Coronavirus

**Sir David Gray** · 01-07-2020 11:33 AM

Daily Scottish update;

8 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 100 in hospital including a decrease of 11 in the confirmed cases
Decrease of 2 in intensive care
4071 have left hospital since 5th March
1 death registered since yesterday

**Sir David Gray** · 01-07-2020 11:36 AM

Total number of deaths in the week up to 28th June is below the average from the last 5 years - first time since March.

**SideBurns** · 01-07-2020 12:23 PM

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Daily Scottish update;

8 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 100 in hospital including a decrease of 11 in the confirmed cases
Decrease of 2 in intensive care
4071 have left hospital since 5th March
1 death registered since yesterday

Thanks again, the encouraging trend continues. Big decrease in hospital after yesterday's similarly large increase - not sure what's happening there, but anyway...!

**Betty Boop** · 01-07-2020 05:38 PM

Horrendous amount of jobs being lost, just the tip of the iceberg. Feel for the younger generation trying to make a decent life for themselves. Sad sad times.

***Callum_62*** · 01-07-2020 05:39 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-sc...mpression=true

https://twitter.com/YourWullie/statu...189900800?s=19

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***lapsedhibee*** · 01-07-2020 06:16 PM

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-sc...mpression=true

"Sturgeon threatens to invade Newcastle"

**hibsbollah** · 01-07-2020 06:27 PM

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-sc...mpression=true

https://twitter.com/YourWullie/statu...189900800?s=19

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It’s getting spicy. UN involvement and Dutch policed safe havens and balkanised enclaves at that famous bridge at Berwick not being ruled out, says Sturgeon.

Theyll be banning Lorne sausage next.

**Sir David Gray** · 01-07-2020 06:45 PM

829 new cases and 176 new deaths across the UK since yesterday.

I don't think it's just Leicester that needs locked down.

***Sylar*** · 01-07-2020 06:54 PM

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829 new cases and 176 new deaths across the UK since yesterday.

I don't think it's just Leicester that needs locked down.

They're just not getting it, are they? And yet they're still planning to reopen pubs this coming weekend...worse is to come!

**SideBurns** · 01-07-2020 06:56 PM

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829 new cases and 176 new deaths across the UK since yesterday.

I don't think it's just Leicester that needs locked down.

What is going on in England? That just seems really high for a country still lifting lockdown measures.

***Callum_62*** · 01-07-2020 06:58 PM

Does anyone on here, independance supporter or unionist agree with Johnsons comments?

I find it crazy that it would be anything but normal for a country to want to protect its occupants

England in UK terms is terrible right now so why is it appalling?

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**murray26** · 01-07-2020 07:15 PM

I would close the border with immediate effect..England is a shambles at the moment and the last thing we need is thousands of them pitching up here for there summer holidays..

***Kato*** · 01-07-2020 07:28 PM

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-sc...mpression=true

https://twitter.com/YourWullie/statu...189900800?s=19

Have never voted for her but it has to be said that way she dealt with that is way, way more mature than all the wee laddies trying to create headlines have done.

***Kato*** · 01-07-2020 07:30 PM

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Does anyone on here, independance supporter or unionist agree with Johnsons comments?

I find it crazy that it would be anything but normal for a country to want to protect its occupants

England in UK terms is terrible right now so why is it appalling?

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What's the difference between shutting Scotland off from England (if required) and creating "a bubble" around Leicester?

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 01-07-2020 07:45 PM

BoJo would look a hell of a lot worse than he does already if the other UK nations closed the borders to England due to being so far ahead of his England.

He’ll never agree to it.

**Sir David Gray** · 01-07-2020 07:55 PM

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They're just not getting it, are they? And yet they're still planning to reopen pubs this coming weekend...worse is to come!

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What is going on in England? That just seems really high for a country still lifting lockdown measures.

The number of deaths is still far too high. I can only imagine the scenes across England's towns and cities on Saturday night.

Although the number of cases does look big, it's actually not that much higher than Scotland when you consider the number of tests being carried out in Scotland compared with the UK as a whole.

Scotland carried out just over 4,000 tests yesterday, the UK's total number was just over 226,000.

**The Baldmans Comb** · 01-07-2020 08:18 PM

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Does anyone on here, independance supporter or unionist agree with Johnsons comments?

I find it crazy that it would be anything but normal for a country to want to protect its occupants

England in UK terms is terrible right now so why is it appalling?

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Scotland isn't a very normal place though.

Every country I can think of closes and controls its borders when an emergency situation arises in order to protect it population. That's just standard.

Every country I can think of develops an economic policy that tries to benefit the citizens of the country.

Every country I can think of develops a strategy to increase or decrease migration for the overall benefit of the country.

Every country I can think of enters into treaties and supports or opposes countries or causes in line with its democratic traditions.

Scotland does none of these things and chooses English people to do these for them so I can quite understand Boris Johnson's comments.

From his point of view it is "appalling" that Scotland is considering (however remotely) border controls as again from his point of view his power is being challenged as that's a decision English people should always make utterly without question.

Rest assured if it was the other way around there would be tanks, razer wire and barricades by the weekend without any meaningful discussion of that there is no question.

***danhibees1875*** · 01-07-2020 08:20 PM

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Does anyone on here, independance supporter or unionist agree with Johnsons comments?

I find it crazy that it would be anything but normal for a country to want to protect its occupants

England in UK terms is terrible right now so why is it appalling?

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I don't wish to go as far as "agreeing with Boris" but I don't agree with the idea of closing things off at the border so simplistically.

There will be plenty areas in England at similar levels to areas in Scotland and who knows how that will fluctuate going forward from place to place. It would seem to make more sense just to lock down individual areas as required (as localised as possible) while allowing the rest of the UK to open up and enjoy freedom of movement within.

The economy has been hit enough we don't need to complicate things with our #1 tourist industry customer.

***lapsedhibee*** · 01-07-2020 08:21 PM

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The number of deaths is still far too high. I can only imagine the scenes across England's towns and cities on Saturday night.

Although the number of cases does look big, it's actually not that much higher than Scotland when you consider the number of tests being carried out in Scotland compared with the UK as a whole.

Scotland carried out just over 4,000 tests yesterday, the UK's total number was just over 226,000.

In Hancock's mind maybe.

***danhibees1875*** · 01-07-2020 08:22 PM

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Scotland carried out just over 4,000 tests yesterday, the UK's total number was just over 226,000.

Are those figures right?

I knew Scotland's testing was lagging behind per capita but that's a big difference and last time I checked the UK was nowhere near 200k.

**Sir David Gray** · 01-07-2020 08:27 PM

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Are those figures right?

I knew Scotland's testing was lagging behind per capita but that's a big difference and last time I checked the UK was nowhere near 200k.

It seems to be correct;

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...-for-scotland/

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...for-the-public

**~~James310~~** · 01-07-2020 08:29 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-19-cases

Wales and Scotland occupy the top spots for the virus per 100k of population.

As for tanks....LOL.

***danhibees1875*** · 01-07-2020 08:36 PM

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It seems to be correct;

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...-for-scotland/

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...for-the-public

Thanks.

That UK figure seems to have rocketed up since I last seen.

***lapsedhibee*** · 01-07-2020 08:38 PM

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Thanks.

That UK figure seems to have rocketed up since I last seen.

First five minutes of this explains how 80,000 in reality becomes 120,000 in Hancock's mind:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000htw2

**Pretty Boy** · 01-07-2020 09:20 PM

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Horrendous amount of jobs being lost, just the tip of the iceberg. Feel for the younger generation trying to make a decent life for themselves. Sad sad times.

Scary.

Both 'sides' have tried to paint this as an economy v health argument but the two are not mutually exclusive. Despite Johnsons ramblings otherwise another decade of austerity seems inevitable. Someone who was 16 at the time of the 2008 crash could well reach 40 having lived much of their adult life in such circumstances.

***Jack*** · 01-07-2020 09:26 PM

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-19-cases

Wales and Scotland occupy the top spots for the virus per 100k of population.

As for tanks....LOL.

The devil is in the detail.

It seems the Guardian are only including figures for pillar 1 in England.

Overall, including pillar 2, the English infection rate is running just over a third higher than in Scotland per million and deaths more than 50% higher.

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

***Smartie*** · 01-07-2020 09:28 PM

Can we really trust any figures from this government?

***Jack*** · 01-07-2020 09:35 PM

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Can we really trust any figures from this government?

How can you tell if a tory is lying? Their lips are moving!

The Financial Times have published a series of articles digging deeper for more accurate English and UK figures.

***Callum_62*** · 01-07-2020 09:49 PM

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-19-cases

Wales and Scotland occupy the top spots for the virus per 100k of population.

As for tanks....LOL.

You believe Scotland and Wales are the worst countries in the UK at the moment?

Genuinely?

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