The generic Hearts thread

***GonzoReturns*** · 16-05-2020 02:36 PM

You would have to assume dialogue has already taken place with Sky who might have indicated that under the present circumstances (games behind closed doors) they would rather have the Edinburgh derby as one of those games. I don’t believe reconstruction would be taking place if Sky haven’t already had some input.

***CapitalGreen*** · 16-05-2020 02:38 PM

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Where do you draw the line
Bottom should automatically go down, and then play offs would play 2nd bottom
They just won’t play all these games.

That’s my point, there’s no way of doing it that will please everyone so why change the status quo just to appease Hearts. If Hearts don’t deserve relegation then by the same logic ICT don’t deserve promotion.

***Thief*** · 16-05-2020 02:39 PM

Just my opinion, but something extraordinary has been brought up at the meeting yesterday, to bring this about, and I don’t think for a second it’s anything to do with hearts taking legal action.
I think it’s more likely that Hearts have laid all their cards on the table and admitted that not being part of the top league will lead to admin 2 or perhaps worse in the face of an imminent recession.
Following the no reconstruction meeting last week, it just seems a bizarre turn around.

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***Jones28*** · 16-05-2020 02:42 PM

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Just my opinion, but something extraordinary has been brought up at the meeting yesterday, to bring this about, and I don’t think for a second it’s anything to do with hearts taking legal action.
I think it’s more likely that Hearts have laid all their cards on the table and admitted that not being part of the top league will lead to admin 2 or perhaps worse in the face of an imminent recession.
Following the no reconstruction meeting last week, it just seems a bizarre turn around.

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As funny as that would be, they aren’t going bust any time soon.

***The Spaceman*** · 16-05-2020 02:44 PM

They still will not get the support they need. Temporary reconstruction would be an absolute travesty. Permanent or nothing. Do not bend the rules to save that corrupt, cheating and downright s***e football club.

***Aldo*** · 16-05-2020 02:45 PM

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Just my opinion, but something extraordinary has been brought up at the meeting yesterday, to bring this about, and I don’t think for a second it’s anything to do with hearts taking legal action.
I think it’s more likely that Hearts have laid all their cards on the table and admitted that not being part of the top league will lead to admin 2 or perhaps worse in the face of an imminent recession.
Following the no reconstruction meeting last week, it just seems a bizarre turn around.

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Tbh if this is the case they should just be left to rot. It’s not the leagues responsibility to bail them out of their overspending etc.

Other teams manage their finances and if this is even considered it opens the floodgates in the future!

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***Aldo*** · 16-05-2020 02:46 PM

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They still will not get the support they need. Temporary reconstruction would be an absolute travesty. Permanent or nothing. Do not bend the rules to save that corrupt, cheating and downright s***e football club.

Exactly however seems like they are doing everything in their power to help the Poppy Thieves.

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**brog** · 16-05-2020 02:51 PM

Temporary reconstruction is the worst possible scenario out of all the different proposals that have been made. If Hibs supported such a move I believe they would lose much of the goodwill they have generated during the shutdown. Its inequitable & probably unworkable. How long is temporary? I suggest we let Hibs know our opposition to this proposal.

**brog** · 16-05-2020 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by GonzoReturns

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You would have to assume dialogue has already taken place with Sky who might have indicated that under the present circumstances (games behind closed doors) they would rather have the Edinburgh derby as one of those games. I don’t believe reconstruction would be taking place if Sky haven’t already had some input.

I'm afraid the Edinburgh derby doesn't really generate high viewing figures. The English audience is ignorant of non OF Scottish football.

***Irish_Steve*** · 16-05-2020 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by brog

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I'm afraid the Edinburgh derby doesn't really generate high viewing figures. The English audience is ignorant of non OF Scottish football.

I`m sure I read somewhere that the derby can pull between about 50-90,000 dependent on when it is ie 12:30 or evening game. To put that into context, the same article said the Man U v Liverpool pulled in just over a million. I would have thought it was more - am now trying to find the source but keep getting distracted lol

**ScottB** · 16-05-2020 03:44 PM

Temporary has to be a non starter. Do these idiots not look beyond the length of their own noses?

Ok, league of 14 next season, because relegating clubs without finishing the season is ‘wrong’ - so what happens when we get another lockdown during the second spike of the pandemic? Can’t relegate clubs after all, because they’d have the precedent to sue the league over it, so the league gets bigger again? We’re far enough away from the likely widespread availability of a vaccine to imagine the next 2 seasons could be impacted by lockdowns, how big do the leagues end up in this quest for fairness?

It’s an absolute non starter for this reason first and foremost.

**Glory Lurker** · 16-05-2020 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by ScottB

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Temporary has to be a non starter. Do these idiots not look beyond the length of their own noses?

Ok, league of 14 next season, because relegating clubs without finishing the season is ‘wrong’ - so what happens when we get another lockdown during the second spike of the pandemic? Can’t relegate clubs after all, because they’d have the precedent to sue the league over it, so the league gets bigger again? We’re far enough away from the likely widespread availability of a vaccine to imagine the next 2 seasons could be impacted by lockdowns, how big do the leagues end up in this quest for fairness?

It’s an absolute non starter for this reason first and foremost.

Spot on.

***Smartie*** · 16-05-2020 04:27 PM

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I`m sure I read somewhere that the derby can pull between about 50-90,000 dependent on when it is ie 12:30 or evening game. To put that into context, the same article said the Man U v Liverpool pulled in just over a million. I would have thought it was more - am now trying to find the source but keep getting distracted lol

On one level that doesn’t look that great, but that’s about a tenth of one of the biggest draws in world football - relatively speaking, surely that’s not all that bad?

***greenlad*** · 16-05-2020 04:42 PM

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On one level that doesn’t look that great, but that’s about a tenth of one of the biggest draws in world football - relatively speaking, surely that’s not all that bad?

It's a very very good return for BT/Sky in relation to the modest outlay to acquire the rights.

***GonzoReturns*** · 16-05-2020 05:50 PM

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I'm afraid the Edinburgh derby doesn't really generate high viewing figures. The English audience is ignorant of non OF Scottish football.

True I just can’t see there being any new discussions/proposals on reconstruction without there being some kind of dialogue with Sky. Clubs have already openly said the Sky deal is what’s driving their actions so far.

**GreenCastle** · 16-05-2020 06:01 PM

It won’t be happening - waste of Budge and everyone’s time.

Another tick box exercise but won’t happen.

***SouthMoroccoStu*** · 16-05-2020 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by GreenCastle

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It won’t be happening - waste of Budge and everyone’s time.

Another tick box exercise but won’t happen.

Absolutely

Ann Budge/Hearts have pissed off everyone (minus the Huns, Stranraer, ICT and Partick) with their attitude and arrogance.
The proposal would have to make phenomenal business and financial sense for anyone to listen
That ain’t gonna happen

**HibbySpurs** · 16-05-2020 06:38 PM

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It won’t be happening - waste of Budge and everyone’s time.

Another tick box exercise but won’t happen.

Sure about that? I’m not.

My life as a Hibs supporter has taught me one thing, whenever we think they’re on the canvas they always find a way to wriggle out. It’s sickening and I have this horrible feeling they’ll do it again.

When there is no level you won’t stoop to there’s always a chance you’ll find a way out.......

***greenginger*** · 16-05-2020 06:56 PM

Has it been said when the Budge super plan is to be presented to the clubs ?

***Bostonhibby*** · 16-05-2020 06:59 PM

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Has it been said when the Budge super plan is to be presented to the clubs ?

Just before the next one?

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***Dalianwanda*** · 16-05-2020 07:22 PM

After looking at their comments on kickback i’d tell the delusional, arrogant, snidey ****s to ram it. Hopefully the hope as well as relegation sees them gone.

***green day*** · 16-05-2020 08:22 PM

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Has it been said when the Budge super plan is to be presented to the clubs ?

It cannae be that tricky.

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Paper presented next week................unless Budge is in charge, which means she will spin it out.

***Kato*** · 16-05-2020 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by green day

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spin it out.

Spin (like y'know, make it last) it (we're talking reconstruction here, in an unselfish way like y'know for the good of Scottish football so that no club, like, other clubs including us, don't loose out, in fair way), out (errm, aye.)

Like that, you mean.