Coronavirus

[SideBurns]

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There's two sides to the coin with the good weather, I'm fairly sure they will be concerned if there is a spell of persistent rain as the last thing they will want is people who have adjusted to the easing of lockdown then entering each others houses to maintain contact.

That's very true.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Any students that were staying in accommodation away from their family home were allowed to travel home to isolate there, as it was presumably felt to be safer.

One of the students at my work was taken home from Glasgow to the Borders by her Dad, as she can't drive and they thought there was less of a risk of her traveling that way than on public transport (two trains and a bus).

Cummings has a house in London and access to all and any health care he needed. He presumably had access to someone to take care of his child in the unlikely event that both parents were suddenly incapable of doing so.

But who am I to judge...

This isn't going away anytime soon.
https://universalcreditsuffer.com/2020/05/31/cummings-spare-cottage-without-planning-permission-and-pays-no-council-tax/

[silverhibee]

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It looks like the UK government have just abandoned the idea of controlling this, what happened to the strict 5 tests that had to be met for each stage?

I had been really positive that we'd avoid a second wave and that we were pretty much past the worst. I am much less confident now.

Looking at things across the world, the 2 countries who should not be having as many deaths are and will both have 2nd waves that will kill many more, USA due to rioting and UK who are run by lying clowns and have gave the go ahead to do as you want, lockdown is over and we will suffer for it, all to protect one man, and the attitude of the British people is not helping, drink drugs and beach parties are going on everywhere.

[Andy Bee]

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This isn't going away anytime soon.
https://universalcreditsuffer.com/20...o-council-tax/

It seems the so called "isolated from the main building cottage" could be a swimming pool . Planning shows the only building work applied for is to cover an existing swimming pool. There's only one isolated building at that address therefore it must be the swimming pool naw? . That would certainly account for the no council tax registration but doesn't help the DC case of staying apart from his parents.

https://publicaccess.durham.gov.uk/o...iveTab=summary

[lapsedhibee]

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It seems the so called "isolated from the main building cottage" could be a swimming pool . Planning shows the only building work applied for is to cover an existing swimming pool. There's only one isolated building at that address therefore it must be the swimming pool naw? . That would certainly account for the no council tax registration but doesn't help the DC case of staying apart from his parents.

https://publicaccess.durham.gov.uk/o...iveTab=summary

Did the Cummingses senior consult Durham Polis on how to prevent anyone coming on site to check whether the building still is a pool?

[Moulin Yarns]

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It seems the so called "isolated from the main building cottage" could be a swimming pool . Planning shows the only building work applied for is to cover an existing swimming pool. There's only one isolated building at that address therefore it must be the swimming pool naw? . That would certainly account for the no council tax registration but doesn't help the DC case of staying apart from his parents.

https://publicaccess.durham.gov.uk/o...iveTab=summary

Or the swimming pool is part of the sprawling North Lodge building occupied by Cummings senior or his sister and neice?

The photos show a new cottage with green metal profile roof.

[Hibby Bairn]

Interesting new science development....

https://elemental.medium.com/coronav...g-2c4032481ab2

And related FT article from 3 weeks ago....

https://www.ft.com/content/be7e66c0-...f-8b192c18acff

[SideBurns]

Australia now only has 21 people in hospital, and 92% of the total 7200 cases have recovered.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Interesting new science development....

https://elemental.medium.com/coronav...g-2c4032481ab2

And related FT article from 3 weeks ago....

https://www.ft.com/content/be7e66c0-...f-8b192c18acff

Interesting, thanks. I wonder if that ties in to the correlation with age and obesity making outcomes much worse?

[Rocky]

Just in case anyone here registered an interest in the contact tracing vacancies, I just noticed I had an email from them yesterday which went to spam folder.

[Sir David Gray]

Daily Scottish update;

18 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 27 in hospital and an increase of 3 in confirmed cases
No change in intensive care numbers
3695 have left hospital since 5th March
1 death registered since yesterday

[Sir David Gray]

Police dispersal orders yesterday 5 times higher than the previous week, Sturgeon threatening tougher measures if it continues.

[patch1875]

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Just in case anyone here registered an interest in the contact tracing vacancies, I just noticed I had an email from them yesterday which went to spam folder.

My wife applied but has heard nothing (Nothing in the spam folder either)

[Rocky]

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My wife applied but has heard nothing (Nothing in the spam folder either)

The email I got contains links to jobs that are now posted on website and says to apply from there.

https://apply.jobs.scot.nhs.uk/displayjob.aspx?jobid=23360

https://apply.jobs.scot.nhs.uk/displayjob.aspx?jobid=23362

I was interested as it originally said they were looking for data analysts but the vacancies above are for tracers and team leaders.

[patch1875]

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The email I got contains links to jobs that are now posted on website and says to apply from there.

https://apply.jobs.scot.nhs.uk/displayjob.aspx?jobid=23360

https://apply.jobs.scot.nhs.uk/displayjob.aspx?jobid=23362

I was interested as it originally said they were looking for data analysts but the vacancies above are for tracers and team leaders.

Ok thanks she thought it was just the same as what was online a few weeks ago so not sure if you have to do it all again?

[SideBurns]

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Police dispersal orders yesterday 5 times higher than the previous week, Sturgeon threatening tougher measures if it continues.

In some respects the easing of restrictions coinciding with a scorcher of a weekend was unfortunate timing and some flouting of rules was inevitable, but she's being pretty blunt about the potential consequences. We all went to get to phase 2 asap, rather than go back the way.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Daily Scottish update;

18 new cases since yesterday
Decrease of 27 in hospital and an increase of 3 in confirmed cases
No change in intensive care numbers
3695 have left hospital since 5th March
1 death registered since yesterday

7 day rolling average of new cases has dipped below 50 for the first time since March 25th.

[SideBurns]

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7 day rolling average of new cases has dipped below 50 for the first time since March 25th.

Thanks, more good news. With a bit of commonsense employed in the next few weeks, hopefully the figures will be sufficiently low to persuade the Govt we can move to the 2nd phase.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Thanks, more good news. With a bit of commonsense employed in the next few weeks, hopefully the figures will be sufficiently low to persuade the Govt we can move to the 2nd phase.

The guidance is fraying all over the place.

You can either think people have done their research, fastened on to the rapid dispersal of viral particles in the open air and concluded the risk is minimal or they've just had enough of playing by the rules. They've been given an inch so are taking a mile. Hmmmm.

I don't think this will have much of an impact while everyone is outdoors. I'm very nervous about what's going to happen when people get to move inside and fail to follow guidance then.

Hopefully we at least get more effective treatment before the 2nd wave. I guess also that test+protect should get more effective over time.

[B.H.F.C]

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The guidance is fraying all over the place.

You can either think people have done their research, fastened on to the rapid dispersal of viral particles in the open air and concluded the risk is minimal or they've just had enough of playing by the rules. They've been given an inch so are taking a mile. Hmmmm.

I don't think this will have much of an impact while everyone is outdoors. I'm very nervous about what's going to happen when people get to move inside and fail to follow guidance then.

Hopefully we at least get more effective treatment before the 2nd wave. I guess also that test+protect should get more effective over time.

On that last part about test and protect, are the SG still releasing figures on how many people they are testing?

[Kato]

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The guidance is fraying all over the place.

You can either think people have done their research, fastened on to the rapid dispersal of viral particles in the open air and concluded the risk is minimal or they've just had enough of playing by the rules. They've been given an inch so are taking the distance to Barnard Castle. Hmmmm.

I don't think this will have much of an impact while everyone is outdoors. I'm very nervous about what's going to happen when people get to move inside and fail to follow guidance then.

Hopefully we at least get more effective treatment before the 2nd wave. I guess also that test+protect should get more effective over time.

Bit in bold shows a fix to your post.

[Sir David Gray]

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On that last part about test and protect, are the SG still releasing figures on how many people they are testing?

2096 tests carried out yesterday.

[danhibees1875]

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2096 tests carried out yesterday.

That sounds a lot more promising than the stats that were being banded about a few weeks ago.

UK figures this week will provide an insight into what's happened 3 weeks after VE day weekend and lockdown easing down South.

[JeMeSouviens]

Editorial in the BMJ, not holding back!

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m2102

Johnson’s darkest hour, his decision to essentially prioritise Cummings over the pandemic response, had at least three immediate effects. First and foremost, it seriously damaged public trust and goodwill in complying with lockdown measures, risking a deadlier next wave of infection. Second, it belittled staff and patients who have risen to complex logistic, clinical and personal challenges while delivering care (doi:10.1136/bmj.m2043, doi:10.1136/bmj.m2055, doi:10.1136/bmj.m2062, doi:10.1136/bmj.m1987). Third, it forced the government’s scientific advisers into open dissent (doi:10.1136/bmj.m2109).

Scientists and doctors in advisory positions face a dual obligation to the state and to the public. But what happens when the government’s integrity no longer matches your personal or professional integrity, when your public accountability seems greater than that of the politicians you advise? Do you fight from within? Do you speak out, and even resign? What of the leaders of medical organisations working closely with the government? Regrettably, questions of conscience and duty must now be addressed.

[Kato]

Timeline of the Govts actions and highlights of Boris's "leadership".


https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...98481469194240

[Keith_M]

If I'm now allowed to drive to a park for recreational purposes, why are the car parks at these destinations still closed?




We heard that the Garden Centre at Rouken Glen Park (a 20 minute drive from our house) was open, so we went there for a visit and found that half of the car park was closed, but other half open for the Garden Centre.


So most of the car Park was taken up by people visiting the Park


How stupid is that!

[Sir David Gray]

No coronavirus deaths recorded in the last 24 hours in Spain which is the first time since March.

[Keith_M]

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No coronavirus deaths recorded in the last 24 hours in Spain which is the first time since March.

Fantastic news

[Callum_62]

111 deaths in England announced today but an increase in yesterday's total deaths of 556

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[lapsedhibee]

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111 deaths in England announced today but an increase in yesterday's total deaths of 556

Think they dispersed the missing 445 by adding them to previous days' totals. Without saying so. Genius. Cummings must be fully recovered.