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    Daily Scottish update;

    188 new cases since yesterday
    Decrease of 54 in hospital
    Increase of 1 in intensive care
    3253 have left hospital since 5th March
    34 deaths registered since yesterday
    Another big decrease in hospital numbers. I don't suppose one more in ICU is a reason to despair, since the overall trend is still downwards.


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    I could have sworn I read Germany’s R rate was up to about 1.15 just now?
    0.8 figure was from the bbc live news feed this morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Daily Scottish update;

    188 new cases since yesterday
    Decrease of 54 in hospital
    Increase of 1 in intensive care
    3253 have left hospital since 5th March
    34 deaths registered since yesterday
    The case numbers are really falling now despite much higher testing.

    For example there were 354 positive cases out of 1,660 tests on 25th April. Yesterday there were just 188 positive cases out of 2180 tests. So 166 fewer cases despite 520 more tests.

    This should show big reductions in hospitalisations, ICU and deaths in next 2-3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideBurns View Post
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    No new cases in New Zealand for 3rd day in a row, as they enter phase 2 of lifting lockdown. Barbers, cafes etc open, social gatherings still limited to 10 people.

    Pubs & restaurants also open, but until 21 May alcohol can only be served with a meal.
    Nice of NZ to make an exception for the anniversary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Daily Scottish update;

    188 new cases since yesterday
    Decrease of 54 in hospital
    Increase of 1 in intensive care
    3253 have left hospital since 5th March
    34 deaths registered since yesterday
    I’d like if the Scot Govt gave details of where the new cases are coming from. I suspect that the vast majority are within the care home or hospital environment.

    As we move through the next week I fully expect to see a further reduction.

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    Nice of NZ to make an exception for the anniversary.
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    I’d like if the Scot Govt gave details of where the new cases are coming from. I suspect that the vast majority are within the care home or hospital environment.

    As we move through the next week I fully expect to see a further reduction.
    They're pretty much guaranteed to be. There can't be much transmission going on in the community now.

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    I’d like if the Scot Govt gave details of where the new cases are coming from. I suspect that the vast majority are within the care home or hospital environment.

    As we move through the next week I fully expect to see a further reduction.
    I’ve seen that data published before so it is out there.

    I recall around a week to 10 days ago seeing something which confirmed that 50% was community based and the remaining hospital or caste home transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    I’d like if the Scot Govt gave details of where the new cases are coming from. I suspect that the vast majority are within the care home or hospital environment.

    As we move through the next week I fully expect to see a further reduction.
    Like Westminster , Holyrood doesn’t want to keep drawing attention to the high proportion of deaths in Care homes. Sturgeon looks increasingly uncomfortable every time they are mentioned and with good reason. Both Governments have failed a generation when they needed our support the most. It’s heartbreaking and when this is over things will have to change.
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    Bit of a rude response to the journalist there from Sturgeon when he asked if he could be heard. I wonder if there's previous between them?

    First time I've heard her make such a response during these press briefings.

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    Bit of a rude response to the journalist there from Sturgeon when he asked if he could be heard. I wonder if there's previous between them?

    First time I've heard her make such a response during these press briefings.
    She looked stressed before it even began today. Time to delegate, there must be others she can trust to take the briefings on a more regular basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    She looked stressed before it even began today. Time to delegate, there must be others she can trust to take the briefings on a more regular basis.
    Didn't get that sense at all. Think that's been a masterclass in briefing compared with what goes on dan sarf. She was only momentarily short with the journo - wonder if people will call her nippy because of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Didn't get that sense at all. Think that's been a masterclass in briefing compared with what goes on dan sarf. She was only momentarily short with the journo - wonder if people will call her nippy because of it?
    I said to my wife before it kicked off that Sturgeon looked out of sorts. Just my opinion of course. In general her communication has been streets ahead of whats coming out of Westminster. That’s not really hard though is it, only Trump tops Bojo and Co for lessons in how not to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Didn't get that sense at all. Think that's been a masterclass in briefing compared with what goes on dan sarf. She was only momentarily short with the journo - wonder if people will call her nippy because of it?
    He was from the sun so it’s all good.

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    Did she say anything of note regarding low testing levels, information around the R number, or timings for any sort of exit plan being presented?
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    Did she say anything of note regarding low testing levels, information around the R number, or timings for any sort of exit plan being presented?
    There was a bit of a build up to a piece on how the R number is calculated on the Scottish lunchtime news on the BBC. I expected some sort of specifics, in the end it was the same stuff we have already heard before repeated by a different person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Did she say anything of note regarding low testing levels, information around the R number, or timings for any sort of exit plan being presented?
    She didn’t say much about testing, but is it possible that there just isn’t a big enough take up in the testing from the public? I’ve seen a few cases of people saying they booked a test and they had it done with a couple hours.

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    There was a bit of a build up to a piece on how the R number is calculated on the Scottish lunchtime news on the BBC. I expected some sort of specifics, in the end it was the same stuff we have already heard before repeated by a different person.
    What I took more from today's briefing than in previous days was that I thought she stressed the importance of getting the amount of cases down alongside the R number. Basically saying that you can tolerate a higher R number if you have very few cases. I know it's just commonsense, but I can't recall her giving so much emphasis to it before.

    I suppose it's why countries with low levels of existing cases who are now coming out of lockdown won't stress so much about the R number fluctuating so it occasionally hits 1 or between 1 and 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    She didn’t say much about testing, but is it possible that there just isn’t a big enough take up in the testing from the public? I’ve seen a few cases of people saying they booked a test and they had it done with a couple hours.
    However, surely you would only be going to get tested if you have symptoms of the virus. Could it be that really not many people have it in any case at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    There was a bit of a build up to a piece on how the R number is calculated on the Scottish lunchtime news on the BBC. I expected some sort of specifics, in the end it was the same stuff we have already heard before repeated by a different person.
    Fair enough - hopefully they release something eventually.

    I appreciate it's probably complicated and has its flaws but it would be nice to know the range of R number that we think applies and how quickly it changes, what makes it different to the rest of the UK, and if it's the right thing to be using to decide next steps.

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    She didn’t say much about testing, but is it possible that there just isn’t a big enough take up in the testing from the public? I’ve seen a few cases of people saying they booked a test and they had it done with a couple hours.
    Possibly. But you would think this would then get reported.

    The UK government are constantly lagging behind their testing targets (targets they seemed keen to increase) and we're doing even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Fair enough - hopefully they release something eventually.

    I appreciate it's probably complicated and has its flaws but it would be nice to know the range of R number that we think applies and how quickly it changes, what makes it different to the rest of the UK, and if it's the right thing to be using to decide next steps.



    Possibly. But you would think this would then get reported.

    The UK government are constantly lagging behind their testing targets (targets they seemed keen to increase) and we're doing even worse.

    I think the Scottish testing numbers are excluding those that are taking place in the UK testing banner...I’m not sure though as both governments fudged their target numbers at end of April and have been rather reluctant to clarify anything about them since.

    Scottish new cases still seem to be dominated by care home numbers. Using the BBC graph that suggests almost 140 new care home cases today...so a huge portion of the 188 new cases reported.

    The new cases have been dominated by care homes for a while but today it seems they are almost exclusive to them. While tragic for those in care homes it does (at least using the very course data provided) suggest that community transmission is as good as zero.

    Which leads me to wonder just where that R number is coming from and if it’s actually any use in evidencing the wider threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    I’d like if the Scot Govt gave details of where the new cases are coming from. I suspect that the vast majority are within the care home or hospital environment.

    As we move through the next week I fully expect to see a further reduction.
    Covid stats are here

    https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...-for-scotland/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ HIBBY View Post
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    However, surely you would only be going to get tested if you have symptoms of the virus. Could it be that really not many people have it in any case at the moment
    That’s what I thought. Yesterday there were around 84,000 negative tests in the U.K. (maybe just England). Either way what “symptoms” are these 84,000 presenting? That’s almost 600,000 a week or 2.5m a month 😳

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn View Post
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    That’s what I thought. Yesterday there were around 84,000 negative tests in the U.K. (maybe just England). Either way what “symptoms” are these 84,000 presenting? That’s almost 600,000 a week or 2.5m a month 😳
    Perhaps just the common cold, that virus hasn’t disappeared or been replaced by Covid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn View Post
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    That’s what I thought. Yesterday there were around 84,000 negative tests in the U.K. (maybe just England). Either way what “symptoms” are these 84,000 presenting? That’s almost 600,000 a week or 2.5m a month 😳
    Remember the test isn't reliable, so maybe 25,000 of the 84,000 will have been presenting with Covid symptoms and had Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Remember the test isn't reliable, so maybe 25,000 of the 84,000 will have been presenting with Covid symptoms and had Covid.
    Or as I said perhaps just symptoms of the common cold. It does still exist

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    He was from the sun so it’s all good.
    I'm unlikely ever to vote SNP and I'd tear what little hair I have in my head out if I had to listen to Salmond or, God forbid, Ian Blackford, but Nicola has really impressed even me. She's level headed, communicates well and is doing the best she can given the situation. And I'd not trade places with her for all the money in the world. On a human level, there's a person who deserves a holiday after this. Decisions she's making, info she's being told (that we aren't) and worst-case-scenarios she's looking at day after day for weeks now must be taking their toll. I'm all for transparency etc, and I didn't see the interview, but at a time like this she deserves a bit of delicate handling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Did she say anything of note regarding low testing levels, information around the R number, or timings for any sort of exit plan being presented?
    She mentioned that she 'hasn't ruled out' a regionalised easing of the lockdown in Scotland.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52662970

    If it's getting tricky to follow the varying lockdown measures across the four home nations then this could add a whole new layer of complexity.

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    Today’s numbers represent another small drop in UK deaths, which is good.

    I can’t help but still be afraid of what we’re going to see in 2 weeks time though. Seeing the images from the tube and busses in London is horrendous, and just asking for another explosion.
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