The generic Hearts thread

[Jim44]

It’s churlish to say anything other than it’s a good bit of business for them. Possibly the best bit of news they’ve had for a couple of years ........ every dog has it’s day.

[mal]

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It’s churlish to say anything other than it’s a good bit of business for them. Possibly the best bit of news they’ve had for a couple of years ........ every dog has it’s day.

That's what they thought when Naismith signed his 4 year deal. Gordon may turn out to be great for them but it's a bit premature to go congratulating them now, particularly given that by the time the Championship kicks off he won't have played a league game for about 22 months...

[SHODAN]

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Do Hearts get to play in the tunnocks tea cake lower league pish cup?

Would be great if they played our U21s.

[Jim44]

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That's what they thought when Naismith signed his 4 year deal. Gordon may turn out to be great for them but it's a bit premature to go congratulating them now, particularly given that by the time the Championship kicks off he won't have played a league game for about 22 months...

Steady on now, who’s congratulating them? Decent signing ..... that’s all.

[Northernhibee]

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That's what they thought when Naismith signed his 4 year deal. Gordon may turn out to be great for them but it's a bit premature to go congratulating them now, particularly given that by the time the Championship kicks off he won't have played a league game for about 22 months...

Scott Bain got a game ahead of him before they signed Fraser Forster, and Scott Bain really isn't that fantastic. A good keeper but no more than that.

[Brightside]

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It’s churlish to say anything other than it’s a good bit of business for them. Possibly the best bit of news they’ve had for a couple of years ........ every dog has it’s day.

A championship club with a £8m financial hole buying a goalie on 4K a week minimum will never be a good bit of business.

[Jim44]

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A championship club with a £8m financial hole buying a goalie on 4K a week minimum will never be a good bit of business.

Ok, bad use of the word business. Still a decent signing.

[Since452]

2020 has been a nightmare but imagine being a Hearts fan

[Waxy]

Gordon and Naismith, they like signing a fossil or two.

[Sammy7nil]

Hearts and Partick Thistle £10m threat to clubs lost support and they might regret it if decisions go against them - Keith Jackson
The battle goes to the Court of Session this week and adds to the madness of Scottish football during lockdown.




Hearts and Partick Thistle £10m threat to clubs lost support and they might regret it if decisions go against them - Keith Jackson

The battle goes to the Court of Session this week and adds to the madness of Scottish football during lockdown.



Years from now when historians reflect on the Great Lockdown of 2020 they will see that Scottish football led the way as the true pioneer of this pandemic.



Records will show that the game in this country descended into a state of complete and utter madness long before the rest of the real world eventually caved in and lost the plot too.



It’s a scary place out there these days and some of the events of the last few weeks have been enough to make you wonder if there’s much to be gained from ever going out the front door again.



Certainly, the vein-popping insanity which has throttled the SPFL since March shows no sign of loosening its grip any time soon.





In fact, it will be cranked up again over the next few days as Hearts and Partick Thistle kick the whole drama into the Court of Session, having already issued the rest of Scotland’s clubs with a £10million relegation ransom note.



If they get their way we’re all about to be dragged back to the very start of this crisis and the decision to call time on a season after it had been infected by the same virus which has unleashed such suffering and chaos.



From Dundee and their mysterious flip-flopping to Neil Doncaster and his dubious back channelling, it could all be dragged back into the public domain like a recurring nightmare.



The trouble is, where there was almost unanimous sympathy back then for the plight of these two clubs, and for Thistle in particular, the mood around this new normal has taken a turn for the worse.



There are some clubs in agreement that the M8 alliance have been left with no option but to press the big red button.



But there are others, and plenty of them, who have been infuriated by the manner in which they have gone about it and, in particular, by the enormity of their demands.



The threat to trigger an interim interdict to prevent next season from kicking off as scheduled on August 1 has also raised the temperature significantly and contributed to the feelings of ill will swirling around the 12
top-flight clubs.



At 3pm on Wednesday, just hours after the preliminary hearing at the Court of Session, all 12 of them will dial into a video conference call to discuss the next step in Scottish football’s recovery



On the agenda is a proposed rule change which would empower SPFL chief executive Doncaster and his board with emergency powers to act as they see fit should, heaven forbid, another pandemic force our game back into lockdown at some point in the future.



Over the weekend, Doncaster was also locked in fruitful talks with the Scottish government to secure permission for Premiership clubs to restart full contact training from this morning. That means the top 12 can now arrange pre-season friendlies between themselves while also advancing plans to get fans safely back inside their grounds as quickly as possible and turning on the tap of matchday revenue.

All the while, Hearts and Thistle continue to hold a gun to the game’s head over the manner in which last season was shut down.



It’s this refusal to allow the rest to focus fully on moving forward which is causing resentment to build and tempers to fray.

This is likely to dominate the conversations on Wednesday.



There is every chance that this uncertainty and rancour will all still be rumbling on in three weeks’ time when the SPFL holds its AGM to decide on the make-up of Doncaster’s board for the new campaign. There’s also every chance Celtic’s chief executive Peter Lawwell will be re-appointed to the set-up at that stage, replacing Rangers managing director Stewart Robertson as has become the customary summer boardroom job swap in recent times.



If that happens then Lawwell, who has kept his own counsel throughout this period of
unprecedented unrest, will be dragged into the thick of the fight.



He’s unlikely to join in quietly or, for that matter, to feel much in the way of empathy for the two clubs most sorely aggrieved.



It really is a mess of gargantuan proportions and as the bad blood continues to simmer behind the scenes Scottish football’s dirtiest laundry may now be aired in full public view, assuming Hearts and Thistle’s lawyers win the argument on Wednesday morning.

If it is decided by Lord Clark that the case should proceed to the Court of Session the two rebellious clubs will feel their own actions have been largely vindicated, no matter how much anger they have caused among the others.



If, however, it is batted out at the first stage and Hearts and Thistle are ordered to enter into arbitration through the SFA instead, the whole basis for their claim will have been greatly undermined.



If the issue of a compensation claim somehow winds up going back to the vote of all 42 clubs then Hearts and Thistle would be as well standing outside and whistling for their cash. There may have been a time and place for such a conversation.



Even the most myopic and self-interested of chairmen and chief executives could see the blatant unfairness of what was done to these two clubs back in March when football was stopped.



But much has changed over these historic, life-changing last four months.



What was once a cruel world is in danger of losing its mind. At least our game will be there to welcome it to the madhouse.


They are going mad about this on KB Lawell is threatening them via Keef Jackson

[we are hibs]

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Would be great if they played our U21s.

Similar happened in England not long ago with Sunderland playing Newcastle u21s in the checkatrade trophy. Sunderland won 4-0 infront of 16k

[EI255]

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Ok, bad use of the word business. Still a decent signing.

they clearly have money to burn.

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[EI255]

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Scott Bain got a game ahead of him before they signed Fraser Forster, and Scott Bain really isn't that fantastic. A good keeper but no more than that.

Yet another Jambo is he.

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[EI255]

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As long as he can keep fit, Gordon could be a decent signing.

I realise he's 37 but goalkeepers tend to have a longer career than outfield players, e.g. Dino Zoff was 40 y/o when he captained the Italian side to a World Cup win in '82

Wait till lumps are kicked out him in the lower league.

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[BH Hibs]

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Decent signing for a Championship team.

Don't know if he'll fit into their hoofball style his kicking is pretty dire.

[jacomo]

Ref: Keith Jackson story above - not sure how good his info is, but could be read as a wee shot across the bows from Celtc.

Of course, after threatening to disrupt the return of football and claiming a spurious £8m compensation or denying other clubs their promotion, Hearts will claim that they are being threatened and bullied.

It’s all so unfair!

[mixumatosis]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?

[Greenworld]

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A championship club with a £8m financial hole buying a goalie on 4K a week minimum will never be a good bit of business.

If fit a great shot stopper. Hopeless at crosses and even worse with ball at feet. The last part is why celtic were happy for him to go. He has some nightmares in his later games with them.
Not sure on wages but the attraction might be getting max wages even when on the treatment bench with Stevie nay

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[JimBHibees]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?

So Levein is on sportsound again, seamless move to the Jambo retirement home I see. Complete joke.

[portohibee]

A few of them ive spoken to seem to think a deal to sign Jason Cummings is 'just about over the line' too??

[Heisenberg]

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A few of them ive spoken to seem to think a deal to sign Jason Cummings is 'just about over the line' too??

Think I’ve heard the same from them for the past five transfer windows. They are desperate for him to end up at tiny.

[Coco Bryce]

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So Levein is on sportsound again, seamless move to the Jambo retirement home I see. Complete joke.

Is he? Such a charismatic figure right enough

[Billy Whizz]

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A few of them ive spoken to seem to think a deal to sign Jason Cummings is 'just about over the line' too??

Robbie’s slayer

[portohibee]

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Think I’ve heard the same from them for the past five transfer windows. They are desperate for him to end up at tiny.

I know but they seem to think its genuine this time.

[Kato]

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I know but they seem to think its genuine this time.

Like the other five times.

[portohibee]

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Like the other five times.

I do hope your right.

[JimBHibees]

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Is he? Such a charismatic figure right enough

Yep dull as dishwater. His exclusive today was that he doesn't trust sports scientists. Absolute dinosaur.

[weecounty hibby]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?

Why do the press keep on speaking to fuds like him? A complete and utter loser for his whole career as player and manager. Was left behind as a coach and a manager by modern day football, tactics etc. It is unbelievable that they keep on asking him, Billy Brown, Jim Jeffries, Neil McCann etc for opinions

[Kato]

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Why do the press keep on speaking to fuds like him? A complete and utter loser for his whole career as player and manager. Was left behind as a coach and a manager by modern day football, tactics etc. It is unbelievable that they keep on asking him, Billy Brown, Jim Jeffries, Neil McCann etc for opinions

Fuddery sells.

[Brunswickbill]

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Why do the press keep on speaking to fuds like him? A complete and utter loser for his whole career as player and manager. Was left behind as a coach and a manager by modern day football, tactics etc. It is unbelievable that they keep on asking him, Billy Brown, Jim Jeffries, Neil McCann etc for opinions

Nobody with any sense would go anywhere near that programme. If you don’t adhere to their “SPFL shambles/incompetent /corrupt“ and “Budge is wonderful” agendas you’ll be shouted down.