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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Sauzee View Post
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    Heart of Midlothian Football Club can confirm that we were advised at 4.30pm this afternoon of the decision of the Joint Response Group to delay the return to training for clubs out-with the SPFL Premiership and that as a consequence, Hearts were required to cease training with immediate effect.

    We requested a delay to the publication of that decision, while we discussed the implications. While the situation was being discussed internally, the decision was published, some 20 minutes or so later.

    While recognising the hugely complex decision-making processes involved in dealing with the Covid-19 crisis, the Club has nonetheless objected to this decision in the strongest terms.

    To be clear, we had previously requested to return to training on 3rd August to fit in with our training plans and needs. Along with a Betfred Cup campaign and Championship season to prepare for, we also have a Scottish Cup semi-final to participate in. We confirmed that we were able to comply with all the required protocols, which we have done. All other Championship clubs were given the same opportunity to return to training. They chose not to return at that time, as was their right.

    Having received authority to return to training, we built our plans around the agreed date. Our players and support staff were taken off furlough; contracts were signed with new staff and new players on the clear understanding that we would be in full training. We signed contracts with service providers, including Oriam and our Testing company. Testing has once again been carried out this week, with costs incurred, in anticipation of continued training. Suffice to say that at a time when every football club in the land is managing its costs as tightly as possible, we have incurred significant “unnecessary” costs.

    We have done nothing wrong and yet, once again, we are being disproportionately disadvantaged by a decision which has been described as “the fairest”. We should not forget that this situation has come about, not because of Covid-19, but because of behavioural issues, not by our employees but by those of other clubs. This delay reflects a lack of confidence that certain clubs will be able to comply and meet the required protocols. How can it possibly be “fair” that we should be penalised?

    When questioned in what way this was “the fairest way forward”, we were advised that some other clubs now wanted to return to training and it was deemed that by preventing them from doing so, without halting our training, would give us an unfair advantage.

    Our fans are naturally incensed by this action, especially given what has transpired over recent months. For the avoidance of doubt, everyone at the Club is equally incensed. We are currently considering our options.
    That is brilliant! I started thinking it was a spoof but realised as the outrage jet plane started to gain height and reach the fever pitch of cruising altitude that it was real, then I really thought it was hilarious!

    Well done Anne, keep 'em coming!

    Edit: Just saw that I am not the only one to think it a spoof. Brog too.
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    [QUOTE=proud_and_green;6268715]That is brilliant! I started thinking it was a spoof but realised as the outrage jet plane started to gain height and reach the fever pitch of cruising altitude that it was real, then I really thought it was hilarious!

    Well done Anne, keep 'em coming!

    The statement from Federation of Hearts is even better. On statement bingo they throw in 'beggars belief' to trump the 'for avoidance of doubt' in the official statement. Has anyone ever used those phrases in a normal conversation?

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    That is brilliant! I started thinking it was a spoof but realised as the outrage jet plane started to gain height and reach the fever pitch of cruising altitude that it was real, then I really thought it was hilarious!

    Well done Anne, keep 'em coming!

    The statement from Federation of Hearts is even better. On statement bingo they throw in 'beggars belief' to trump the 'for avoidance of doubt' in the official statement. Has anyone ever used those phrases in a normal conversation?
    For the avoidance of doubt Brog, and I know it beggars belief, no, I've not

    They'll be even more spewing when they find out three of their 'top' players want to leave too never is a happy ship over at Tynie

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    For the avoidance of doubt Brog, and I know it beggars belief, no, I've not

    They'll be even more spewing when they find out three of their 'top' players want to leave too never is a happy ship over at Tynie
    Do Hearts have top players 😁
    What 3 want to leave?

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    Do Hearts have top players 😁
    What 3 want to leave?
    Boyce, Smith and Souttar.

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    The statement from Federation of Hearts is even better. On statement bingo they throw in 'beggars belief' to trump the 'for avoidance of doubt' in the official statement. Has anyone ever used those phrases in a normal conversation?
    Only when used concomitantly.

    Oh my mistake, wrong club!! So hard to keep up with the statements....

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    Apologies if already discussed but what is the 'Only Hearts' tweet mentioned at the end of this story meant to mean?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53778776

    That only Hearts train at the Oriam? Or that only Hearts get stopped from doing so?

    Whatever it means, it must be rather embarrassing for them to have it so well publicised that their supposed 'training academy' is actually just a communal facility that can be booked by anyone. Personally I'm not surprised Heriot-Watt are welcoming the likes of Hull. At least they'll pay for their time there, unlike the funds they'll never recoup from when the yams stiffed them by going into administration.

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    Alloa!

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    Alloa!
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    arbroath
    Not seen their response but I hope it's a classic!

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    I'm going to nip down to my local gym that I pay to use and take a photo of it from outside with the caption "only since452". Seems to be all the rage.

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    Merge with Hull and they could be the biggest team in Hull, doubt the merged team will be called Heart of Midlothian though...


    Why not? They haven't played in Midlothian since 1975, but kept the name anyway.

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    Why not? They haven't played in Midlothian since 1975, but kept the name anyway.
    Obviously Hearts would envisage the grateful population of any English Town or city they decided to merge with to accept that the likes of, say Hull City fans, would appreciate their teams name will be changed to heart of midlothian and they'd be expected to travel to Edinburgh.

    It's a small price to pay for such a bigly famous name.


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    Why don't they just train at Tynecastle if they think it's so imperative that they train two months before their season starts?
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    Why don't they just train at Tynecastle?
    They aren't allowed to train anywhere until the 24th
    It’s the rules for all the wee teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by G B Young View Post
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    Why don't they just train at Tynecastle?
    Doubt that they will be allowed. Don't know why they don't go to England though

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    Leslie Deans says Hearts should play in England and he is "aghast" in todays Scotsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    They aren't allowed to train anywhere until the 24th
    It’s the rules for all the wee teams
    Ah, OK thanks. I had thought the ruling just applied to communal facilities like the Oriam.

    So it's no big deal really? The 24th is a perfectly reasonable start date for clubs who don't start their season until October and I don't imagine any other lower league club was planning on training before then anyway.

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    Ah, OK thanks. I had thought the ruling just applied to communal facilities like the Oriam.

    So it's no big deal really? The 24th is a perfectly reasonable start date for clubs who don't start their season until October and I don't imagine any other lower league club was planning on training before then anyway.
    Don't think they have been. Only Hearts were training.

    Whilst I can see how Hull being allowed to train and Hearts not, can be viewed as being unfair.

    It is worth remembering how funny it is 😀

    I love how different organisations are taking turns trolling them. They remind me of that person you would always wind up because you knew you'd get a reaction everytime.

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    I don't what their problem is. They were given special dispensation to train early because of their court case/arbitration. Now they are being brought into line with the rest of the championship. They had and still have an unfair advantage over the other 9 teams. Whole thing covered up with Budge les and spin.

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    Doubt that they will be allowed. Don't know why they don't go to England though
    Hope they do, and then the Scots Gov announces two week quarantines for anyone travelling from down south 😂

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    Leslie Deans says Hearts should play in England and he is "aghast" in todays Scotsman.
    Leslie Deans is not "aghast"... he's a twat

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    I see Deans is pushing the 'play in England' line. There are rules against that sort of thing.

    Who do they think they are? Oh, yes, I forgot, rules don't apply to them and it's unfair to expect them to comply.

    It used to be funny, now it's just pathetic.

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    Don't think they have been. Only Hearts were training.

    Whilst I can see how Hull being allowed to train and Hearts not, can be viewed as being unfair.

    It is worth remembering how funny it is ��

    I love how different organisations are taking turns trolling them. They remind me of that person you would always wind up because you knew you'd get a reaction everytime.
    I used to work with a guy like that, but the difference was he had a sense of humour so the wind-ups were taken in good part. Po-faced Budge, on the other hand, can't see past the end of her nose and feels compelled to batter out a dissertation-length statement in response to even the merest perceived slight.

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    Leslie Deans says Hearts should play in England and he is "aghast" in todays Scotsman.
    Fully fledged laughing stock.

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    Dean's must be a closet Hibbie. Nobody could say these things with a straight face.

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    Just listened to yesterday's Superscoreboard and Darryl Broadfoot was on and said Hearts players are scheduled to have a holiday from 22nd Aug until 30th Aug and suggested they could just bring the holiday forward therefore only miss out on 1 day of training. He pointed out that it's not as if the players would be booked to fly abroad for the holiday.

    Sounds like a sensible solution however Budge is either not bright enough to think of it or didn't want to pass up an opportunity to put out yet another whinging statement.

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    Leslie, Leslie, Leslie. Oh dearie me. Think he needs help finding the plot. Lost it big time.

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    Hearts, as usual, think the world and their uncle are against them. However they need to start being realistic, I know, I know

    Professor Jason Leitch made it very clear that football is a non essential industry. ‘Elite’ football has been given special dispensation for training and playing games that allow close contact. This sat alongside stringent testing and protocols to be followed. Most other non essential industries face widespread restrictions.

    Hearts do not have a game of football until October, there is simply no justification for their unnecessary training and unnecessary risk of infection in what is a non essential business. Again, as usual, they are aggrieved but simply TOUGH. Stop whinging and get ****ing on with it like millions of people throughout the country.

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