Coronavirus

[Ozyhibby]

Kids can’t go to school in Scotland but this is London yesterday? We are wasting our time now.


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[BroxburnHibee]

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Kids can’t go to school in Scotland but this is London yesterday? We are wasting our time now.


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Not sure we are wasting our time. Scottish Government is trying to make sure things like that dont happen up here.

[hibsbollah]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/42x...SL2XGZVv9C4rUg


Very good pod here about one Liverpool fans experience of the controversial Athletico Madrid game, Covid and its aftermath.

[Sir David Gray]

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Kids can’t go to school in Scotland but this is London yesterday? We are wasting our time now.


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Regardless of how justified they may have been in the message they were putting across, every single person who attended that protest yesterday has put lives at risk. Extremely reckless behaviour.

There's a time and a place for a peaceful protest and during a pandemic isn't it.

[Hibrandenburg]

The German government have announced a finance package to help the economy recover from Corona. VAT will be reduced on a temporary basis to encourage spending and families with children will receive an extra €300 per child as a one time payment. The document has 57 points all aimed at assisting the economy recover.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germany-unveils-stimulus-package-to-kickstart-economy/a-53677420

[Sir David Gray]

Daily Scottish update;

49 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 96 in hospital including a decrease of 21 in the confirmed cases
Decrease of 6 in intensive care
3758 have left hospital since 5th March
9 deaths registered since yesterday

First week day since 27th March that deaths registered are in single figures.

[Hibby Bairn]

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Daily Scottish update;

49 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 96 in hospital including a decrease of 21 in the confirmed cases
Decrease of 6 in intensive care
3758 have left hospital since 5th March
9 deaths registered since yesterday

First week day since 27th March that deaths registered are in single figures.

All good news (deaths of people of course excepted).

[PaulSmith]

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Daily Scottish update;

49 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 96 in hospital including a decrease of 21 in the confirmed cases
Decrease of 6 in intensive care
3758 have left hospital since 5th March
9 deaths registered since yesterday

First week day since 27th March that deaths registered are in single figures.

Delighted to see this coming down. Absolutely minuscule numbers in a population of 5.5m and I still struggle with the FM’s ascertain that the R number is closer to 1 than 0.5. Can anyone help?

Id love to know if the new cases were in a cluster or spread across the country, does anyone know if they share that info?

Hopefully it’s a fairly straightforward process through the phases.

[Since90+2]

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Daily Scottish update;

49 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 96 in hospital including a decrease of 21 in the confirmed cases
Decrease of 6 in intensive care
3758 have left hospital since 5th March
9 deaths registered since yesterday

First week day since 27th March that deaths registered are in single figures.

I wonder if Hospitals are getting better at understanding and treating the virus? Obviously there has been no breakthrough treatment but perhaps just better knowledge as weeks go by.

[Berwickhibby]

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Regardless of how justified they may have been in the message they were putting across, every single person who attended that protest yesterday has put lives at risk. Extremely reckless behaviour.

There's a time and a place for a peaceful protest and during a pandemic isn't it.

Apparently there is going to be a March in Edinburgh this Saturday

[Steve-O]

Might’ve been mentioned but here in NZ we are expecting to return to normal next week (aside from borders) and all bets are off, including social distancing! A quite remarkable effort really. At this point there is ONE active case, and we’ve had 2 weeks of no new cases. COVID eliminated in NZ.

[Sir David Gray]

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Delighted to see this coming down. Absolutely minuscule numbers in a population of 5.5m and I still struggle with the FM’s ascertain that the R number is closer to 1 than 0.5. Can anyone help?

Id love to know if the new cases were in a cluster or spread across the country, does anyone know if they share that info?

Hopefully it’s a fairly straightforward process through the phases.

Sturgeon has just said the R number is between 0.7 and 0.9 today, as opposed to between 0.7 and 1.0 last week.

She also said that she considers any deaths from this virus to be unacceptable. Reading between the lines, I feel she wants the number to be zero before anything significant is lifted.

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Apparently there is going to be a March in Edinburgh this Saturday

I just find it really shocking that some people seem to have such a blatant disregard for the safety of them and others.

Exactly the same as those who found it acceptable to have parties for VE Day last month and meeting in large numbers last weekend.

Really selfish people.

[CapitalGreen]

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Might’ve been mentioned but here in NZ we are expecting to return to normal next week (aside from borders) and all bets are off, including social distancing! A quite remarkable effort really. At this point there is ONE active case, and we’ve had 2 weeks of no new cases. COVID eliminated in NZ.

Proper virus eradication 👏🏻 👏🏻

More short term pain (earlier and stricter lockdown) resulting in hopefully greater long term gain for the country of New Zealand. Enjoy it mate 👍

[Sir David Gray]

Face coverings being made mandatory in public places is under review.

[RyeSloan]

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Delighted to see this coming down. Absolutely minuscule numbers in a population of 5.5m and I still struggle with the FM’s ascertain that the R number is closer to 1 than 0.5. Can anyone help?

Id love to know if the new cases were in a cluster or spread across the country, does anyone know if they share that info?

Hopefully it’s a fairly straightforward process through the phases.

The Cases by Health board table shows which health boards reported new cases yesterday....beyond that there is little further information released that I know of.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52009463

As you say I’ve no idea how R is being calculated when you have a statistically negligible number of new infections v the size of the population, maybe it’s got nothing to do with that but if so then what use is this often quoted number?

Actually now I think about it I’m sure Nicola promised us last week that the full calculation methodology on R was going to be shared this week...has anyone seen that at all?

[-Jonesy-]

More CV deaths in the UK last 24 hours than all 27 EU member states combined.

End the lockdown back to work though

[Hibrandenburg]

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More CV deaths in the UK last 24 hours than all 27 EU member states combined.

End the lockdown back to work though

And quarantine visitors to the UK when they really should be quarantined on the way out.

[-Jonesy-]

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And quarantine visitors to the UK when they really should be quarantined on the way out.

Aye but not until next Monday though

Stable door horse etc

[JimBHibees]

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The Cases by Health board table shows which health boards reported new cases yesterday....beyond that there is little further information released that I know of.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52009463

As you say I’ve no idea how R is being calculated when you have a statistically negligible number of new infections v the size of the population, maybe it’s got nothing to do with that but if so then what use is this often quoted number?

Actually now I think about it I’m sure Nicola promised us last week that the full calculation methodology on R was going to be shared this week...has anyone seen that at all?

Released today.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...nd-issue-no-3/

[JimBHibees]

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Face coverings being made mandatory in public places is under review.

Was it not only for shops and public transport?

[Ozyhibby]

https://unherd.com/2020/06/karl-fris...e-to-covid-19/

Might explain the lack of a 2nd wave anywhere?


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[Sir David Gray]

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Was it not only for shops and public transport?

Any indoor public place as far as I'm aware.

[RyeSloan]

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Released today.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...nd-issue-no-3/

Perfect thanks! That’s my night time reading sorted

[JeMeSouviens]

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The Cases by Health board table shows which health boards reported new cases yesterday....beyond that there is little further information released that I know of.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52009463

As you say I’ve no idea how R is being calculated when you have a statistically negligible number of new infections v the size of the population, maybe it’s got nothing to do with that but if so then what use is this often quoted number?

Actually now I think about it I’m sure Nicola promised us last week that the full calculation methodology on R was going to be shared this week...has anyone seen that at all?

It's got absolutely nothing to do with population size. If R (effective) is below 1, then the number of cases will eventually hit 0. The lower Re, the faster the decline.

So say Re is 0.5. You start with 1000 infectious people (who haven't infected anyone else yet) and their average time of infectiousness is 10 days and their average time of becoming non-infectious (by recovering or dying) is also 10 days. Then, after 10 days you would expect to have 500 infectious people (500 newly infected, the original 1000 recovered). Then you ease things and Re jumps to 0.9. After another 10 days you'd have 450.

Unfortunately, that's a gross over-simplification because you have to slide the window of infectiousness and the window of recovery over the time period and they will be different sizes. Plus, Re is going to vary place to place by number of people each person is in contact with, what measures they're taking, etc etc etc.

You can see why they struggle to come up with a good number.

[JimBHibees]

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And quarantine visitors to the UK when they really should be quarantined on the way out.

Yep pretty ironic that. Will be interesting to see how many European countries are willing to open their borders to UK holidaymakers this summer. Get the impression there will be understable reluctance to open up until things get better in UK.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Yep pretty ironic that. Will be interesting to see how many European countries are willing to open their borders to UK holidaymakers this summer. Get the impression there will be understable reluctance to open up until things get better in UK.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1268225660796968960

WTF

[stokesmessiah]

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Yep pretty ironic that. Will be interesting to see how many European countries are willing to open their borders to UK holidaymakers this summer. Get the impression there will be understable reluctance to open up until things get better in UK.

Portugal were all over it this week saying they would welcome U.K. visitors with no quarantine.

[jonty]

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https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1268225660796968960

WTF

FFS he doesnt do irony does he, the blabbering fool.

absolute ****ing disgrace

[Hibrandenburg]

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FFS he doesnt do irony does he, the blabbering fool.

absolute ****ing disgrace

And as you can see, your tip about copy and pasting on my mobile doesn't work.

[JeMeSouviens]

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https://unherd.com/2020/06/karl-fris...e-to-covid-19/

Might explain the lack of a 2nd wave anywhere?


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That just doesn't ring true.

It contends the Imperial College modellers were wrong because we didn't have 80% of the population infected, so we have to explain that by saying 80% of the population weren't susceptible.

But, the IC 80% assumed no interventions and, in case we hadn't noticed, we've had months of lockdown! And, iirc, the IC model did predict around the level of infections we have had with the sort of lockdown interventions we've had.

Like most stuff on unherd, it probably boils down to right-wing propaganda. In this case, anti-lockdown propaganda.