(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[EAZY-ME]

[QUOTE=Higgo;6235041]No offence but your post is a jumbled up mess. If you are going to criticise someone’s cognitive impairment at least made an effort to make a lucid argument in relation to it. Your contribution is a disaster

Its not a jumbled up mess at all its just a quick post on hibs.net You just saw someone else criticise me then jumped on the bandwagon..

[lapsedhibee]

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That's because I'm posting a comment on hibs.net and couldn't give a **** about the grammar... im not writing to the queen..

That's the spirit. Take a bit of care for The Queen, but don't bother for hibs.netters. What with her having blue blood and that.

[Ozyhibby]

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Why would they do that now with Biden miles ahead?

Also the democrat convention this year will be a virtual convention. There will be little room for wheeling and dealing. It will be a rubber stamp affair.
The pandemic is perfect for Biden. It means a lot less campaigning, no rally’s night after night. He has to get through three debates and walk round a few factories without mishap and the job is his.


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[hibsbollah]

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Vote 3rd party, get Trump.

The Ralph Nader effect. Vote Ralph, get George W. How was that a sensible vote for protecting the environment?

Ordinarily I’d say it was the responsibility of the Democratic Party to actually engage with working class Americans who have felt ignored by them in recent elections and have abandoned their traditional party, opting for populism as a result (sound familiar?). In reality though, the Democrat lead is now so big across a range of key states that only a disruptive 3rd party entrant or Biden doing something unconscionable will turn the tide. There’s no chance the DP will make any changes to the candidature at this point.

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[Mibbes Aye]

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I think there is zero chance of this. For starters, whilst Biden is far from perfect, all his dirty laundry is (presumably) out in public already given his prior VP role and the extensive vetting of candidates this time round. The American public knows what it's getting - good and bad.

The perception in some quarters is that Cuomo has done well on a single incident (not even a single issue) but his name recognition isn't close to Biden or Trump. The Democrats would effectively be starting from scratch policy-wise with a candidate who hasn't been vetted at this level.

Biden holds a comfortable poll lead over Trump. As long as that holds, there's too much to lose and too little to gain for the Democrats to do anything other than a coronation at their convention. I also think there isn't a chance of the party machine - including donors and interest groups - allowing Biden to step aside now even if he wanted to...which he won't.

I agree and disagree. I think Cuomo has massive name recognition and has the factor that his father was a key figure in the Democratic Party and was always expected to run himself. There is a machine within the machine that would support Cuomo.

On the other hand Biden has the recognition of having been VP. He swings black votes massively, given he is from a very different demographic.

He is no youngster though, and has had his health concerns. I think he can seal the deal at the convention but I also think that Cuomo could potentially win a floor vote. Caution was what stopped his father challenging Clinton. There is something Shakespearean in all this!

Take your point about vetting but also note that Cuomo will have been scrutinised to the nth degree already and Biden has faced allegations, albeit lame, over the last few months

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Its not a jumbled up mess at all its just a quick post on hibs.net You just saw someone else criticise me then jumped on the bandwagon..

Sadly for you it WAS a jumbled up mess and you were rightly called out for it, that happens when you make a **** of yourself, a bit like Trump does on an almost daily basis.

[HNA1]

This forum is a lot nicer for everyone without personal insults. Play nice, folks.

[EAZY-ME]

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This forum is a lot nicer for everyone without personal insults. Play nice, folks.

So if i use stars instead of actual words would that have been OK....

[hibsbollah]

I do love a Beef

[HNA1]

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So if i use stars instead of actual words would that have been OK....

No.

[Ozyhibby]

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Trump heading the way of Pinochet.


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[hibsbollah]

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Trump heading the way of Pinochet.


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Federal militarised police vs redneck local cops. It’s like Mississippi Burning all over again, except the feds are now the bad guys 40 years on.

[Ozyhibby]

Not really related to trump but to do with militarisation, this video clip is the Jalisco drug cartel soldiers in Mexico. Frightening level of armoury they have.

https://twitter.com/hdemauleon/statu...330066432?s=21


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[DaveF]

Trump's pardoned mate
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypos...interview/amp/

[SHODAN]

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Not how triangulation works. He has to take potential Trump voters, the farther to the left will vote for him anyway - because Trump.

Anyway, Biden is romping this atm. Not just in the national polls, in the battleground states as well. Even normally GOP strongholds like Texas are in play. It would be a historically unmatched turnaround for Trump to win from here.

I'm pretty sure polls were saying similar in 2016 and we all know how that went.

[RyeSloan]

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I'm pretty sure polls were saying similar in 2016 and we all know how that went.

The commentary I have read has suggested the polls were quite different (significantly tighter) at this stage in 2016.

Also the incumbent was not running while also rather incompetently (not) dealing with a killer virus, a sinking economy and substantial racial tension.

[Ozyhibby]

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I'm pretty sure polls were saying similar in 2016 and we all know how that went.

Polls in 2016 were nothing like they are now.


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[Mibbes Aye]

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The commentary I have read has suggested the polls were quite different (significantly tighter) at this stage in 2016.

Also the incumbent was not running while also rather incompetently (not) dealing with a killer virus, a sinking economy and substantial racial tension.

This is one example of how his predecessor dealt with substantial racial tension, after the Charleston shootings. You simply can’t see how Trump would ever behave like that.

Edit - better clip because of his preface about’reservoirs of goodness’ but the acoustics aren’t as good. But you still get the sentiment.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S58k3ZXRJJc

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[RyeSloan]

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Wow. If that comes to pass it must be up there in the record books in terms of scale of defeats no?

Trump likes his records tho so maybe he’ll still claim it was the best ever

[Mibbes Aye]

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Wow. If that comes to pass it must be up there in the record books in terms of scale of defeats no?

Trump likes his records tho so maybe he’ll still claim it was the best ever

I am cautiously optimistic. Reagan owns it in recent decades in my opinion. He wiped the floor with Carter and then Mondale in the scale of electoral college votes..

[RyeSloan]

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I am cautiously optimistic. Reagan owns it in recent decades in my opinion. He wiped the floor with Carter and then Mondale in the scale of electoral college votes..

Walter Mondale....has forgotten about him! Just had a quick google on that election result. Jeezus talk about a landslide!

[Mibbes Aye]

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Walter Mondale....has forgotten about him! Just had a quick google on that election result. Jeezus talk about a landslide!

I am friends with someone who went over to work on his campaign and he desribes Walter as a good guy and a nice guy. Also, the first time a woman was on the ticket.

Height of the Cold War though and the Dems never stood a chance.

[Hibernia&Alba]

One day a comprehensive biography of Trump will be written, detailing his entire life of perfidy (step forward David Cay Johnston) when all who support him now will no doubt distance themselves and plead ignorance. There is no such defence, given the countless warnings provided. There is no need for hindsight here; Trump's nefarious existence is known to the world. I only hope he represents the end of all that is pernicious in America, in a final act of desperate defiance, and not the beginning of a darker chapter. One can't help but feel it could go either way; we can only hope his plea to ignorance and intolerance is a manifestation of the death knell of his ilk. Yes, hate is a strong word, but I truly hate Trump and his demagoguery.

[Future17]

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Trump's pardoned mate
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypos...interview/amp/

Almost unbelievable he would say that. Totally believable he would lie about it.

P.S. Minor distinction in this context but Stone wasn't pardoned, he just had his sentence commuted, which he himself seems to have forgotten already.

[stokesmessiah]

Nobody going to mention that Kanye West speech!?

[Keith_M]

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Nobody going to mention that Kanye West speech!?

I was just about to. The guy's totally off his rocker!


I wonder where he's going to get the $1M for every new mother.

Apparently that's his answer to 'solving' abortion.

[EAZY-ME]

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I was just about to. The guy's totally off his rocker!


I wonder where he's going to get the $1M for every new mother.

Apparently that's his answer to 'solving' abortion.

Yup totally lost the plot.... that speech was just nuts. I still think trumps a better candidate than West or biden.

[lapsedhibee]

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Nobody going to mention that Kanye West speech!?

Hope West runs and does really well, splits the lunatic vote and allows someone who's not completely ******* nuts into the White House.