The generic Hearts thread

[Future17]

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Money

The Sky sports deal is only to show SPL games plus play offs
Why do you think Budge is saying 3/4 million losses
You are putting two more teams to dilute the Pot Cormack at Aberdeen said this would take 600k from Aberdeeen share

Championship is BBC and Premier sports have a deal also

That's what I was wondering. It all seems to come back to finance.

[euro Hibby]

Beats me why anybody sane would agree to fund hearts court case ! They have been so badly run as a club for a while now so they don't merit any sympathy from any source.
Football is full of conmen. As said before by many , take your pusnishment, man -up. You are bottom for a reason !

[Kato]

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Beats me why anybody sane would agree to fund hearts court case ! They have been so badly run as a club for a while now so they don't merit any sympathy from any source.
Football is full of conmen. As said before by many , take your pusnishment, man -up. You are bottom for a reason !

Agreed but if these absolute weapons want to chip in more we should sit back and let them. They haven't a leg to stand on.

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[Onion]

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The position Hearts have found themselves in is bottom of the league at the end of the season. They don't deserve extra money and they would only waste it anyway. They certainly wouldn't use it to pay their employees what they owe them.

It's not the money, it's the principle.

If there was more money in the Scottish game this would not even be debated - they would definitely be given some comp to soften the blow. But every penny is a prisoner for clubs at the moment as we've no idea what the future looks like.

[007]

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AB speaks!

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Fundamentally, the main reason clubs are not prepared to consider a restructure is because of the Sky contract. It is well known that Sky would have to agree to a restructure. Without any discussion with Sky, there is a totally incomprehensible assumption that we would be unable to navigate successfully through any such negotiation. What does that say about the strength or otherwise of our “partnership”? Perhaps more tellingly, what does it say about the confidence our clubs have in the ability of the SPFL to negotiate? The message is clear. This could be difficult so let’s not bother trying. It’s too risky!
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Budge the expert on negotiating who showed her hand the minute reconstruction talks were mentioned.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Beats me why anybody sane would agree to fund hearts court case ! They have been so badly run as a club for a while now so they don't merit any sympathy from any source.
Football is full of conmen. As said before by many , take your pusnishment, man -up. You are bottom for a reason !

Has anybody sane?

[jacomo]

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Ian Murray in his interview said it was right to end the season now but the only fair way was for league reconstruction.

In other words, we don’t want to finish the season as we will get relegated anyway.

I think the jambos quite like the injustice. They know they are odds ok for relegation anyway, this way they can invoke the famous macrame battalion spirit, man the barricades and all that pish. They will thrive of the injustice for years

Ok three simple questions on reconstruction, assuming the goal is a 14 team top league:

1. Is there a split and if so how is the league divided?
2. How many relegation places?
3. Is it permanent or temporary?

This is just the start, but neither Budge nor anyone else can answer these questions because her task force failed to agree on a proposal.

I am sick and tired of Jambos moaning and greeting and demanding reconstruction, with no proposal on the table.

[Greenworld]

Anyone know what hearts percentage of wages to turnover is .
Im thinking with the benefactors money being withdrawn it will very high going forward

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[jacomo]

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Budge the expert negotiator who showed her hand the minute reconstruction talks were mentioned.

Quite wisely, the SPFL will keep Budge as far away from the Sky contract as possible. The thought of her negotiating with broadcasters on behalf of the clubs is actually terrifying.

[Joe6-2]

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Quite wisely, the SPFL will keep Budge as far away from the Sky contract as possible. The thought of her negotiating with broadcasters on behalf of the clubs is actually terrifying.

Thankfully be nothing to do with her from the championship!

[Ozyhibby]

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Sounds like he’s staying and on big wages.


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[007]

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Sounds like he’s staying and on big wages.


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Made him an offer he couldn't refuse , which translates as paying him a lot more than he's worth and heavily weighted towards basic and small %age as bonus. 😂 He's going nowhere.

[Peevemor]

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Sounds like he’s staying and on big wages.


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Excellent! Lucky them!

[04Sauzee]

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Made him an offer he couldn't refuse , which translates as paying him a lot more than he's worth and heavily weighted towards basic and small %age as bonus. 😂 He's going nowhere.

Hearts fans wanting him article 12'd on Kickback 🤣

[007]

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Hearts fans wanting him article 12'd on Kickback 🤣

Surely they're not in favour of people being expelled?

[hibbyfraelibby]

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The closest thing to nobody suffering is 12-12-10-10 but that option wasn’t pursued because of Hearts self-interest as they were the only team to lose out in that scenario.

Agreed. That solution minimised the impact across the whole game. Highland and Lowland leagues hapoy, promoted teams happy, Partick and Stranraer not relegated. Only one team out of 42 suffering the consequences. All Budge needed was a fag packet...

[calumhibee1]

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Made him an offer he couldn't refuse , which translates as paying him a lot more than he's worth and heavily weighted towards basic and small %age as bonus. 😂 He's going nowhere.

An offer he couldn’t refuse while he was playing for one of the bigger English Championship sides. Think it’s safe to say he’ll be on Naismith and Boyce style wages as well. Hope he stays.

[Biggie]

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Sounds like he’s staying and on big wages.


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Yep, certainly looks that way......and clearly on big wages, hardly likely to walk away from that.
Pleasing

[The 90+2]

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Why should no one suffer?

Teams get relegated every year.

Are relegated teams going to suffer even more due to Covid?

Relatively, no. Everyone is going to suffer on that front.

If they are due any sort of “compensation” it should be for the percentage of the games that didn’t get played in the top division and that’s about it. Chuck them in the bin.

[The 90+2]

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Sounds like he’s staying and on big wages.


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What a coup for Levein. Well played HMFC.

[04Sauzee]

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Surely they're not in favour of people being expelled?

OTT OTT

Posted 1 hour ago
2 hours ago, Last Laff said:
Hopefully this ****ing chancer:



https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/loic-damour-hearts-confession-midfielder-22013380



He signed because “hearts offered me a contract I couldn’t refuse”



Four years. Cheers Craig.



Well he can **** off. If he'd turned up AT ALL this season we'd not be going down.



Article 12 the scroat and make it clear he's not wanted.

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[NadeAteMyLunch!]

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I agree with most of that - it's certainly not practical to finish the season. I don't think the practicalities of temporary reconstruction are relatively minor (purely on sporting terms). The largest downside would be likely be reduced promotion opportunities in the short term, but at least teams would know what they're competing for at the start of the season and the outcome would dependon their performance across the full season, as it should.




As much as we all hoped it was coming, it was far from "undoubted". As discussed previously, loads of teams have gotten themselves out of worse relegation trouble than Hearts were in with 8 games to play.

Agreed. Leicester the year before winning the league being an example that springs to mind. However, far far more clubs go down in this situation so playing devils advocate, you could argue they are being given an unfair sporting advantage by being allowed to scrap this season. Bit like them being 2-0 down with 5 mins left and the floodlights go out. They’d maybe end up playing the game again, wouldn’t be fair though.

[SHODAN]

We should sign Damour purely so we can have a chant for him to the tune of Oh L'amour. It would be amazing.

[matty_f]

I presume Hearts won't use article 12, relegation release clauses or relegation wage reductions in any of their staff or players, so Budge can show she's serious about sticking to her principle that nobody should be punished by Covid...

[tomf]

Presumably Hearts would be faced with losing money if the season had run its course and they had still been bottom of the league. Their plea for some kind of compensation has to be based on the fact that they have missed the opportunity to avoid relegation and therefore any difference in income. That is to say, it is based on a “what if”. On the same basis Hibs could have finished much higher up the league. Every team in every league can say the same thing. If one were to be compensated then why not all the rest? The next question is where does the money come from and I’m afraid I, personally, would object in the strongest terms if Hibs, a well managed team, were to help toward funding a team who have clearly used financial doping as a means to attempt to win games and trophies. It would appear that Hearts have been mismanaged for years but there is little or no sign of contrition or remorse. I don’t suppose I am the only Hibs fan who despairs at the five one gesture when one considers the actual facts and debatable decisions around that score-line. However, it has never stopped them crowing. So, despite my more pragmatic tendencies, I would say hell mend them. I might have relented and changed that opinion and be arguing the case for compensation but the odious creature Deans couldn’t even make a case for his team without a very snide and cheap comment aimed directly at Hibs. Well then I would say to you Mr Deans, I heard you loud and clear, which is why you would get nothing from me and absolutely no support for a reconstruction or any legal action or a penny in your collection tin aimed at keeping your appalling team from disappearing.

[brog]

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Sounds like he’s staying and on big wages.


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The new Malaury Martin!! A ball winning midfield player who was dispossessed by tiger tackling Scotty for our 2nd Boxing Day goal. Stay as long as you like son!

[Future17]

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Agreed. Leicester the year before winning the league being an example that springs to mind. However, far far more clubs go down in this situation so playing devils advocate, you could argue they are being given an unfair sporting advantage by being allowed to scrap this season. Bit like them being 2-0 down with 5 mins left and the floodlights go out. They’d maybe end up playing the game again, wouldn’t be fair though.

Yeah, I said similar before, except with 8 games of a 38-match season remaining, it's more like the floodlights going out after 79 mins. A lot can happen in football in 21 mins.

[Peevemor]

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Yeah, I said similar before, except with 8 games of a 38-match season remaining, it's more like the floodlights going out after 79 mins. A lot can happen in football in 21 mins.

11?

[James Stephen]

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Yeah, I said similar before, except with 8 games of a 38-match season remaining, it's more like the floodlights going out after 79 mins. A lot can happen in football in 21 mins.

But a bit less in 11 minutes...

[rossevenil]

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Yeah, I said similar before, except with 8 games of a 38-match season remaining, it's more like the floodlights going out after 79 mins. A lot can happen in football in 21 mins.

With Maths like that you sure you ain`t a Jambo?