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[Pretty Boy]

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WTF has wearing a poppy got to do with wearing a mask. ex servicemen will do both ..

Then those ex servicemen evidently aren't the target of the joke then.

[Berwickhibby]

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Then those ex servicemen evidently aren't the target of the joke then.

It's not a joke...not even funny ... I actually find the comment crass and insulting to be honest.

[Pretty Boy]

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It's not a joke...not even funny ... I actually find the comment crass and insulting to be honest.

Oh well.

I actually find the alt right types (the actual target of the joke) who have politicised the poppy and are planning to protest against wearing masks crass and insulting so I suppose we're even.

[Santa Cruz]

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I think much of the modelling is based on data from seasonal flu outbreaks. Increased time indoors and in close proximity in winter is one of the drivers behind the spread of flu.

It's quite interesting that we are told we should in no way compare this virus to the flu but much of the modelling around it is based on data from influenza virus outbreaks.

Does anyone else think we might actually see less flu cases this year, given the increased awareness of good hand hygiene, keeping a safe distance and cleaning surfaces? Previously, I don't think there was that much awareness promoted on how to reduce your risk of catching flu other than to get the annual flu jab.

I suppose the main concern this Winter is going to be differentiating between who has flu, covid or the common cold .

[Berwickhibby]

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Oh well.

I actually find the alt right types (the actual target of the joke) who have politicised the poppy and are planning to protest against wearing masks crass and insulting so I suppose we're even.

I support the Royal British Legion or Poppy Scotland and I wear a poppy in the act of Rememberance for the fallen ...I hate anything that hijacks thr legion which is apolitical ...suppose it's like the twats..... putting yes on my countries saltire flag..... So yeah I suppose we are even

[Future17]

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It's not a joke...not even funny ... I actually find the comment crass and insulting to be honest.

It is a joke; whether you find it funny is subjective but it's quite a stretch to find it insulting IMO.

The humour is intended to be derived from the likelihood that the kind of person who would lambast a stranger for not wearing a poppy is the same kind of person as would make a point of refusing to wear a mask. Whilst there is no doubt some irony in that, it's not a comment on ex-service personnel or the poppy cause.

[JeMeSouviens]

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I have been told that there will be a protest in London against the wearing of masks this weekend.

Don’t know why the planks need to come to bloody London to protest. Can’t they stay in Essex or whatever Godforesaken back water they come from.


And I include that twat Desmond Swayne in that.

Also stolen from twitter: apparently Desmond Swayne went on so long his suit came back into fashion.

[JeMeSouviens]

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WTF has wearing a poppy got to do with wearing a mask. ex servicemen will do both ..

Way to miss the point. Service personnel don’t generally harass people for not wearing poppies. “Tommy Robinson” types do.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Does anyone else think we might actually see less flu cases this year, given the increased awareness of good hand hygiene, keeping a safe distance and cleaning surfaces? Previously, I don't think there was that much awareness promoted on how to reduce your risk of catching flu other than to get the annual flu jab.

I suppose the main concern this Winter is going to be differentiating between who has flu, covid or the common cold .

Yes, think you’re right. I also think there’s going to be a bigger than usual flu jab drive to try and relieve nhs pressure coming from that.

[Ozyhibby]

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I have been told that there will be a protest in London against the wearing of masks this weekend.

Don’t know why the planks need to come to bloody London to protest. Can’t they stay in Essex or whatever Godforesaken back water they come from.


And I include that twat Desmond Swayne in that.

To be fair, as it’s all the same people, they can protect the statues while they are there.


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[Berwickhibby]

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Way to miss the point. Service personnel don’t generally harass people for not wearing poppies. “Tommy Robinson” types do.

Then why even bring wearing poppies into it. The subject is face coverings.

[Smartie]

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Then why even bring wearing poppies into it. The subject is face coverings.

The subject is "roasters who manipulate perfectly reasonable stuff for reasons of pursuing a questionable agenda."

The poppy has, sadly, been hijacked by these roasters and turned into something different in the eyes of many to the genuine, proper thing that it was meant to represent, that it once did represent - although something that it clearly still does represent to you and many others.

The people who have done this will inevitably be the same people who will be seeking to do the same with facemasks.

Your enemies here are the Tommy Robinsons more than those who have taken a resultant distaste to the symbol.

[heretoday]

The buses going past my house don't seem to contain many mask-wearers. Folk seem to be behaving in shops though.

[Glory Lurker]

Where are we with cancer screening? Hopefully getting back up towards normal service?

[HH81]

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398 cases and 138 deaths registered in the UK since yesterday.

There is far too many deaths in England getting registered too late. Hospital deaths in last 24 hours were 5 with a total of 26. Of these one of them were in May.

The reporting is way out still.

[Mon Dieu4]

This will be fun, I thought I'd be clever and get to the barber at 7.10am thinking I'd get in early, there were 5 people outside and 2 inside, looks like my mop is staying a bit longer

[Sir David Gray]

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Where are we with cancer screening? Hopefully getting back up towards normal service?

Breast screening is still to resume at all unfortunately but there was an announcement on Monday that people would "slowly" begin to receive invitations from 13th July and the screening programme itself was to restart on 3rd August.

Anyone who had a cervical screening appointment before the lockdown or was due to make an appointment could make an appointment from 29th June and letters were going out as of 13th July.

https://www.gov.scot/news/breast-can...ing-to-resume/

[Smartie]

On my first bus since early March (cut it too fine to walk to work).

The bus driver isn’t wearing a mask.

Surely of all people he should be?

So far every passenger has had one on.

[Santa Cruz]

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On my first bus since early March (cut it too fine to walk to work).

The bus driver isn’t wearing a mask.

Surely of all people he should be?

So far every passenger has had one on.

Read somewhere, as the driver is behind a protective screen, it is not required. Same applies in Retail.

[Smartie]

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Read somewhere, as the driver is behind a protective screen, it is not required. Same applies in Retail.

Hmmmmm. Ok.

Were the London bus drivers who died not behind screens?

[Scouse Hibee]

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This will be fun, I thought I'd be clever and get to the barber at 7.10am thinking I'd get in early, there were 5 people outside and 2 inside, looks like my mop is staying a bit longer

My barber has started appointments only for now, 8am Saturday for me 😁

[Santa Cruz]

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Hmmmmm. Ok.

Were the London bus drivers who died not behind screens?

More than likely, I would think the problem was the passengers were not wearing face coverings.

I actually think they should wear them, and hope they are given the option for their own personal safety if they are not confident the screen provides enough protection.

[lapsedhibee]

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More than likely, I would think the problem was the passengers were not wearing face coverings.

I actually think they should wear them, and hope they are given the option for their own personal safety if they are not confident the screen provides enough protection.

But the drivers wearing masks wouldn't be for their own personal safety. It'd be for the passengers' safety.

[Sir David Gray]

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Read somewhere, as the driver is behind a protective screen, it is not required. Same applies in Retail.

Correct, bus drivers are exempt whilst driving the bus but if they go to help someone get on/off the bus then they should wear one.

[Santa Cruz]

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But the drivers wearing masks wouldn't be for their own personal safety. It'd be for the passengers' safety.

I understand the point you're making. I'm assuming here that the risk assessment has taken account that the screen they sit behind along with the fact they are socially distanced from passengers is seen as sufficient mitigations.

[Hibrandenburg]

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On my first bus since early March (cut it too fine to walk to work).

The bus driver isn’t wearing a mask.

Surely of all people he should be?

So far every passenger has had one on.

Isn't he sat behind plexiglass and is pretty much guaranteed a safe social distance from others?

[Hibrandenburg]

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But the drivers wearing masks wouldn't be for their own personal safety. It'd be for the passengers' safety.

I'm absolutely gobsmacked that there still seems to be misconceptions on why masks are necessary. I was talking to 2 ladies yesterday who refused to wear masks. The central point of their argumentation was that if I'm wearing a mask then why should they have to wear a mask for my and other's protection? There's no talking to stupid.

[Peevemor]

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Isn't he sat behind plexiglass and is pretty much guaranteed a safe social distance from others?

Exactly.

We all know that wearing a mask can be uncomfortable, restrict breathing a bit, steam up specs, etc. I'd rather keep professional drivers as comfortable and as unrestricted as possible so they can concentrate on the road. They're fine behind their perspex.

[Smartie]

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Isn't he sat behind plexiglass and is pretty much guaranteed a safe social distance from others?

I’m sure the shield will provide a substantial risk reduction, but more and more we’re learning about the airborne transmission of the virus. For all they are behind a shield, there will be air exchange with the rest of the bus. Doors opening and closing will provide an air exchange but I think I’d be wanting to wear a mask whilst sitting in an enclosed space, shield or no shield.

They come into contact with lots of people so their chances of encountering an infected individual will be higher than average.

I guess I’m getting a bit neurotic. I’d vowed not to go on public transport for a while and so it was a bit alarming when the first person I encountered was a driver not wearing a mask.

FWIW the bus was very quiet, considering it was a number 22 at 8:30am in a restricted service going from Leith up into town - certainly compared to “normal”.

[BroxburnHibee]

My concern is a few months ago we were advised that masks did nothing. I found that advice ridiculous as it seemed common sense that a face covering could at least reduce the risk of passing on the virus.

Now there is growing noises on the virus potentially being airborne? Do we wait for confirmation or just reduce our risks ourselves.

I'm not going anywhere near a plane until I know a lot more.