Youth academy - disbanded?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

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I don’t have any knowledge on May to say he is doing a good or bad job other than the fact that he is not producing players.
Anecdotally I hear that the coaching at Hearts is rated higher but I don’t know if that’s reliable or not.
When Eddie May was interviewed for the job I doubt he said that in about 6 years time I will have produced 1 first team player. By any metric it looks as if he is failing at his job.
I’ve never met the guy and wish him no ill will but I don’t understand why he still here with the record he has?
Much like I didn’t understand Mathie’s promotion recently when recruitment has been so bad.
Maybe the pandemic is the perfect time for a complete reboot?


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Mathie was responsible for recruiting most of our Scottish Cup winning team. He earned his promotion

[Fanforlife]

Over on keekback they now have a thread in regards to looting and pillaging other academys for players, do these mutants no realise that all academys aren't training etc at the present moment 🤣 ffs their first team aren't allowed to train just now never mind academy players!!🤣🤣

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A bit more detail from Leeann -

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...cademy-2894558

[green day]

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A bit more detail from Leeann -

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...cademy-2894558

The press release that came out in Rons name left a number of questions unanswered at the time, and allowed some commentators to reach certain conclusions.

Had we been as clear as Ron has in his videos, and LD has in the last 24 hours, none of that would have happened.

There are PR lessons to be learned from this situation.

[B.H.F.C]

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The press release that came out in Rons name left a number of questions unanswered at the time, and allowed some commentators to reach certain conclusions.

Had we been as clear as Ron has in his videos, and LD has in the last 24 hours, none of that would have happened.

There are PR lessons to be learned from this situation.

Maybe it’s not just the club the need to learn some lessons. Some of the hysteria around the statement last Monday was ridiculous IMO.

At the time of the original statement they were just entering consultation and perhaps didn’t have all the answers. They probably still don’t. But as soon as the Daily Record jumped on it, people were all of a sudden believing that we’d be selling everyone, signing no one and scrapping everything. None of that was ever going to happen.

[Kato]

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The press release that came out in Rons name left a number of questions unanswered at the time, and allowed some commentators to reach certain conclusions.

Had we been as clear as Ron has in his videos, and LD has in the last 24 hours, none of that would have happened.

There are PR lessons to be learned from this situation.

Still, it helped fill in 10 minutes of Sportsound last week when they tore themselves away from the "tragic" circumstances Hearts find themselves in to rip into Hibs for "abandoning " the youth structure. Steven Thomson was very upset.

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[Billy Whizz]

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The press release that came out in Rons name left a number of questions unanswered at the time, and allowed some commentators to reach certain conclusions.

Had we been as clear as Ron has in his videos, and LD has in the last 24 hours, none of that would have happened.

There are PR lessons to be learned from this situation.

The media staff were all furloughed until this week, not sure how many are back now

[ancient hibee]

It's perfectly clear that, as well as the cost factor,health and safety at ET is a major worry and keeping the numbers there down is essential.

[Greenworld]

Im assuming Eddie May has made redundant from his role .
I wondered about someone for this role going forward and thought Donald park would be a great appointment .

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[Peevemor]

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Im assuming Eddie May has made redundant from his role .
I wondered about someone for this role going forward and thought Donald park would be a great appointment .

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I think Donald's at Hearts part time.

Anyway, he's 66 now - not an age to be starting a new job.

[Ozyhibby]

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I think Donald's at Hearts part time.

Anyway, he's 66 now - not an age to be starting a new job.

Pretty sure he’s retired now.


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[Billy Whizz]

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Pretty sure he’s retired now.


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He was doing some work for Hearts when Levein was sacked

[Greenworld]

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I think Donald's at Hearts part time.

Anyway, he's 66 now - not an age to be starting a new job.

Didn't think he was so old ah well back to the drawing board. Alan stubbs lots of experience at everton

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[bigwheel]

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He was doing some work for Hearts when Levein was sacked

Also think he still does work for sfa

[Billy Whizz]

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Im assuming Eddie May has made redundant from his role .
I wondered about someone for this role going forward and thought Donald park would be a great appointment .

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Not sure if he is or not, the Academy will open again at some stage

[Ozyhibby]

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Not sure if he is or not, the Academy will open again at some stage

Whether or not May comes back, hopefully there is a full review of what the academy is doing and how it can improve. There has to be an improvement in its output of players going forward.


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[The dalmeny]

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I think Donald's at Hearts part time.

Anyway, he's 66 now - not an age to be starting a new job.

that’s quite ageist

[we are hibs]

What happened to John Park?

[Peevemor]

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that’s quite ageist

I would say realistic.

[Brightside]

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I would say realistic.

Not even retirement age now.

[Peevemor]

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Not even retirement age now.

I understand that, but if we were to bin Eddie May to replace him with someone to study and put a new long term youth strategy in place, it should be somebody younger than Donald Park (who's a friend of 40 years) IMO.

[Lago]

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Not even retirement age now.

Yip I'd love to be 66 again, was in my pomp then. Can't be bothered with folk that right people off at that age. 😠

[Peevemor]

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Yip I'd love to be 66 again, was in my pomp then. Can't be bothered with folk that right people off at that age.

I wasn't writing anyone off. Last I heard Donald had retired from his post at the SFA and was happy working part time for Hearts.

If we were looking to take someone on for such a key post, we'd want somebody that'll stay 3-5 years, hopefully longer if it works. Somebody at 67 years old (next month) wouldn't fit the bill for me.

[Lago]

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I wasn't writing anyone off. Last I heard Donald had retired from his post at the SFA and was happy working part time for Hearts.

If we were looking to take someone on for such a key post, we'd want somebody that'll stay 3-5 years, hopefully longer if it works. Somebody at 67 years old (next month) wouldn't fit the bill for me.

Just as well your not the owner of Crystal Palace.

[Peevemor]

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Just as well your not the owner of Crystal Palace.

That wouldn't be allowed in France where clubs aren't allowed to employ coaches/managers over 65 years old (although I think those already in place can stay).

Guy Roux the former Auxerre manager and a huge personality in French football wasn't allowed to start a new job at Lens (Jimmy Boco's former club) because he was too old at 67.

[Iggy Pope]

From what I gather, irrespective of his age, Donald Park‘s involvement in Hearts set up makes him sound a cantankerous ****. Old school approach it seems.

[Peevemor]

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From what I gather, irrespective of his age, Donald Park‘s involvement in Hearts set up makes him sound a cantankerous ****. Old school approach it seems.

I don't know about his football/coaching outlook, but he's always been torn faced.

[Billy Whizz]

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I don't know about his football/coaching outlook, but he's always been torn faced.

He did play in 0-7 game, maybe still suffering from it

[Kato]

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He did play in 0-7 game, maybe still suffering from it

His debut, I think. There's an article in the Pink from the week before with him doing a "bring it on" type hype. Hibs obliged go course.

[oneone73]

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His debut, I think. There's an article in the Pink from the week before with him doing a "bring it on" type hype. Hibs obliged go course.

Wasn't it Jim Jeffries's debut? I may have got that wrong