The generic Hearts thread

[Keith_M]

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They would still have to queue and with social distancing the queue could go all the way to London Road.

Only if they're stupid enough to only open a couple of turnstyles.

I think there's about forty* in total and they could surely open half of those and retain social distancing.

The punters could also help by arriving that bit earlier than usual (not a problem if the pubs are shut)



* Just checked online and there's fifty three.

[Ronniekirk]

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How would we get to our seats - dropped in by crane/chopper? You would have to go to the first available row and got to the end, repeat until row is full then keep repeating for each row. What happens when one punter needs a pee? How would we get past each other? How many stewards needed to supervise this? How many stewards could actually cope with this. With social distancing for the queues from Easter Road or Lochend and into the stadium and to your seat it would take hours and hours to get the required amount of punters seated. If you're first in and last out you will have to allow for the about 6/7 hours (including the match, queuing and getting in and out). My timings are all guesswork but you see where I'm going with this? Not easy.

My wife wouldn’t believe me if I was away that long plus another three hours travel
I would stay in a hotel the night before
Oh wait no hotels open ffs


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[Jones28]

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Show your working!

If it's 2m distancing then I think you're talking about 1/6 of capacity aren't you? So 3500 for ER.

Yes if everyone had to sit individually, but like lord bunberry has said there would be groupings from the same house that could sit together.

But it’s most likely less than 7000.

[Barney McGrew]

More from @JamTarts Ann Budge on 14-14-14/14-14-16 reasoning: "The proposed changes, creating 3 bigger leagues, means that if, unfortunately, some Clubs cannot see a way to play this season, there will hopefully be sufficient Clubs in each League to allow the Season to go ahead. The Premiership needs Hearts more than the Championship does. The Championship needs @PartickThistle more than the lower Leagues do. Let’s focus on dealing with the problem of saving Scottish Football from a position which plays to our strengths and minimizes our weaknesses"

[SaulGoodman]

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More from @JamTarts Ann Budge on 14-14-14/14-14-16 reasoning: "The proposed changes, creating 3 bigger leagues, means that if, unfortunately, some Clubs cannot see a way to play this season, there will hopefully be sufficient Clubs in each League to allow the Season to go ahead. The Premiership needs Hearts more than the Championship does. The Championship needs @PartickThistle more than the lower Leagues do. Let’s focus on dealing with the problem of saving Scottish Football from a position which plays to our strengths and minimizes our weaknesses"

Just want to thank Anne Budge for completely destroying her whole plan in one sentence. “The premiership needs Hearts more than the championship does” mental.

[Barney McGrew]

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Just want to thank Anne Budge for completely destroying her whole plan in one sentence. “The premiership needs Hearts more than the championship does” mental.

That sentence sums their horrible club up perfectly. They think they’re better than everyone else and have a right to play in the Premiership regardless of how pish they are.

[Irish_Steve]

A horrible club with horrible fans

Jambofox: The SPFL and lots of clubs are desperate to get Ann’s proposal ASAP so they can kick it out.



Ann just make them wait .... slowly clubs will die one by one and the remainder will be desperate for survival ...... just make them wait until they promise to vote yes and do it it the Hearts way - Gorgie Rules!



And if so many clubs die that Scottish football ceases to exist in its current format just walk away and find somewhere else to play! A club like Hearts will be a major asset to any league!

[Dashing Bob S]

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Just want to thank Anne Budge for completely destroying her whole plan in one sentence. “The premiership needs Hearts more than the championship does” mental.

This is meant to be arrogant as the whole exercise is about engendering the sense of entitlement and subsequent victimhood required to create the siege mentality to get the dim supporters to pay for their crisis.

No way is this about reorganization- that ship barely left the port, let alone ever sailed.

[The Spaceman]

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A horrible club with horrible fans

Jambofox: The SPFL and lots of clubs are desperate to get Ann’s proposal ASAP so they can kick it out.



Ann just make them wait .... slowly clubs will die one by one and the remainder will be desperate for survival ...... just make them wait until they promise to vote yes and do it it the Hearts way - Gorgie Rules!



And if so many clubs die that Scottish football ceases to exist in its current format just walk away and find somewhere else to play! A club like Hearts will be a major asset to any league!

Gorgie Rules is the single most cringeworthy expression I know in football. That is even trying to be objective. Cringe, cringe, cringe.

[Jones28]

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Take East stand as an example

32 rows at 232 seats per row

Simplifying the back of the fag packet calculation

32 rows high by 232 seats wide

3 rows vertical = c2m
Row width =120m
Seating area =2400m squared
Supporter space = 2m squared

1200 supporters in East socially distanced
1200 supporters in West
900 supporters in FF
900 supporters in South
Total of 4200 fans on seating decks

Fill in the corners and at a push 5000 max socially distanced fans at a game.😉

That’s a ****ing big fag packet you’ve got there.

[jacomo]

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A horrible club with horrible fans

Jambofox: The SPFL and lots of clubs are desperate to get Ann’s proposal ASAP so they can kick it out.



Ann just make them wait .... slowly clubs will die one by one and the remainder will be desperate for survival ...... just make them wait until they promise to vote yes and do it it the Hearts way - Gorgie Rules!



And if so many clubs die that Scottish football ceases to exist in its current format just walk away and find somewhere else to play! A club like Hearts will be a major asset to any league!

They are a major embarrassment.

[Waxy]

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Hes the guy who posted this before they played St Mirren.

Zero shame.

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Not only that, but the premier needs hearts more than the championship does.

[Rumble de Thump]

The Premier league needs teams of a much higher quality than Hearts. And ideally ones that live within their means.

[Bostonhibby]

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The Premier league needs teams of a much higher quality than Hearts. And ideally ones that live within their means.

Yep, they toiled all season, overspending specifically to stay up and still couldn't get off the bottom, not good enough for the premier league on merit. They might have a right good go at improving enough in their championship season to be of sufficient quality to stay up next time they're in the top flight.

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[JimBHibees]

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Just want to thank Anne Budge for completely destroying her whole plan in one sentence. “The premiership needs Hearts more than the championship does” mental.

What a staggeringly stupid thing to put in a proposal to try and garner support for your grand plan. Clueless doesn't cover it.

[Keith_M]

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Fans from the same household will be able to sit together.

Seriously? I'm handing my Season Ticket back in protest.

[ballengeich]

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A horrible club with horrible fans

Jambofox: The SPFL and lots of clubs are desperate to get Ann’s proposal ASAP so they can kick it out.



Ann just make them wait .... slowly clubs will die one by one and the remainder will be desperate for survival ...... just make them wait until they promise to vote yes and do it it the Hearts way - Gorgie Rules!



And if so many clubs die that Scottish football ceases to exist in its current format just walk away and find somewhere else to play! A club like Hearts will be a major asset to any league!

How does the proposed restructure make any difference to clubs' survival? Will play resume sooner? Will the Covid virus leave town knowing it can't outwit the superhero Mrs Budge?

There's a similar delusion on sevco fan sites. Clubs releasing players is a result of ending the season early then not supporting Rangers request for an investigation into the vote.

The occasional sensible post pointing out that financial problems are the result of a pandemic rather than SPFL procedures gets ignored or shouted down.

[calumhibee1]

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How does the proposed restructure make any difference to clubs' survival? Will play resume sooner? Will the Covid virus leave town knowing it can't outwit the superhero Mrs Budge?

There's a similar delusion on sevco fan sites. Clubs releasing players is a result of ending the season early then not supporting Rangers request for an investigation into the vote.

The occasional sensible post pointing out that financial problems are the result of a pandemic rather than SPFL procedures gets ignored or shouted down.

I just asked that elsewhere.

They keep saying this is going to save the clubs/Scottish football, but how does this make teams more likely to survive? It’s like they’ve just decided that’s the narrative they’re going with and never once decided to explain why clubs other than Hearts and Inverness will be better off because of this?

[PatHead]

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Seriously? I'm handing my Season Ticket back in protest.

Fortunately my sons have left home.

[jacomo]

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I just asked that elsewhere.

They keep saying this is going to save the clubs/Scottish football, but how does this make teams more likely to survive? It’s like they’ve just decided that’s the narrative they’re going with and never once decided to explain why clubs other than Hearts and Inverness will be better off because of this?

It doesn’t.

A 14 team top flight is the worst possible compromise - changes a league which has seen rising attendances in recent years and a newly signed TV deal... for what?

[PatHead]

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I just asked that elsewhere.

They keep saying this is going to save the clubs/Scottish football, but how does this make teams more likely to survive? It’s like they’ve just decided that’s the narrative they’re going with and never once decided to explain why clubs other than Hearts and Inverness will be better off because of this?

Probably got Dominic Cummings to write it. Seems like his style.

[jacomo]

Is there a reason why Hearts haven’t published this proposal in full on their website?

The SPFL, all the clubs and the media get to read it - why don’t the fans?

[JohnMcM]

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A horrible club with horrible fans

Jambofox: The SPFL and lots of clubs are desperate to get Ann’s proposal ASAP so they can kick it out.



Ann just make them wait .... slowly clubs will die one by one and the remainder will be desperate for survival ...... just make them wait until they promise to vote yes and do it it the Hearts way - Gorgie Rules!



And if so many clubs die that Scottish football ceases to exist in its current format just walk away and find somewhere else to play! A club like Hearts will be a major asset to any league!

That is simply staggering in it's belligerence, self importance and lack of empathy. This person probably needs serious help to be re-integrated back into normal society.

[jonty]

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More from @JamTarts Ann Budge on 14-14-14/14-14-16 reasoning: "The proposed changes, creating 3 bigger leagues, means that if, unfortunately, some Clubs cannot see a way to play this season, there will hopefully be sufficient Clubs in each League to allow the Season to go ahead. The Premiership needs Hearts more than the Championship does. The Championship needs @PartickThistle more than the lower Leagues do. Let’s focus on dealing with the problem of saving Scottish Football from a position which plays to our strengths and minimizes our weaknesses"

Hearts need the premier league more than the premier league needs Hearts.
And Championship clubs will welcome the increased number of Hearts fans (well, for the money) over the limited number of Partick fans, surely?


Very Cummings-esque. "Its all about me and I don't give a **** who can see through this bull****"

[Greenworld]

Hearts have offered to fund COVID-19 testing for other Scottish clubs should their reconstruction proposal be accepted, with their mystery benefactors committing their support for a further five years.

Now I'm not legal expert but this has to be Bribery or other longer legal words .

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[Keith_M]

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Hearts have offered to fund COVID-19 testing for other Scottish clubs should their reconstruction proposal be accepted, with their mystery benefactors committing their support for a further five years.

Now I'm not legal expert but this has to be Bribery or other longer legal words .

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So now it's both Bribery and Threats. What a classy bunch.

[007]

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Hearts have offered to fund COVID-19 testing for other Scottish clubs should their reconstruction proposal be accepted, with their mystery benefactors committing their support for a further five years.

Now I'm not legal expert but this has to be Bribery or other longer legal words .

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Blackmail is a longer word.

[Jones28]

Why can’t the mystery benefactor support them throughout their spell in the championship instead?

[Smartie]

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Just want to thank Anne Budge for completely destroying her whole plan in one sentence. “The premiership needs Hearts more than the championship does” mental.

In all fairness, the Championship already has maroon pounds from having Arbroath in there.

[CockneyRebel]

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Only if they're stupid enough to only open a couple of turnstyles.

I think there's about forty* in total and they could surely open half of those and retain social distancing.

The punters could also help by arriving that bit earlier than usual (not a problem if the pubs are shut)



* Just checked online and there's fifty three.

So we'd have approx 25 queues instead of approx 5/6? You would have to have 1 queue for each entrance (5/6?) which would then split into however many turnstyles are open within each entrance - not nearly enough space for social distancing unless you have hunnerds of stewards, who would need to patrol the whole length of each queue (including those inside/outside the stadium and beyond) until everyone was in. You have to break it down fully to see how horrendous the logistics become if the full range of safety precautions are applied to the whole exercise even with a restricted attendance.