The generic Hearts thread

[Man Down Under]

If she really cared about every club, she would focus on getting football started again, so everyone can make money from playing games.

She's acting as if anything but the Premiership is a horrible fate, despite the fact around 30 other teams are already in that situation, what's the plan for them in your proposal?

I laughed when she said she's good at multi tasking, so good infact she's at the bottom of the league despite being a 'top 3' club.

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[ScottB]

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If she really cared about every club, she would focus on getting football started again, so everyone can make money from playing games.

She's acting as if anything but the Premiership is a horrible fate, despite the fact around 30 other teams are already in that situation, what's the plan for them in your proposal?

I laughed when she said she's good at multi tasking, so good infact she's at the bottom of the league despite being a 'top 3' club.

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I’m not sure anyone in charge of that new stand project could boast about being able to handle one task, never mind several at a time...

[Man Down Under]

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I’m not sure anyone in charge of that new stand project could boast about being able to handle one task, never mind several at a time...

I would say she needs to calm down and take a seat, but I'm not sure she ordered any.

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[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Does making a James Blunt of several things at the same time count as multi-tasking?

[Hibeesmad]

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You aren't missing anything, she is expecting all other clubs to just let Hearts do as they please.

She's trying to make it sound like they've been hard done by. Maybe if they were a point or two behind Hamilton and had yet to play them, you could maybe just start to understand how they felt hard done by, or if they were 11th but Hamilton had played a game fewer and averaging out the points won by them and Accies put Hearts bottom.

However none of that is the case, they were beaten by St Mirren before the suspension and instead of being 1 point behind, they sit 4 points behind Hamilton (and if not for a ridiculous refereeing decision that went against Hamilton which was later reversed on appeal, they would probably be 7 points adrift).

They have been tom kite for a season and a half - that is why they are where they are, and that is why they are getting relegated. When you finish bottom of the league, you get relegated.

Clubs will not bend over and restructure the league for a season or two just to ensure that one club doesn't go down before we all go back to how things were before after a couple of seasons and they've cleared most of the deadweight, and have not suffered the consequences of being utterly ***** for the duration of the season.

I am totally convinced that Hearts would have been relegated regardless of a global pandemic. The chances of us finding out if that would have been the case are now very very slim. However, deep down she must be glad that she now has an excuse for their relegation, taking away the blame on her and the mess she has made of the club this season.

Hearts are being relegated because of 4 wins from 30 games. Levein restored natural order, the diamond Stendel saved them and Naismith still has 3 years on his contract- from the English Premier League to Scottish Championship, brilliant.

[Hibeesmad]

The go fund me page has kicked off!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hear...f+share-flow-1

[poolman]

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The go fund me page has kicked off!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hear...f+share-flow-1

😁 They've had more fundraisers than the red cross

[Hibeesmad]

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😁 They've had more fundraisers than the red cross

"Our club are being unfairly demoted due to a global pandemic."

Nothing to do with the fact that they are sitting 4 points a drift with 4 wins from 30 games because they are absolute *****. With the season having to be drawn to a close due to the global pandemic so that clubs can receive money to keep their team afloat.

However, it is not in the self interest of teams to do this as they should let their club financially crumble and rot into liquidation because the team with the 4th biggest budget in the league couldn't scrape more than 4 wins. Delusional clowns.

[Hibeesmad]

If Hibs were in this position, my sole frustration would be on the fact we only managed 4 wins from 30 games leaving us bottom of the table, 4 points behind Hamilton. Accepting that the global pandemic has put people into a position where tough decisions have to be made but ultimately the right decisions to keep football clubs and people alive.

I haven't come across one Hearts fan who is frustrated that their club have allowed them to be in this position?

[Kato]

Go down with some dignity ya weirdos.

[truehibernian]

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The go fund me page has kicked off!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hear...f+share-flow-1

Huge uptake in donations so far oh Keith, a fool and their money are often parted

Can't see any four figure donation from 'Fuming in Edinburgh, Mr L Deans '

[Col2]

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If Hibs were in this position, my sole frustration would be on the fact we only managed 4 wins from 30 games leaving us bottom of the table, 4 points behind Hamilton. Accepting that the global pandemic has put people into a position where tough decisions have to be made but ultimately the right decisions to keep football clubs and people alive.

I haven't come across one Hearts fan who is frustrated that their club have allowed them to be in this position?

This is where the entitlement, big team, establishment thing comes in. It’s the default for all Jambos and kicks in when they are under attack. They loved Ann, then she screwed it all up, they loved Craig Levein, they he screwed it all up, they really really loved “your Daniel” and he screwed it up.

When they have nobody to cling on to for hope the default is to act like a spoilt brat and attack everyone around them. The same kind of happened when we won the Scottish cup, they couldn’t handle it as it went again all the arrogance and entitlement they deep down felt. They flew a plane over Tynecastle abusing Robbie Neilson who had them in 2nd place by the time he left.

[Kojock]

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The go fund me page has kicked off!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hear...f+share-flow-1

They’re trying to raise £100,000 that’s roughly a third of their legal costs and that’s assuming they win. If not there is a possibility the court could make them pay all court costs which could be in the region of £5-600,000. Are they willing or can they afford to take that risk. Case closed m’lud.

[Waxy]

The uproar if there was no relegation would have been much worse.
These clubs would have been taking a huge advantage over clubs relegated before.
Finish bottom= go down.
Dont use a pandemic as an excuse to stay up. Why should you stay up.
Its same as saying Dundee utd should stay down.

[Waxy]

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They’re trying to raise £100,000 that’s roughly a third of their legal costs and that’s assuming they win. If not there is a possibility the court could make them pay all court costs which could be in the region of £5-600,000. Are they willing or can they afford to take that risk. Case closed m’lud.

Let them go to court. They cant win, they finished bottom. That would maybe open their eyes.

[bingo70]

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They’re trying to raise £100,000 that’s roughly a third of their legal costs and that’s assuming they win. If not there is a possibility the court could make them pay all court costs which could be in the region of £5-600,000. Are they willing or can they afford to take that risk. Case closed m’lud.

That’s before you take into account the time it would take to bring this to a conclusion. During that time they wouldn’t be able to plan properly for a likely scenario of them being relegated.

I think Deans was talking about football being stopped completely until this was resolved, I’m pretty sure Hearts couldn’t afford that either.

Imo a legal case is a non starter for a number of reasons, they’re just posturing just now to try and get as good a compensation deal as possible.

[Onion]

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Let them go to court. They cant win, they finished bottom. That would maybe open their eyes.

They've lost their minds. Having participated as a member of an open, democratic process they've had their opportunity to influence the outcome. Now that they don't like the result they're going to sue the governing body ?

Anne Budge is trying to change their status from relegated to expelled. If they try to sue the SPFL, they'll get their wish Hearts are close to usurping Sevco as the most stupid club the country.

[Oscar T Grouch]

I always find Budge’s statements to be like a first draft of what she wants to say. It rambles on, repeats itself, sometimes contradicts and is always over long with bad grammar. Shirley someone at hearts should whisper to her ‘let’s have a wee reread of that before we put it out there’, but given the statements never improve, you need to assume she’s surrounded by yes men or idiots, neither of which are good for hearts. Shame 😆🤣💔

[truehibernian]

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I always find Budge’s statements to be like a first draft of what she wants to say. It rambles on, repeats itself, sometimes contradicts and is always over long with bad grammar. Shirley someone at hearts should whisper to her ‘let’s have a wee reread of that before we put it out there’, but given the statements never improve, you need to assume she’s surrounded by yes men or idiots, neither of which are good for hearts. Shame 😆🤣💔

And that's being kind............her latest one is full of contradiction and it's just bluster and rhetoric. It's an appalling statement to be honest (factually). As all of them are. They are neck and neck with The Rangers in the Shavers Weekly Statement Premier League

[CapitalGreen]

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The go fund me page has kicked off!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/only-hear...f+share-flow-1

Has that been set up by the same Keith Drysdsle who was in the jail for killing one of his friends during an argument about bagpiping?

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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Has that been set up by the same Keith Drysdsle who was in the jail for killing one of his friends during an argument about bagpiping?

Bloody hell

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4899128.stm

[brog]

There's only one simple 7 word question that needs to be asked of Budge, namely, 'Why have you never previously proposed reconstruction?'

[Joe6-2]

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I am actually a bit bewildered by Budge's stance on all of this. Does she actually want/expect teams to ignore their self interests just to save Hearts?

Spot on!

[truehibernian]

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There's only one simple 7 word question that needs to be asked of Budge, namely, 'Why have you never previously proposed reconstruction?'

And where is this evidence of 4 games v opposition teams 'driving fans away' ours, theirs, and many other clubs attendances have never been higher and we are the best supported top flight league per capita in Europe she is an absolute slaver at the moment

[CapitalGreen]

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There's only one simple 7 word question that needs to be asked of Budge, namely, 'Why have you never previously proposed reconstruction?'

She didn’t just not propose it, she was forthright in her opposition to increasing the number of clubs in Scotland.

[Joe6-2]

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I think the way the game has been since Rangers were caught cheating and then given a free pass all discipline has broken down all together. We must be the only country in Europe where clubs regularly release statements attacking the governing body and other clubs with zero comeback on them at all. It would never happen in England but because there are so many skeletons from the cover up from 2012 then the governing body is powerless now to stop this anarchy now.
The decision taken is the right one but the lack of trust from 2012 and afterwards means that it is not respected. The desire to ‘move on’ and get back to making money comes at a price and we are paying it now.


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Wasn’t this said at the time? That it would come back and bite them on the erse!

[MrSmith]

I hope to see some challenges especially from Hibs and other teams, regarding that awful and aggressive statement attacking Scottish clubs.

Budge should be ashamed of herself for putting that out in the public domain. Cringeworthy, despicable, inept, embarrassing, shameful, degrading, exasperating, nonsensical and completely demeaning drivel.

shame on you Ann Budge!

[Ozyhibby]

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Wasn’t this said at the time? That it would come back and bite them on the erse!

Many, many times but we were ignored in favour of the short term benefits of just moving on.
I would still reject the Sevco proposal on Tuesday as the terms of reference are too narrow but it is time for a more comprehensive inquiry into the governance of the game and a move to full transparency.

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[Rumble de Thump]

They keep talking about losing £3 million by being relegated. They won't lose £3 million. They just won't earn it.

[Jakhog1]

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Bloody hell

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4899128.stm

That's crazy if it is the same person who is trying to fundraise money to mount some kind of legal challenge, along with Dean's who has been investigated for money laundering, what a horrible, grubby little club, they really do make a mess of everything