If Hibs vote for temporary re-construction, what will you do?

[BoomtownHibees]

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Wouldn’t be relegation as such we would just revert to the league setup that we have now i.e. Hearts back in the championship like I said. Would lead to a tonne of pointless games at the back end of the season mind you. But if it’s that or pro teams in the championship going bust?

So who would play in the Championship the next season?

And if Hearts somehow won the league next year then they would play in the Championship the next season??

[Ozyhibby]

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Or perhaps this is a sign of the "soft" mentality which has plagued hibs for the majority of my life supporting the team. I expect hibs to take the stance which inflicts the most damage on our arch rivals. This wont be to the detriment of hibs. We'll get a bounce. We'll hopefully stamp our authority on the fixture and no 1 club in edinburgh status.

100% agree. Hibs should not be wasting money helping Hearts. Reconstruction will cost us money. At times like this we should not be wasting money while asking the fans to buy season tickets for games that may not go ahead. It would be the height of cheek.


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[skyhibs]

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I'd be pissed off but anyone choosing not to renew a ST for solely that reason, as opposed to financial considerations or the like, needs to get a grip.

Its you that needs to get a grip.... if I or anyone else decides not to buy a season ticket for whatever reason they choose, then that’s up to them

[Gloucester Hibs]

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So who would play in the Championship the next season?

And if Hearts somehow won the league next year then they would play in the Championship the next season??

There would be no championship. Just a temporary reconstructed top division - for one season only - featuring all pro sides able to put out a team. A one-off. The following season it’s “as you were” with hearts back in the championship.

This is just my thinking btw not what Budge or anyone I’m aware of is proposing.

[Keith_M]

Isn't it amazing that something that hasn't even happened is causing some people to squabble on here.... again.

[H18S NX]

I have already got my tkts for next season but,if the reconstruction takes place i would'nt go back,they can keep the money,if they are allowed back then to me that is total capitulation,so it is a NO from me.

[JimBHibees]

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This is our chance to put distance between us for a few years
Hearts will be back, but it will take them a few years to get upto Hibs level

Agree great opportunity to build a gap between the clubs and one imo they would take without a minutes thought.

[H18 SFR]

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I have already got my tkts for next season but,if the reconstruction takes place i would'nt go back,they can keep the money,if they are allowed back then to me that is total capitulation,so it is a NO from me.

Normally if I read a comment like yours I’d be saying, rant, nonsense, step away from the computer etc. However, I am 100% with you on this if Hibs vote yes to save them.

They can ram it as far as I’m concerned.

[H18 SFR]

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I'd be pissed off but anyone choosing not to renew a ST for solely that reason, as opposed to financial considerations or the like, needs to get a grip.

You are a very prominent poster on here and I can’t really say that I’ve disagreed with you much, I’ve got to say I have a different view point on this one.

[flash]

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Its you that needs to get a grip.... if I or anyone else decides not to buy a season ticket for whatever reason they choose, then that’s up to them

It is up to them. This is a forum though so expect some comments.

[number9dream]

[QUOTE=lucky;6180830]The Hibs board should do what’s best for Hibs regardless of whether that saves Hearts but I can’t see how the two are compatible[/QUOTE

Exactly. If someone can present a cogent argument for a new set up being better than the one we already have, then I’m all for it. However, I have yet to see one. Is a 14-14-14 system really going to be a game changer for Scottish football?

[lord bunberry]

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All this thread proves is the Hertz still live rent free in too many people's heads even after our Cup win.

I can’t believe any hibs fan would ever say that, especially on a hibs forum.

[theonlywayisup]

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We've already voted on this and the overwhelming majority didn't want it. Getting sick of reconstruction talk. Not aiming that at the OP btw. We've voted and need to move on.

Acknowledged, but I think things have moved on since the last vote. Last time it felt like re-construction was for the good of the game in Scotland. Now it seems the only reason for re-construction is that it's unfair for Hertz to be relegated - the sympathy vote.

Don't know what the vote was like last time, but I sense more people will be angered if Hibs vote "yes, to save Hertz".

I voted that I'll continue to support Hibs - there's no choice in that one - however, I would be very angry if it was our vote that kept Hertz in the Scottish Premiership and for them to return to the same ways of spending money that don't have.

[theonlywayisup]

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If the shoe was on the other foot, would they be voting to save us? Not a chance. They remain the only club in world football who attempted a hostile takeover of their rivals in an attempt to close us down. We should vote in the best interests of Hibs and vote for us being the only premiership team in Edinburgh. That will help bring in what very little commercial income in Edinburgh there is available next season to us.

Financially, every club in Scotland is in trouble right now, including us. We need to get the game started again in some capacity by August in order to bring in income. Any reconstruction will result in us sharing that income with others. We can’t afford to do that. The club can’t vote to just give away money and in the same breath ask the fans not to ask for refunds on games they can’t attend.
If we are playing behind closed doors for some games next season then that will become an issue again and I’ll happily not ask for a refund again so long as I know the club are not just giving away money by expanding the league.


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As always, I find I agree with much of what you say.

[calumhibee1]

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I can’t believe any hibs fan would ever say that, especially on a hibs forum.

[Alfred E Newman]

I'd obviously continue to support Hibs but I would be very disappointed if they backed any plan that wasn't in the Scottish games best interest but solely to save Hearts.

[southern hibby]

This is obviously a very very divisive issue among supporters. I want Hibs to do what’s best for Hibs and not For Hearts. If they vote No great and if they vote yes then I would at least expect a reasonable reason why the change of vote.

I personally have followed Hibs through thick and thin and after what Mercer did to us I genuinely wouldn’t give them the steam of my p ss. I’m definitely in the you made your bed lie in it camp. However make no mistake they will come back stronger next year if not relegated.

How would I vote about supporting Hibs. I will always support Hibs but what I won’t do Is expect the board to vote just to save Hearts at our expense. The number of fans who have stated they won’t be back or asking for a refund etc should signal alarm bells how the fans feel.

However all said and done I expect Hibs to Vote No.

GGTTH

[Pretty Boy]

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Its you that needs to get a grip.... if I or anyone else decides not to buy a season ticket for whatever reason they choose, then that’s up to them

If people do choose to do that then it is indeed up to them. It's pretty stupid reasoning though.

In the unlikely event Hibs do vote for reconstruction then it won't be with a view to saving Hearts, it will be because we have identified positives to come out of it for ourselves. I'm not suggesting I would like it or even agree but that's what it would come down to. Hibs aren't going to vote in a certain manner just to spite our own fans. Indeed I'd go as far as to say even if the case for reconstruction was extremely compelling there would be a reluctance to vote for it because of an acceptance some fans need to be appeased.

Hibs fans choosing to withdraw their support because of it and punishing the club at this time doesn't see a particularly logical reaction to me. If people choose to do that then fine, I'll choose to criticise them.

[Eyrie]

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The Hibs board should do what’s best for Hibs regardless of whether that saves Hearts but I can’t see how the two are compatible

Exactly. If someone can present a cogent argument for a new set up being better than the one we already have, then I’m all for it. However, I have yet to see one. Is a 14-14-14 system really going to be a game changer for Scottish football?

Yes.

For the worse.

[The 90+2]

The club won’t want to lose money and custom. They aren’t daft.

No danger they will vote for reconstruction under any circumstances.

If they do, they will have lost the trust of the support.

[The 90+2]

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If people do choose to do that then it is indeed up to them. It's pretty stupid reasoning though.

In the unlikely event Hibs do vote for reconstruction then it won't be with a view to saving Hearts, it will be because we have identified positives to come out of it for ourselves. I'm not suggesting I would like it or even agree but that's what it would come down to. Hibs aren't going to vote in a certain manner just to spite our own fans. Indeed I'd go as far as to say even if the case for reconstruction was extremely compelling there would be a reluctance to vote for it because of an acceptance some fans need to be appeased.

Hibs fans choosing to withdraw their support because of it and punishing the club at this time doesn't see a particularly logical reaction to me. If people choose to do that then fine, I'll choose to criticise them.

How would you suggest the support let the board and chairman know how unhappy they are in the parallel universe they vote to keep the gunts up? It’s the trickiest situation ever if it happens, talk about catch 22.

[Real Emerald]

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If people do choose to do that then fine. It's pretty stupid reasoning though.

In the unlikely event Hibs do vote for reconstruction then it won't be with a view to saving Hearts, it will be because we have identified positives to come out of it for us. I'm not suggesting I would like it or even agree.

Hibs fans choosing to withdraw their support because of it and punishing the club at this time doesn't see a particularly logical reaction to me. If people choose to do that then fine, I'll choose to criticise them.

Reconstruction to a 14 team league is purely to save Hearts and has nothing to do with saving Scottish football. I’ve supported Hibs all my life and have had a ST along with my son for many years. Sitting at Hampden watching us being demolished 5-1 by a club who couldn’t afford the players on the pitch, couldn’t pay there wages but still managed to sign a new striker who scored the winning semi final goal stuck in my craw. They were £20m in debt needing to sell Tynecastle when Robinson sold them to Romanov after overspending for years. Then they went on a ridiculous spending spree ending up being very fortunate to survive at all. Six years on and they’ve done the exact same again. After many years I’ve come to the point I can’t watch that anymore and would feel cheated if there was no comeuppance for their actions. I wouldn’t want to go back and watch it all happen again. That’s why I would be out.

[Pretty Boy]

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How would you suggest the support let the board and chairman know how unhappy they are in the parallel universe they vote to keep the gunts up? It’s the trickiest situation ever if it happens, talk about catch 22.

Do you think Hibs don't know how the fans feel about this?

Anyway I'm out because this is going to end up in a needlessly heated discussion about something that isn't going to happen.

[Mikey]

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If people do choose to do that then it is indeed up to them. It's pretty stupid reasoning though.

In the unlikely event Hibs do vote for reconstruction then it won't be with a view to saving Hearts, it will be because we have identified positives to come out of it for ourselves. I'm not suggesting I would like it or even agree but that's what it would come down to. Hibs aren't going to vote in a certain manner just to spite our own fans. Indeed I'd go as far as to say even if the case for reconstruction was extremely compelling there would be a reluctance to vote for it because of an acceptance some fans need to be appeased.

Hibs fans choosing to withdraw their support because of it and punishing the club at this time doesn't see a particularly logical reaction to me. If people choose to do that then fine, I'll choose to criticise them.

If Hibs vote for it and we're no worse off then I'll at least wait to see how things come out in the wash. If we, and every other team, takes a hit to save them then the game's up.

[Col2]

Can’t seem to vote on my iPhone but - B for me, would ask for refund.

The goodwill Hibs have from fans would be destroyed with one wrong vote.

[PatHead]

I want us to vote against reconstruction. However, if we voted for it I would continue to support Hibs. I would feel very pissed off though.

A lot of the goodwill that has built up over the last few months would disappear though.

[Col2]

I hope KP can get the opportunity to relay fans views based on the outcome of this pole.

[Onion]

We're in a game of poker here with Budge. No point is showing our hand just now

[Waxy]

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I can’t believe any hibs fan would ever say that, especially on a hibs forum.

They wouldnt.

[The 90+2]

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Do you think Hibs don't know how the fans feel about this?

Anyway I'm out because this is going to end up in a needlessly heated discussion about something that isn't going to happen.

Definitely and definitely.

I was only asking a hypothetical question mate. I would question the motives behind the op and the poll more than question the answer 😁