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Posted by Firsttimecaller on Kickback. He won’t last long in there.


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I'm aware this is an essay, but nevermind!

It’s come to the point where I feel I can’t stand by any more. A reality check needs to kick-in at some point here.

At the time when the league was suspended, Hearts were bottom. They were beaten 1-0 by St Mirren in a game which the vast majority of Hearts supporters, and everyone else, had labelled as “must win”. Hearts didn’t win this game, and were therefore four points adrift at the bottom of the table with eight games to play. Hearts had won four games all season. The performance at St Mirren was described variously as “meek”, “insipid” and “lacking threat”. Hearts nearest rivals for relegation were unbeaten in their last five home matches and had kept clean sheets in four of those.

Hearts supporters shared the view that, from a sporting point of view, they were the worst team in the league. On 14th March, under the title of “At What point Did You Think Our Season Was Doomed?”, various posters on JKB acknowledged how poor Hearts were. Saughton Jambo, who has recently been noticeably vocal around fairness with regards to the Court of Session case, pointed out “This is worse than the 80-81 season [when Hearts were relegated]. We had an excuse back then... we don’t now”. Stan pointed out that “Going 3 down to Killie after the break … was the last chance to turn the corner and finish the season well”. Famous 1874 said that “It’s hard to say when we were doomed as we’ve been s***e all season bar a handful of results”. In a poll on the 14th March on JKB, 12.8% of Hearts own fans acknowledged that they deserved to be relegated.

From a sporting perspective, Hearts were the worst football team in the league. In the match thread following the St Mirren defeat, the overall mood was disappointment and acknowledgment of how poor a team they were. In that match thread, Fozzyonthefence noted prior to the defeat “Lose on Wednesday and we’re down. I think you’re the only person on here that doesn’t think that” in response to a poster suggesting they could stay up. JimmyCant pointed out that “We’ve got 5 key games left … We’ll need to win 4 out of those 5. That’s becoming a big ask the more you look at it.” Bear in mind, this is a Hearts team that had won four times all season.

On sporting merit, Hearts deserved to be relegated.

There is also the worrying trend emerging around Hearts supporters expressly hoping for negative outcomes for other clubs whilst at the same time becoming noticeably vocal around the concept of fairness. There is the startling example of the post on the aforementioned St Mirren matchday thread of a poster highlighting how funny it would be to beat St Mirren, sending them bottom, and then for the season to be called due to COVID19. I’m fairly certain the poster in question has had this particular post copy/pasted several times, and so I’ll spare them the reminder of it. This schadenfreude has now been replaced by hoping that other clubs go into administration, seemingly based on the assumption that they “voted against Hearts” in order to relegate them.

Throughout various threads, numerous assertions have been made as to which clubs people would like to go into administration. The thread titled “Administration” from 26th June notes that some fans believe that “quite a few” will suffer this fate and that Hearts should “Get that interdict served ASAP”. Amongst others, Dundee, Hibs, St Mirren, Ross County, Hamilton and Albion Rovers are all named as clubs that posters hope enter administration, a process which results in numerous job losses and can end in financial hardship for ordinary employees. It’s noteworthy that several of these clubs were Hearts rivals within the bottom six of the league.Thank goodness for the few comments of common sense on such matters, notably Sassenach, who said “I've suffered admin events … It's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on any fellow football fans”. Some things surely transcend sport.

The matter of finance also comes into play in issue. Hearts suffered a previous administration event, ultimately leading to their relegation in the 2010s. This was caused largely by financial mismanagement. Within their list of creditors, Hearts included fellow football clubs Ayr United, Livingston, Musselburgh Athletic, Stenhousemuir and Rangers. They also owed monies to a variety of public bodies, including the City of Edinburgh Council, Scottish Water and Scottish Police Authority. There are no winners in administration events. Supporter boycotts of all clubs who voted against Hearts league reconstruction proposals have been widely mentioned online.

To a significant extent, supporters of other clubs (the Pie & Bovril forum is a marker of this) do sympathise with the situation in which Hearts currently find themselves, but many have expressed a significant distaste for the sense of entitlement being displayed. Under the JKB thread of “Wigan Go Into Administration”, posters note that there may be “decent freebies to be had” and that this is “karma for Webstergate”. The irony and understanding of the concept of karma and justice for perceived previous wrongdoings is an interesting one.

Similarly, the suggestion that Dundee United are a target of Hearts fans’ dislike appears to be an interesting perspective. Taken from the thread last week on JKB “I Used To Post On Here About Liking Dundee Utd”, Salad Fingers notes that he/she “recently developed a strong hatred of them and their fans”. The supposed crime committed by Dundee United is defending themselves and their promotion in the Court of Session and being asked to pay £50,000 for the privilege.

The thread posted this morning on JKB titled “Merging Clubs” highlights and reinforces the prevailing sense of entitlement amongst posters on the site, perhaps representative of the wider Hearts support. The assertion from Space Pirate that there are “far too many wee diddy clubs” and that clubs should merge underlines the contempt in which other clubs in Scotland are held.

As it stands, the hugely successful Foundation of Hearts brings circa £2M into the club each year from fans and it has been revealed that James Anderson has acted as a benefactor over recent times. During this time, Hearts have spent £17M on a main stand within Tynecastle and this is yet to be fully completed. During the recent Court of Session case, various figures of compensation have been raised and noted, both on JKB and within the Scottish media. It has been suggested that Hearts are seeking compensation and damages in the region of £8M.

Following on from the Court of Session hearing, Hearts supporters are seemingly painting the club, and Ann Budge in particular, as champions of justice, noting that there is a crucial role to be played in fighting corruption. Indeed, it has been suggested that Ann Budge previously stepped down from her role on the SPFL Board as she wanted to challenge the corruption that she saw. Reporting of the matter would seem to indicate otherwise - https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...l-board-583624

Throughout this process since March, there has been much play with regards to revisionism. The term relegated has been replaced with expelled, for instance. Interestingly, manager Daniel Stendal’s contract reputably had a clause allowing it’s termination in the event of relegation, as confirmed by both Ann Budge and Daniel Stendal. This clause was enacted. The tone and portrayal of Ann Budge has shifted too. Compare the descriptions with regards to her perceived leadership skills that were expressed on JKB during January and February to now.

Before Hearts continue to fall further down the rabbit hole of blaming other people, clubs and institutions, perhaps the blame needs to lie closer to home.


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That is utterly brilliant and all very true. Surely he/she's been punted

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That is utterly brilliant and all very true. Surely he/she's been punted

He/she will be getting abuse for the rest of the day.


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Posted by Firsttimecaller on Kickback. He won’t last long in there.


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I'm aware this is an essay, but nevermind!

It’s come to the point where I feel I can’t stand by any more. A reality check needs to kick-in at some point here.

At the time when the league was suspended, Hearts were bottom. They were beaten 1-0 by St Mirren in a game which the vast majority of Hearts supporters, and everyone else, had labelled as “must win”. Hearts didn’t win this game, and were therefore four points adrift at the bottom of the table with eight games to play. Hearts had won four games all season. The performance at St Mirren was described variously as “meek”, “insipid” and “lacking threat”. Hearts nearest rivals for relegation were unbeaten in their last five home matches and had kept clean sheets in four of those.

Hearts supporters shared the view that, from a sporting point of view, they were the worst team in the league. On 14th March, under the title of “At What point Did You Think Our Season Was Doomed?”, various posters on JKB acknowledged how poor Hearts were. Saughton Jambo, who has recently been noticeably vocal around fairness with regards to the Court of Session case, pointed out “This is worse than the 80-81 season [when Hearts were relegated]. We had an excuse back then... we don’t now”. Stan pointed out that “Going 3 down to Killie after the break … was the last chance to turn the corner and finish the season well”. Famous 1874 said that “It’s hard to say when we were doomed as we’ve been s***e all season bar a handful of results”. In a poll on the 14th March on JKB, 12.8% of Hearts own fans acknowledged that they deserved to be relegated.

From a sporting perspective, Hearts were the worst football team in the league. In the match thread following the St Mirren defeat, the overall mood was disappointment and acknowledgment of how poor a team they were. In that match thread, Fozzyonthefence noted prior to the defeat “Lose on Wednesday and we’re down. I think you’re the only person on here that doesn’t think that” in response to a poster suggesting they could stay up. JimmyCant pointed out that “We’ve got 5 key games left … We’ll need to win 4 out of those 5. That’s becoming a big ask the more you look at it.” Bear in mind, this is a Hearts team that had won four times all season.

On sporting merit, Hearts deserved to be relegated.

There is also the worrying trend emerging around Hearts supporters expressly hoping for negative outcomes for other clubs whilst at the same time becoming noticeably vocal around the concept of fairness. There is the startling example of the post on the aforementioned St Mirren matchday thread of a poster highlighting how funny it would be to beat St Mirren, sending them bottom, and then for the season to be called due to COVID19. I’m fairly certain the poster in question has had this particular post copy/pasted several times, and so I’ll spare them the reminder of it. This schadenfreude has now been replaced by hoping that other clubs go into administration, seemingly based on the assumption that they “voted against Hearts” in order to relegate them.

Throughout various threads, numerous assertions have been made as to which clubs people would like to go into administration. The thread titled “Administration” from 26th June notes that some fans believe that “quite a few” will suffer this fate and that Hearts should “Get that interdict served ASAP”. Amongst others, Dundee, Hibs, St Mirren, Ross County, Hamilton and Albion Rovers are all named as clubs that posters hope enter administration, a process which results in numerous job losses and can end in financial hardship for ordinary employees. It’s noteworthy that several of these clubs were Hearts rivals within the bottom six of the league.Thank goodness for the few comments of common sense on such matters, notably Sassenach, who said “I've suffered admin events … It's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on any fellow football fans”. Some things surely transcend sport.

The matter of finance also comes into play in issue. Hearts suffered a previous administration event, ultimately leading to their relegation in the 2010s. This was caused largely by financial mismanagement. Within their list of creditors, Hearts included fellow football clubs Ayr United, Livingston, Musselburgh Athletic, Stenhousemuir and Rangers. They also owed monies to a variety of public bodies, including the City of Edinburgh Council, Scottish Water and Scottish Police Authority. There are no winners in administration events. Supporter boycotts of all clubs who voted against Hearts league reconstruction proposals have been widely mentioned online.

To a significant extent, supporters of other clubs (the Pie & Bovril forum is a marker of this) do sympathise with the situation in which Hearts currently find themselves, but many have expressed a significant distaste for the sense of entitlement being displayed. Under the JKB thread of “Wigan Go Into Administration”, posters note that there may be “decent freebies to be had” and that this is “karma for Webstergate”. The irony and understanding of the concept of karma and justice for perceived previous wrongdoings is an interesting one.

Similarly, the suggestion that Dundee United are a target of Hearts fans’ dislike appears to be an interesting perspective. Taken from the thread last week on JKB “I Used To Post On Here About Liking Dundee Utd”, Salad Fingers notes that he/she “recently developed a strong hatred of them and their fans”. The supposed crime committed by Dundee United is defending themselves and their promotion in the Court of Session and being asked to pay £50,000 for the privilege.

The thread posted this morning on JKB titled “Merging Clubs” highlights and reinforces the prevailing sense of entitlement amongst posters on the site, perhaps representative of the wider Hearts support. The assertion from Space Pirate that there are “far too many wee diddy clubs” and that clubs should merge underlines the contempt in which other clubs in Scotland are held.

As it stands, the hugely successful Foundation of Hearts brings circa £2M into the club each year from fans and it has been revealed that James Anderson has acted as a benefactor over recent times. During this time, Hearts have spent £17M on a main stand within Tynecastle and this is yet to be fully completed. During the recent Court of Session case, various figures of compensation have been raised and noted, both on JKB and within the Scottish media. It has been suggested that Hearts are seeking compensation and damages in the region of £8M.

Following on from the Court of Session hearing, Hearts supporters are seemingly painting the club, and Ann Budge in particular, as champions of justice, noting that there is a crucial role to be played in fighting corruption. Indeed, it has been suggested that Ann Budge previously stepped down from her role on the SPFL Board as she wanted to challenge the corruption that she saw. Reporting of the matter would seem to indicate otherwise - https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...l-board-583624

Throughout this process since March, there has been much play with regards to revisionism. The term relegated has been replaced with expelled, for instance. Interestingly, manager Daniel Stendal’s contract reputably had a clause allowing it’s termination in the event of relegation, as confirmed by both Ann Budge and Daniel Stendal. This clause was enacted. The tone and portrayal of Ann Budge has shifted too. Compare the descriptions with regards to her perceived leadership skills that were expressed on JKB during January and February to now.

Before Hearts continue to fall further down the rabbit hole of blaming other people, clubs and institutions, perhaps the blame needs to lie closer to home.


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Well said that Hibee, they will be spitting feathers and that poster will now have been punted

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That is utterly brilliant and all very true. Surely he/she's been punted

The problem here is that someone is trying to talk some sense into the maroon balloons. A truly thankless and pointless task.

The only response to Hearts is to stick your fingers in your ears and say LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU over and over until the sound of their bleating fades away. It will eventually - the top flight will kick off again soon, we will be back to talking about football, and no one will miss Hearts very much.

The noise will increase again when it’s semi final time, but all we can do is beat them and send them away with new grievances to complain about.

In short: f*** Hearts, I’m bored of them.

[MrSmith]

That was awesome 👏 someone spent a lot of time and effort in putting that together. The quotes really underpin their perceived ‘big’ club hypocrisy while displaying their small insular club mentality.

[matty_f]

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That was awesome 👏 someone spent a lot of time and effort in putting that together. The quotes really underpin their perceived ‘big’ club hypocrisy while displaying their small insular club mentality.

It’s outstanding. The fact they’ve backed up every point along the way makes it very hard to counter.

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That Leckie piece is excellent. I feel a statement coming in response

Was just thinking the same as I read the article...and you can be sure Budge's rambling response will be at least double the length of Leckie's laser-sharp piece.

[weecounty hibby]

He will be abused relentlessly for that. No matter how much of a reasoned argument that is he will already have been tagged as a bitter, spoon burning, vermin. 5-1 and all that

[Keith_M]

I thought this part of Bill Leckie's article really sums it up...

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"As if this wasn’t heavy-handed enough, Budge then nicked Robbie Neilson from Tannadice as her new manager — a hefty investment which, along with the deal to bring Gordon in from Celtic, is an almighty boot in the stones for every employee forced into a drop in wages when Budge pleaded poverty."


"I know Jambos fans will be sick of reading this, maybe even as sick as I am of writing it, but it has to be put on record that, despite dominating the headlines for pretty much all of these 115 locked-down days, their club have produced not one positive, winning idea."


"Good God, even when the hugely-generous James Anderson offered a donation of millions to make sure no clubs went down the pan, all Budge had to do was introduce him to Neil Doncaster and let them shake hands, but even then she managed to turn it into a fight."
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Funnily enough, we've been saying the same things on here for weeks.

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Posted by Firsttimecaller on Kickback. He won’t last long in there.


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I'm aware this is an essay, but nevermind!

It’s come to the point where I feel I can’t stand by any more. A reality check needs to kick-in at some point here.

At the time when the league was suspended, Hearts were bottom. They were beaten 1-0 by St Mirren in a game which the vast majority of Hearts supporters, and everyone else, had labelled as “must win”. Hearts didn’t win this game, and were therefore four points adrift at the bottom of the table with eight games to play. Hearts had won four games all season. The performance at St Mirren was described variously as “meek”, “insipid” and “lacking threat”. Hearts nearest rivals for relegation were unbeaten in their last five home matches and had kept clean sheets in four of those.

Hearts supporters shared the view that, from a sporting point of view, they were the worst team in the league. On 14th March, under the title of “At What point Did You Think Our Season Was Doomed?”, various posters on JKB acknowledged how poor Hearts were. Saughton Jambo, who has recently been noticeably vocal around fairness with regards to the Court of Session case, pointed out “This is worse than the 80-81 season [when Hearts were relegated]. We had an excuse back then... we don’t now”. Stan pointed out that “Going 3 down to Killie after the break … was the last chance to turn the corner and finish the season well”. Famous 1874 said that “It’s hard to say when we were doomed as we’ve been s***e all season bar a handful of results”. In a poll on the 14th March on JKB, 12.8% of Hearts own fans acknowledged that they deserved to be relegated.

From a sporting perspective, Hearts were the worst football team in the league. In the match thread following the St Mirren defeat, the overall mood was disappointment and acknowledgment of how poor a team they were. In that match thread, Fozzyonthefence noted prior to the defeat “Lose on Wednesday and we’re down. I think you’re the only person on here that doesn’t think that” in response to a poster suggesting they could stay up. JimmyCant pointed out that “We’ve got 5 key games left … We’ll need to win 4 out of those 5. That’s becoming a big ask the more you look at it.” Bear in mind, this is a Hearts team that had won four times all season.

On sporting merit, Hearts deserved to be relegated.

There is also the worrying trend emerging around Hearts supporters expressly hoping for negative outcomes for other clubs whilst at the same time becoming noticeably vocal around the concept of fairness. There is the startling example of the post on the aforementioned St Mirren matchday thread of a poster highlighting how funny it would be to beat St Mirren, sending them bottom, and then for the season to be called due to COVID19. I’m fairly certain the poster in question has had this particular post copy/pasted several times, and so I’ll spare them the reminder of it. This schadenfreude has now been replaced by hoping that other clubs go into administration, seemingly based on the assumption that they “voted against Hearts” in order to relegate them.

Throughout various threads, numerous assertions have been made as to which clubs people would like to go into administration. The thread titled “Administration” from 26th June notes that some fans believe that “quite a few” will suffer this fate and that Hearts should “Get that interdict served ASAP”. Amongst others, Dundee, Hibs, St Mirren, Ross County, Hamilton and Albion Rovers are all named as clubs that posters hope enter administration, a process which results in numerous job losses and can end in financial hardship for ordinary employees. It’s noteworthy that several of these clubs were Hearts rivals within the bottom six of the league.Thank goodness for the few comments of common sense on such matters, notably Sassenach, who said “I've suffered admin events … It's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on any fellow football fans”. Some things surely transcend sport.

The matter of finance also comes into play in issue. Hearts suffered a previous administration event, ultimately leading to their relegation in the 2010s. This was caused largely by financial mismanagement. Within their list of creditors, Hearts included fellow football clubs Ayr United, Livingston, Musselburgh Athletic, Stenhousemuir and Rangers. They also owed monies to a variety of public bodies, including the City of Edinburgh Council, Scottish Water and Scottish Police Authority. There are no winners in administration events. Supporter boycotts of all clubs who voted against Hearts league reconstruction proposals have been widely mentioned online.

To a significant extent, supporters of other clubs (the Pie & Bovril forum is a marker of this) do sympathise with the situation in which Hearts currently find themselves, but many have expressed a significant distaste for the sense of entitlement being displayed. Under the JKB thread of “Wigan Go Into Administration”, posters note that there may be “decent freebies to be had” and that this is “karma for Webstergate”. The irony and understanding of the concept of karma and justice for perceived previous wrongdoings is an interesting one.

Similarly, the suggestion that Dundee United are a target of Hearts fans’ dislike appears to be an interesting perspective. Taken from the thread last week on JKB “I Used To Post On Here About Liking Dundee Utd”, Salad Fingers notes that he/she “recently developed a strong hatred of them and their fans”. The supposed crime committed by Dundee United is defending themselves and their promotion in the Court of Session and being asked to pay £50,000 for the privilege.

The thread posted this morning on JKB titled “Merging Clubs” highlights and reinforces the prevailing sense of entitlement amongst posters on the site, perhaps representative of the wider Hearts support. The assertion from Space Pirate that there are “far too many wee diddy clubs” and that clubs should merge underlines the contempt in which other clubs in Scotland are held.

As it stands, the hugely successful Foundation of Hearts brings circa £2M into the club each year from fans and it has been revealed that James Anderson has acted as a benefactor over recent times. During this time, Hearts have spent £17M on a main stand within Tynecastle and this is yet to be fully completed. During the recent Court of Session case, various figures of compensation have been raised and noted, both on JKB and within the Scottish media. It has been suggested that Hearts are seeking compensation and damages in the region of £8M.

Following on from the Court of Session hearing, Hearts supporters are seemingly painting the club, and Ann Budge in particular, as champions of justice, noting that there is a crucial role to be played in fighting corruption. Indeed, it has been suggested that Ann Budge previously stepped down from her role on the SPFL Board as she wanted to challenge the corruption that she saw. Reporting of the matter would seem to indicate otherwise - https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...l-board-583624

Throughout this process since March, there has been much play with regards to revisionism. The term relegated has been replaced with expelled, for instance. Interestingly, manager Daniel Stendal’s contract reputably had a clause allowing it’s termination in the event of relegation, as confirmed by both Ann Budge and Daniel Stendal. This clause was enacted. The tone and portrayal of Ann Budge has shifted too. Compare the descriptions with regards to her perceived leadership skills that were expressed on JKB during January and February to now.

Before Hearts continue to fall further down the rabbit hole of blaming other people, clubs and institutions, perhaps the blame needs to lie closer to home.


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The seethe of Kickback about that post is hysterical, ranging from people suggesting the boy got paid to post it to the repeated assertions that he’s just bitter, cos 1-5

It’s a hoot!

Good post, by the way, whoever in here it was who did it

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He will be abused relentlessly for that. No matter how much of a reasoned argument that is he will already have been tagged as a bitter, spoon burning, vermin. 5-1 and all that

It wouldn’t surprise me if he/she’s a genuine Jambo driven to desperation by the echo chamber of insanity that is Kickback. All the Jambos I’ve spoken to have a very different take on things to Saughton Jambo, Leslie Deans, and the other cardigan-wearers.

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The seethe of Kickback about that post is hysterical, ranging from people suggesting the boy got paid to post it to the repeated assertions that he’s just bitter, cos 1-5

It’s a hoot!

Good post, by the way, whoever in here it was who did it

the cultists will be performing mental gymnastics trying to respond to that ... he’s absolutely eviscerated them there

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It wouldn’t surprise me if he/she’s a genuine Jambo driven to desperation by the echo chamber of insanity that is Kickback. All the Jambos I’ve spoken to have a very different take on things to Saughton Jambo, Leslie Deans, and the other cardigan-wearers.

This is a really good point. All my jambo mates are hacked off that they couldn’t finish the season, don’t like the way SPFL have gone about it but always counter this with “we only have ourselves to blame”. Kickback is a haven for complete idiots and multiply that by lockdown factor it’s a cesspit.

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It wouldn’t surprise me if he/she’s a genuine Jambo driven to desperation by the echo chamber of insanity that is Kickback. All the Jambos I’ve spoken to have a very different take on things to Saughton Jambo, Leslie Deans, and the other cardigan-wearers.

He's posted again stating he's a Bonnyrigg Rose fan...and that's wound tgem up even more because they genuinely could have won the Lowland League and webbed fingered 1-5 defence cannot be rolled out.

[Dashing Bob S]

With the release of the SPL fixture list and still nothing on the championship, it underlines what a desperate situation Hearts are in. The really did pick the very worst time to finish bottom of the league.

Imagine if it was Hibs, not knowing when, who or even if you'll be playing. Not wonder they are confused and angry.

You have to have a laugh and look at the positives though, as difficult as it is. If Championship football doesn't start till October Hearts will have gone (at least) seven months undefeated.

[Clarence]

I for one know that there are a large number of Hibs fan members of Kickback, who have been posting quite innocently for a number of years, mostly about transfer talk, in order to get up their post tally to over 400 in order to avoid suspicion before starting the wind up just at the right time. That time is now. I hope no hearts fans are reading this and start to get really suspicious about fans with an approximate post count of 400.

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With the release of the SPL fixture list and still nothing on the championship, it underlines what a desperate situation Hearts are in. The really did pick the very worst time to finish bottom of the league.

Imagine if it was Hibs, not knowing when, who or even if you'll be playing. Not wonder they are confused and angry.

You have to have a laugh and look at the positives though, as difficult as it is. If Championship football doesn't start till October Hearts will have gone (at least) seven months undefeated.

Undefeated? Only if you don't count their court case and all the SPFL votes and indicative votes.

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With the release of the SPL fixture list and still nothing on the championship, it underlines what a desperate situation Hearts are in. The really did pick the very worst time to finish bottom of the league.

Imagine if it was Hibs, not knowing when, who or even if you'll be playing. Not wonder they are confused and angry.

You have to have a laugh and look at the positives though, as difficult as it is. If Championship football doesn't start till October Hearts will have gone (at least) seven months undefeated.

I was thinking about this. Premier league clubs will have matchday costs but no matchday income. Sure, our season ticket money is in and we have that but they will have to provide us, at some cost, with a viewing experience via media of some description.

Championship clubs will be sitting with their season ticket money and no matchday costs until October so ironically will actually save money, won’t they?

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I was thinking about this. Premier league clubs will have matchday costs but no matchday income. Sure, our season ticket money is in and we have that but they will have to provide us, at some cost, with a viewing experience via media of some description.

Championship clubs will be sitting with their season ticket money and no matchday costs until October so ironically will actually save money, won’t they?

Hearts' expenditure is a lot higher than that of Hibs.

We'll have matchday expenses but their monthly outgoings (especially inflated salaries) will probably still be a lot more than ours.

We can also budget based on the income from the new Sky deal, knowing that we'll receive a lot more in TV and prize money over the course of the season.

They'll have to resort, as usual, to donations from fans and benefactors, instead of living within their means.

[EI255]

WTF is Robbie Neilson wearing on STV news tonight?!! ... ahahahaha Looks like some kind of hideous tartan corset.

More to the point, WTF was he thinking?!!

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WTF is Robbie Neilson wearing on STV news tonight?!! ... ahahahaha Looks like some kind of hideous tartan corset.

More to the point, WTF was he thinking?!!

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He's pulled his kilt up awfy high.

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I was thinking about this. Premier league clubs will have matchday costs but no matchday income. Sure, our season ticket money is in and we have that but they will have to provide us, at some cost, with a viewing experience via media of some description.

Championship clubs will be sitting with their season ticket money and no matchday costs until October so ironically will actually save money, won’t they?

Hearts will only have 13 home games this season but they have guaranteed their fans 18 with their season ticket and have said that will go into next season if need be. It means their season tickets next season will be discounted big time for existing season ticket holders.


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[HoboHarry]

FFS, looks the lovechild of Budge and Nicholas Fairburn 😂😂😂

[Pete]

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WTF is Robbie Neilson wearing on STV news tonight?!! ... ahahahaha Looks like some kind of hideous tartan corset.

More to the point, WTF was he thinking?!!

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Nice suit but he's made a dugs dinner of it.

[Hibby70]

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WTF is Robbie Neilson wearing on STV news tonight?!! ... ahahahaha Looks like some kind of hideous tartan corset.

More to the point, WTF was he thinking?!!

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It's Budge Dredd's suit turned inside out.

[Jim44]

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WTF is Robbie Neilson wearing on STV news tonight?!! ... ahahahaha Looks like some kind of hideous tartan corset.

More to the point, WTF was he thinking?!!

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He looks like Jimmy Carr after a rough night.

[Kojock]

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He looks like Jimmy Carr after a rough night.

More like Alan Carr after a good night.

[Peevemor]

Nice dig from Grant Holt.

[EI255]

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Nice suit but he's made a dugs dinner of it.

Nice suit?

You on the wind up?

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