Holidays

[offshorehibby]

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My holiday to Zante on the 18th June got cancelled today. Hoping Jet2 will give us a refund no probs.

I am still waiting on my refund for 1st of June flights but know they are on their way. The first email we received was giving you the option to amend your booking if you wanted or telling you to hang on for a refund if you preferred. Email 2 came a few days later advising 'We will automatically refund the total cost of your booking. This will be credited to the card you paid with within the next 28 days.'.

A 3rd email arrived a few days after that with documentation for our 3 return tickets.

[Colr]

One thing that maybe passes people in Scotland by but completely befuddles me is airlines stopping flights so certain holiday destinations (e.g. Corfu but lots of others as well) at the end of October.

That means they fly out at the start of the October mid term but don’t offer any return flights thus ruling these locations out for many.

Scottish mid-term is earlier but it seams incredibly stupid timetabling. Almost like they don’t know their own market!!

Is there a rational explanation?

[AugustaHibs]

Me and my partner are going away on 25th July for two weeks but due to being in NHS we can change up to 48 hours prior for no extra cost. Does anyone know where would be the place to go? Regarding least strict rules etc. We were thinking turkey but I’m struggling to find info on their Covid rules online? Thanks

[Sir David Gray]

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Me and my partner are going away on 25th July for two weeks but due to being in NHS we can change up to 48 hours prior for no extra cost. Does anyone know where would be the place to go? Regarding least strict rules etc. We were thinking turkey but I’m struggling to find info on their Covid rules online? Thanks

Turkey rules;

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-requirements

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/turkey

[HappyAsHellas]

Greece and the islands re open to direct flights from the UK on Wednesday. Some restrictions like wearing masks etc.

[AugustaHibs]

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Greece and the islands re open to direct flights from the UK on Wednesday. Some restrictions like wearing masks etc.

wear masks at all times?

[Sir David Gray]

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wear masks at all times?

Greece sounds like a hassle;

Entry to Greece
You must complete an online Passenger Locator Form (PLF) at least 48 hours before your arrival in Greece. The form is online, in English. Once you have completed the form, you will receive a QR code (which you can display either on your mobile phone, or on a printed piece of paper). You will need to show this code to the Greek authorities on your arrival in Greece.

When you arrive in Greece, the Greek authorities will scan the QR code generated when you completed the PLF form, and may direct you for health screening (including testing for coronavirus). The Greek authorities’ instructions will differ according to whether you arrive by land, sea or air. Check out the requirements that will apply to you on the PLF form page.

You must wear a face mask at all times when on an aeroplane or ferry travelling to or from Greece; and whilst at airports.

Greece’s borders with most neighbouring countries (Turkey, Albania and North Macedonia) are closed to passenger traffic. The border with Bulgaria is open.

Testing and quarantine
The Greek authorities may require you to undergo testing for coronavirus, as part of health screening after you arrive in Greece. Any passenger entering Greece is liable to be asked to undergo a test, but you are likely to be asked if you have arrived from a country outside of the EU (including the UK), either directly or via indirect flights.

If you are a British national who lives permanently within the EU, or have been in another EU country for some time before travelling on to Greece, you may be asked to prove that you have not recently travelled from the UK.

After testing, you will need to self-isolate at the address given on your PLF form, filled out prior to your arrival in Greece. You will be contacted by the Greek authorities with your test results, and given further instructions (e.g. whether you are free to leave your accommodation, or must self-isolate for a longer period). If your test result is negative, you will no longer need to self-isolate. If your test result is positive, the Greek authorities are likely to ask you to self-isolate in government-provided accommodation for 14 days.

You must comply with all instructions given by the Greek authorities. Failure to do so may result in you being refused permission to enter Greece and/or legal enforcement.

You should also be aware that if other passengers on your flight subsequently test positive, you may be subject to further quarantine/self isolation requirements. These will be mandatory and you should comply with the Greek Authorities’ requirements.

British nationals are not affected by the European Union’s measures to close EU borders to non-EU country nationals. If you’re a British national, you can still enter Greece, but you must comply with the Greek authorities’ requirements, including on testing and self-isolation.

[overdrive]

Booked a cottage just outside Windemere for the end of August for 4 nights. We were really struggling to find self catering availability in the UK.

We looked at going to various places in Northern Ireland and were about to book somewhere but then looked at the ferries... almost £400! Is that the normal going rate for the ferry??

[LancashireHibby]

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Me and my partner are going away on 25th July for two weeks but due to being in NHS we can change up to 48 hours prior for no extra cost. Does anyone know where would be the place to go? Regarding least strict rules etc. We were thinking turkey but I’m struggling to find info on their Covid rules online? Thanks

We’re booked for Tenerife from 1st August. Temperature taken before the flight and mask to be worn on the plane but that’s no different to when I went in the Apple store last week. Hotel is encouraging masks in common areas (swimming pool/loungers and restaurants excepted) and masks are compulsory in shops (and you must have one with you at all times by the sounds of it, even if not necessarily wearing it). There was an article the other day in the Manchester Evening News elsewhere in Spain that reckoned things were “85% normal” so that’ll do for me.

[Future17]

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We’re booked for Tenerife from 1st August. Temperature taken before the flight and mask to be worn on the plane but that’s no different to when I went in the Apple store last week. Hotel is encouraging masks in common areas (swimming pool/loungers and restaurants excepted) and masks are compulsory in shops (and you must have one with you at all times by the sounds of it, even if not necessarily wearing it). There was an article the other day in the Manchester Evening News elsewhere in Spain that reckoned things were “85% normal” so that’ll do for me.

Yeah, but was that normal for Manchester or actual normal?

[LancashireHibby]

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Yeah, but was that normal for Manchester or actual normal?

A fair point. Though if normality means seeing someone out of his nut on spice crawling across Piccadilly Gardens at half 8 in a morning then I'll take it with both hands.

[sleeping giant]

Just had to sign a form for work stating that i am aware if i go abroad for holidays , I agree to comply with any quaratine rules upon my return.
If any employees have to quaratine after a holiday , they wont be paid.

[Colr]

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Greece sounds like a hassle;

Entry to Greece
You must complete an online Passenger Locator Form (PLF) at least 48 hours before your arrival in Greece. The form is online, in English. Once you have completed the form, you will receive a QR code (which you can display either on your mobile phone, or on a printed piece of paper). You will need to show this code to the Greek authorities on your arrival in Greece.

When you arrive in Greece, the Greek authorities will scan the QR code generated when you completed the PLF form, and may direct you for health screening (including testing for coronavirus). The Greek authorities’ instructions will differ according to whether you arrive by land, sea or air. Check out the requirements that will apply to you on the PLF form page.

You must wear a face mask at all times when on an aeroplane or ferry travelling to or from Greece; and whilst at airports.

Greece’s borders with most neighbouring countries (Turkey, Albania and North Macedonia) are closed to passenger traffic. The border with Bulgaria is open.

Testing and quarantine
The Greek authorities may require you to undergo testing for coronavirus, as part of health screening after you arrive in Greece. Any passenger entering Greece is liable to be asked to undergo a test, but you are likely to be asked if you have arrived from a country outside of the EU (including the UK), either directly or via indirect flights.

If you are a British national who lives permanently within the EU, or have been in another EU country for some time before travelling on to Greece, you may be asked to prove that you have not recently travelled from the UK.

After testing, you will need to self-isolate at the address given on your PLF form, filled out prior to your arrival in Greece. You will be contacted by the Greek authorities with your test results, and given further instructions (e.g. whether you are free to leave your accommodation, or must self-isolate for a longer period). If your test result is negative, you will no longer need to self-isolate. If your test result is positive, the Greek authorities are likely to ask you to self-isolate in government-provided accommodation for 14 days.

You must comply with all instructions given by the Greek authorities. Failure to do so may result in you being refused permission to enter Greece and/or legal enforcement.

You should also be aware that if other passengers on your flight subsequently test positive, you may be subject to further quarantine/self isolation requirements. These will be mandatory and you should comply with the Greek Authorities’ requirements.

British nationals are not affected by the European Union’s measures to close EU borders to non-EU country nationals. If you’re a British national, you can still enter Greece, but you must comply with the Greek authorities’ requirements, including on testing and self-isolation.

Obviously, this doesn’t apply to Stanley Johnson.

[Sir David Gray]

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Obviously, this doesn’t apply to Stanley Johnson.

He went via Bulgaria to avoid Greece's rules on arrivals from the UK.

[Sir David Gray]

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Just had to sign a form for work stating that i am aware if i go abroad for holidays , I agree to comply with any quaratine rules upon my return.
If any employees have to quaratine after a holiday , they wont be paid.

What about if your holiday was booked pre-pandemic?

That seems extremely harsh considering you would potentially lose thousands of pounds if you cancel a holiday that was still going ahead.

[Future17]

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A fair point. Though if normality means seeing someone out of his nut on spice crawling across Piccadilly Gardens at half 8 in a morning then I'll take it with both hands.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Just had to sign a form for work stating that i am aware if i go abroad for holidays , I agree to comply with any quaratine rules upon my return.
If any employees have to quaratine after a holiday , they wont be paid.

I wonder if a doctor would sign a sick line for you in these circumstances.

[calumhibee1]

Looking into going to Nice in a few weeks. Looks like a fairly viable option.

[sleeping giant]

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What about if your holiday was booked pre-pandemic?

That seems extremely harsh considering you would potentially lose thousands of pounds if you cancel a holiday that was still going ahead.

I wasn't really surprised and thought this would be commonplace.
It doesnt effect me this year anyway.

[Sir David Gray]

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I wasn't really surprised and thought this would be commonplace.
It doesnt effect me this year anyway.

I'm due to go away at the end of September for a holiday that's been booked since January. If the flight's operating at the hotel's open then I'll be going otherwise I'm out of pocket. I'd be shocked if my work didn't take that into account.

Fair enough if you've booked a holiday in the last couple of months but I don't really know why anyone would do that if they have work commitments.

[Colr]

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He went via Bulgaria to avoid Greece's rules on arrivals from the UK.

So indirectly from the UK. He was in breach of the guidelines.

[Berwickhibby]

Has anyone else had problems getting refunds from airlines, Icelandair cancelled flights for June and refuse to refund money only offering credit vouchers ...after many calls I am now taking them through the small claims court. I will never use them again

[Dalianwanda]

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Has anyone else had problems getting refunds from airlines, Icelandair cancelled flights for June and refuse to refund money only offering credit vouchers ...after many calls I am now taking them through the small claims court. I will never use them again

Ive still nothing back from a flight to Spain & a flight to Edinburgh back in August....A good reminder to chase them again today!

[StevieC]

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Has anyone else had problems getting refunds from airlines, Icelandair cancelled flights for June and refuse to refund money only offering credit vouchers ...after many calls I am now taking them through the small claims court. I will never use them again

Took about 3 months to get airline refunds, but got them now. Both tried to palm off with vouchers initially, and some small incentives to do this, but stuck to my guns for refunds and eventually got them.

Hotels also took a bit of chasing before eventually paying out.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Has anyone else had problems getting refunds from airlines, Icelandair cancelled flights for June and refuse to refund money only offering credit vouchers ...after many calls I am now taking them through the small claims court. I will never use them again

Airlines are breathing out of their ***** at the moment. People paying them money for flights that might never take place is what's keeping many of them afloat. My airline has started flying again and with a few exceptions they're flying almost empty aircraft around the place. They need to do this to keep their crew qualified, if they don't then there will be no one to fly their aircraft when markets improve. It's akin to burning money.

[Berwickhibby]

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Airlines are breathing out of their ***** at the moment. People paying them money for flights that might never take place is what's keeping many of them afloat. My airline has started flying again and with a few exceptions they're flying almost empty aircraft around the place. They need to do this to keep their crew qualified, if they don't then there will be no one to fly their aircraft when markets improve. It's akin to burning money.

Problem is, it's akin to burning MY money which I could really do with now as I my business has been unable to trade since March.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Problem is, it's akin to burning MY money which I could really do with now as I my business has been unable to trade since March.

I'm by no means claiming what they're doing is correct. It's merely an explanation as to why they're trying to avoid refunding. Many of them, especially the smaller ones simply don't have any cash left. Good luck with your claim.

[HibbyDave]

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Has anyone else had problems getting refunds from airlines, Icelandair cancelled flights for June and refuse to refund money only offering credit vouchers ...after many calls I am now taking them through the small claims court. I will never use them again

Hi Berwick, did you book using credit card? If so I think you can ask for a refund from the card provider under a clause about failure to deliver goods or services paid for.
Good luck getting it sorted.

[Berwickhibby]

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Hi Berwick, did you book using credit card? If so I think you can ask for a refund from the card provider under a clause about failure to deliver goods or services paid for.
Good luck getting it sorted.

Thanks Dave, unfortunately I paid with a debit card so there is no right to charge back, I have spoken to my bank and apparently I am not alone. My only hope is through the small claims court and I started proceedings and a citation was served at their London office.

[Colr]

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Airlines are breathing out of their ***** at the moment. People paying them money for flights that might never take place is what's keeping many of them afloat. My airline has started flying again and with a few exceptions they're flying almost empty aircraft around the place. They need to do this to keep their crew qualified, if they don't then there will be no one to fly their aircraft when markets improve. It's akin to burning money.

There was an article about this on Radio 4 this morning. Simon Calder was commenting I think. It was before 9:30 so probably the Today Programme. You might be able to get it on catch up.