.
    I don’t think the manpower is there. I’m sure Sturgeon said a couple of weeks ago that they were aiming to contact and check on 20% of those who were supposed to be in quarantine. That sounds pretty good but if my experience is anything to go by they aren’t checking that everybody who is returning to the country have actually filled in the required form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    I don’t think the manpower is there. I’m sure Sturgeon said a couple of weeks ago that they were aiming to contact and check on 20% of those who were supposed to be in quarantine. That sounds pretty good but if my experience is anything to go by they aren’t checking that everybody who is returning to the country have actually filled in the required form.
    I suppose that's the problem, although I'm sure other countries have a different approach. Is Australia not putting arrivals into hotels which are easily monitored?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I suppose that's the problem, although I'm sure other countries have a different approach. Is Australia not putting arrivals into hotels which are easily monitored?
    They are but weren’t they identified as the source of the new outbreak in Melbourne?
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    Is that on the site of the old Bellsdyke hospital?
    Yeah it's basically the main hospital serving Falkirk, Stirling and Clackmannanshire, it opened maybe 15 years ago or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Yeah it's basically the main hospital serving Falkirk, Stirling and Clackmannanshire, it opened maybe 15 years ago or so.
    I remember when Bellsdyke was a different hospital, my wife's headmaster had his holidays there. 😉
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    Daily Scottish update;

    350 new cases since yesterday
    Increase of 3 in the confirmed cases in hospital
    Increase of 4 in the confirmed cases in intensive care
    3 deaths registered since yesterday

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    I remember when Bellsdyke was a different hospital, my wife's headmaster had his holidays there. 😉
    Yeah I know what you mean. It was before my time but I know its history.

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    Daily Scottish update;

    350 new cases since yesterday
    Increase of 3 in the confirmed cases in hospital
    Increase of 4 in the confirmed cases in intensive care
    3 deaths registered since yesterday
    That's not good.

    I don't think we can expect anything other than a pretty tough crackdown early next week.
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    Daily Scottish update;

    350 new cases since yesterday
    Increase of 3 in the confirmed cases in hospital
    Increase of 4 in the confirmed cases in intensive care
    3 deaths registered since yesterday
    Feels like it’s starting to go in the wrong direction quite quickly now.

    Social lives are about to become very restricted. Really hope that businesses aren’t affected too much and people can continue to earn a living.

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    Breakdown of today's cases by health board;

    Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 116
    Lothian - 80
    Lanarkshire - 56
    Fife - 21
    Highland - 14
    Ayrshire and Arran - 13
    Borders - 13
    Grampian - 13
    Forth Valley - 8
    Tayside - 8
    Dumfries and Galloway - 3
    Shetland - 3
    Orkney - 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Feels like it’s starting to go in the wrong direction quite quickly now.

    Social lives are about to become very restricted. Really hope that businesses aren’t affected too much and people can continue to earn a living.
    Big jump in people newly tested compared to yesterday's report though (6,500 vs 4,500) and tests conducted (24,000 vs 17,000). So it's definitely going in the wrong direction but not quite as badly as it first appears.

    Good news is that the UK government testing volumes seem to be getting back on track and the Scottish NHS tests are the highest they've ever been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Breakdown of today's cases by health board;

    Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 116
    Lothian - 80
    Lanarkshire - 56
    Fife - 21
    Highland - 14
    Ayrshire and Arran - 13
    Borders - 13
    Grampian - 13
    Forth Valley - 8
    Tayside - 8
    Dumfries and Galloway - 3
    Shetland - 3
    Orkney - 2
    Don’t know the person head stats, but that is Lothian cases (in volume terms) much higher than Lanarkshire , which is in lockdown ...

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    Don’t know the person head stats, but that is Lothian cases (in volume terms) much higher than Lanarkshire , which is in lockdown ...
    They seem to be mostly Edinburgh (59 cases). Wonder how many are students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Breakdown of today's cases by health board;

    Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 116
    Lothian - 80
    Lanarkshire - 56
    Fife - 21
    Highland - 14
    Ayrshire and Arran - 13
    Borders - 13
    Grampian - 13
    Forth Valley - 8
    Tayside - 8
    Dumfries and Galloway - 3
    Shetland - 3
    Orkney - 2
    The areas that are already under tougher restrictions don’t seem to be coming down at all.

    I can see a Scotland wide tightening up in a big way at the start of the week.

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    There was always an expectation - in fact, an inevitability - that reopening society this side of a vaccine would lead to cases going up again, since the virus spreads through social contact. It just seems that the increase is now at a pace the Govt(s) are unable to control without putting us back under stricter measures, unfortunately.

    Can only hope that the next month or two bring us good news about vaccine trial results, and/or the theory that up to 50% of the world's population may have immunity proves true and starts to slow the spread by virtue of those resistant to infection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney McGrew View Post
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    The areas that are already under tougher restrictions don’t seem to be coming down at all.

    I can see a Scotland wide tightening up in a big way at the start of the week.
    Glasgow should have been tightened down on harder before now, I can’t see why that hasn’t happened. Westminster have gone further with the North of England than we seem willing to go. I agree , we are probably looking at nationwide restrictions now. I can’t help but feel we had a chance to avoid that.
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    The areas that are already under tougher restrictions don’t seem to be coming down at all.

    I can see a Scotland wide tightening up in a big way at the start of the week.
    Restrictions simply weren’t restrictive enough IMO.

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