Coronavirus

[Sir David Gray]

767 cases and 61 deaths announced in the UK today.

[Mr Grieves]

This was mentioned on here a few days ago...

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/...358645248?s=20

BREAKING: Govt to announce shortly that tourists in Spain will have to quarantine for two weeks when they return (unless they're back by midnight tonight). Second wave of Covid-19 there has prompted decision to kick Spain off the safe country list

[Sir David Gray]

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This was mentioned on here a few days ago...

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/...358645248?s=20

BREAKING: Govt to announce shortly that tourists in Spain will have to quarantine for two weeks when they return (unless they're back by midnight tonight). Second wave of Covid-19 there has prompted decision to kick Spain off the safe country list

Now confirmed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53540691

[marinello59]

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This was mentioned on here a few days ago...

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/...358645248?s=20

BREAKING: Govt to announce shortly that tourists in Spain will have to quarantine for two weeks when they return (unless they're back by midnight tonight). Second wave of Covid-19 there has prompted decision to kick Spain off the safe country list

Inevitable really. The right decision.

[grunt]

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Now confirmed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53540691

Scotland too imposes quarantine over returners from Spain.

[Sir David Gray]

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Scotland too imposes quarantine over returners from Spain.

Mental it was ever lifted in the first place.

[grunt]

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Mental it was ever lifted in the first place.

Multiple pressures being exerted, I expect.

[marinello59]

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Multiple pressures being exerted, I expect.

A political motivated decision which looked and smelt wrong at the time. Baffling.
Well done to her for correcting it quickly though.

[Rocky]

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Mental it was ever lifted in the first place.

Did it actually get lifted in the end?

[Sir David Gray]

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Did it actually get lifted in the end?

Yes listed here in an article published yesterday;

https://www.gov.scot/news/quarantine...ive-countries/

[Rocky]

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Yes listed here in an article published yesterday;

https://www.gov.scot/news/quarantine...ive-countries/

It's interesting that it's listed there as I never saw the actual lifting announced. I know they said on Monday that it was expected to be announced later in the week. Must have lasted less than a few days! Whatever the underlying reason for lifting it, they look a bit silly now. We could all see the problem five days ago.

[DaveF]

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It's interesting that it's listed there as I never saw the actual lifting announced. I know they said on Monday that it was expected to be announced later in the week. Must have lasted less than a few days! Whatever the underlying reason for lifting it, they look a bit silly now. We could all see the problem five days ago.

It was certainly relaxed as my brother flew back from canary isles on Friday and did not require to quarantine.

[marinello59]

Is this the first time Scottish Government policy has been rapidly changed by a tweet from the First Minister?

[Rocky]

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It was certainly relaxed as my brother flew back from canary isles on Friday and did not require to quarantine.

Slightly cynical but could it be that she wanted to introduce so much uncertainty into international travel that she opened the window for two days just to show what a bad idea international travel is and everyone should stay home?

[lord bunberry]

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It was certainly relaxed as my brother flew back from canary isles on Friday and did not require to quarantine.

I wonder if there could be a case for allowing travell from the Spanish islands to travel without quarantine, I’m not sure if the virus is better or worse there.

[DaveF]

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I wonder if there could be a case for allowing travell from the Spanish islands to travel without quarantine, I’m not sure if the virus is better or worse there.

I looked at an article and there are very few cases in the islands. I think active cases were people coming in or illegal immigrants caught from Africa.

Brother said it was quiet but very well organised with masks and sanitiser in every shop / bar etc.

[ronaldo7]

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Mental it was ever lifted in the first place.

If only the prevelence of the virus in the country hadn't changed. 😂

[Keith_M]

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Mental it was ever lifted in the first place.

In, out, shake it all about.

[hibee_girl]

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I looked at an article and there are very few cases in the islands. I think active cases were people coming in or illegal immigrants caught from Africa.

Brother said it was quiet but very well organised with masks and sanitiser in every shop / bar etc.

Yep, we’re still in Lanzarote and that’s exactly what it’s like.

Bit frustrating to be told we didn’t have to self isolate and now we do but that’s the risk we took.

[ronaldo7]

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Yep, we’re still in Lanzarote and that’s exactly what it’s like.

Bit frustrating to be told we didn’t have to self isolate and now we do but that’s the risk we took.

Exactly. The risk you and others took, was always there. The prevalence of the virus can't be managed by governments. Some personal responsibility has to be taken. It's not like we're impervious to the situation.

Enjoy the rest of your holidays.

[Santa Cruz]

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Yep, we’re still in Lanzarote and that’s exactly what it’s like.

Bit frustrating to be told we didn’t have to self isolate and now we do but that’s the risk we took.

To be fair, it was made clear several times there is always going to be a likelihood this can happen, and to take this into consideration when thinking about going overseas.

Sounds safe enough where you are, enjoy the rest of your break.

[hibee_girl]

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To be fair, it was made clear several times there is always going to be a likelihood this can happen, and to take this into consideration when thinking about going overseas.

Sounds safe enough where you are, enjoy the rest of your break.

Yeah we were well aware this could happen and were 99.9% sure we’d have to self isolate when we got back.

We booked it way back in November and stood to lose money if we didn’t come. At that point the island had no cases at all so felt it was actually safer than being at home.

[ronaldo7]

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Yeah we were well aware this could happen and were 99.9% sure we’d have to self isolate when we got back.

We booked it way back in November and stood to lose money if we didn’t come. At that point the island had no cases at all so felt it was actually safer than being at home.

We should have been cruising from Friday but decided some time ago to cancel. The cruise company then decided to cancel the whole cruise, and it doesn't look like we'll be cruising any time soon.

Italy no more, Malta no more, Maldives no more, invergordon no more.

[Pretty Boy]

No idea how reliable the source material is but this is a potentially interesting development:

https://www.thelocal.ch/20200715/onl...t-face-shields

[RyeSloan]

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No idea how reliable the source material is but this is a potentially interesting development:

https://www.thelocal.ch/20200715/onl...t-face-shields

Strikes me as another case of the bleedin’ obvious.

These face shields leave huge gaps around the face.

There was a piece on the news recently about a hair salon and all the safety things they were doing...the girl being shown in the piece had a face shield on and you were lucky if it actually went down over her mouth. It was patently obvious that it would be doing very little to protect either the wearer or the client.

Seems to me that any droplets would have ample opportunity to exit and enter the space behind the shield.

[Rocky]

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Strikes me as another case of the bleedin’ obvious.

These face shields leave huge gaps around the face.

There was a piece on the news recently about a hair salon and all the safety things they were doing...the girl being shown in the piece had a face shield on and you were lucky if it actually went down over her mouth. It was patently obvious that it would be doing very little to protect either the wearer or the client.

Seems to me that any droplets would have ample opportunity to exit and enter the space behind the shield.

I think the point is we've always been told that masks are only to protect others, not the wearer. If there's substance to this story it suggests masks are also providing protection to the wearer.

[Berwickhibby]

Scottish Government say face shields/visors are acceptable https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ace-coverings/

[Santa Cruz]

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Scottish Government say face shields/visors are acceptable https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ace-coverings/

They offer some eye protection, a face covering is what's going to help reduce the risk of spreading infection. That's why medics wear both together.

Like someone else said, it's pretty obvious the gap between visor and face offers no protection.

[Santa Cruz]

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I think the point is we've always been told that masks are only to protect others, not the wearer. If there's substance to this story it suggests masks are also providing protection to the wearer.

They do if they are medical grade, their's not so much evidence to support cloth face coverings. I'm in the better than nowt camp.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Yep, we’re still in Lanzarote and that’s exactly what it’s like.

Bit frustrating to be told we didn’t have to self isolate and now we do but that’s the risk we took.

In other news transport secretary Grant Shapp flew out to Spain for 2 weeks holiday on Friday. 🤣🇪🇸