So much wrong with that article - but not unexpected. The way its worded is that reconstruction was the only option available. His biggest fault is implying that in order to save all three clubs, anybody with an ounce of decency would have voted in favour of this ludicrous 14 team league - on a permanent basis - yesterday. Why would anyone vote for that shambles just to save three teams? In every crisis there are losers. Thats how it is.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The man is a clown and his reputation has bombed with the stance he’s taken since March. I have lost all respect for him and I’m not alone.
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16-06-2020 05:40 PM #31
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16-06-2020 05:58 PM #32
“ Had Ross Country continued that trajectory and dropped to 12th and were then robbed of a chance to rescue themselves because of the pandemic would MacGregor be practising what he's now preaching about taking his medicine or would he be highlighting a wrong and calling for support? It doesn't matter who the afflicted clubs are, no properly functioning governing body - one that purports to act in the interests of 42 clubs - would stand over this decision.”
Let’s flip that one round, Tom. Had Ross County continued that trajectory and dropped to 12th, would Hearts, Anne Budge, yourself and all your media pals and the knuckle dragging Hearts fans be practicing what they’re preaching? Would they have voted for reconstruction to an absolutely terrible league set up that we’d be permanently stuck with?
Would. They. ****.
Also, the tears of Tom English are almost more beautiful than the tears of Hearts fans.Last edited by calumhibee1; 16-06-2020 at 06:01 PM.
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16-06-2020 06:06 PM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-06-2020 06:18 PM #34
If you look at the Scottish press over the last good few years Hibs a well run club is hardly ever praised.Yet Hearts who have been badly ran are constantly praised in the media.So does the Scottish media have a Hearts bias or am i being paranoid.It really grates me how they get so much positive airtime.
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16-06-2020 06:23 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-06-2020 06:25 PM #36
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16-06-2020 07:24 PM #38
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Isn't it funny how the Jumbos are perceived by the BBC and their pals to be Scotlands great old footballing institution, that everyone loves and cares about.
English and his BBC fixers wouldn't give two hoots if this were just about any other club.
The more the prat opens his over used mouth, the more this nation of football lovers loathe the man.
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16-06-2020 07:24 PM #39
I have no problem with newspaper journalists stating their opinion - I can choose to buy or not buy their papers.
The point is that the BBC is publicly funded and supposed to be "balanced".
I realise politics is more important than football (sorry! ) but how come Emily Maitlis gets reprimanded for stating the bloody obvious truth about Dominic Cummings while English is allowed to ignore any alternative view to Hearts' one and pursue it relentlessly?
He shouldn't resign; he should be fired.
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16-06-2020 07:27 PM #40
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Really enjoyed Donald Findlay toying with him on yesterday's podcast. English doesn't have the first clue about Scots law, and didn't Findlay know it!
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16-06-2020 07:39 PM #41
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Through the Key hole starring Craig Leveins medals?
John Robertson’s wife swap episode?
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16-06-2020 08:17 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis is how it feels
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16-06-2020 08:33 PM #44
[QUOTE=Cabbage East;6206667]We need a definitive list of things Hearts have destroyed. I'll start:
The German Empire
Themselves
Lithuanian pension fund
Us, as a club, apparently
Anything else?[.
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16-06-2020 08:41 PM #46This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-06-2020 08:41 PM #47
I think the most charitable explanation is lockdown fever. English has often been a little idiosyncratic, but rarely a dummy. This has been sub Gerry McNee nonsense from start to finish. The old adage 'if you're in a hole, stop digging' has rarely been so blithely ignored, so consistently, and for so little reward. Almost nobody cares about this dead horse he's flogging. It's so bizarre.
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16-06-2020 08:59 PM #49
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16-06-2020 10:16 PM #50
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And the token attempts to mask his clear Hearts allegiances are wafer thin, referring to them as 'hopeless Hearts' but then trying to imply County were more deserving candidates to go down because they'd only won two games in 13 (a spell during which, apparently, Hearts accumulated more points. Conveniently he doesn't mention that Hearts didn't actually win more games than County in that period, nor that County won seven games in 30 compared to Hearts' 4).
As the OP has pointed out, he's attempting to create a new narrative around this saga but is running out of ways to make it even remotely credible.
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17-06-2020 08:27 AM #51This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Also It's interesting how a BBC Sports department at Pacific Quay have so bought into the Budge mantra and whole resurrection of Hearts post 2013 myth. I have no time for the Govan mob but consider the kicking they got compared with the "isn't this wonderful" puke making rhetoric that Richard Gordon & co came out with about Hearts. They were at one time pushing Budge as head of the SFA which is absolutely unbelieveable.
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17-06-2020 09:55 AM #53
Budge was against permanent reconstruction so I’m sure she applauded the good sense and judgement of the majority of clubs which agreed with her.
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We forgive you
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17-06-2020 10:12 AM #55
Here's an interesting question that it seems nobody in the media has sought to ask.
If ICT are so against finishing the leagues based on points per game, and think that reconstruction to 14-10-10-10 is much fairer, then why should ICT be the team that was promoted, despite not being in the automatic promotion place?
What makes them so certain that Dundee (4 points behind ICT) or Ayr United (5 points behind ICT) couldn't possibly have caught them if the league was played to a conclusion?
The only reason it seems they could logically be chosen, as opposed to any of the other clubs in the Championship, was that they were in second place at the time the league was called. But surely they've already said that was unfair to decide league placings in that manner?
So how is that fair on those other clubs?
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