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Thread: The generic Hearts thread
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09-05-2020 08:57 PM #10291
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09-05-2020 09:02 PM #10292
The SPFL is a democracy.
All the clubs have to adhere to the votes.
They knew what they were voting for in the vote to end the season.
Hearts didnt get away with being the worst team in the league.
The vote was to end the season on average points. With promotion and relegation for top and bottom clubs.
The courts wouldn’t entertain involvement.
There’s no crime.
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09-05-2020 09:05 PM #10293This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The paperclips had been ordered and Mrs doctor Budge just had to approve the requisition for flipcharts and they'd have made a start just as soon as she told them what to do.
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09-05-2020 09:05 PM #10294This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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09-05-2020 09:07 PM #10296This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Going public with an opinion that would always be unpopular with the biggest and most powerful club in the country was a terrible start and it seemed to go downhill from there. The fact she came out and said she was misquoted despite it being a live interview damaged her credibility even further.
From the moment the task force was created she should have been on a charm offensive, if she couldn’t keep rangers and Celtic happy she should have stayed off the radio for that interview.
That’s what’s played out in public, if she got that so spectacularly wrong, and going by that unbelievably arrogant statement tonight, I expect her negotiation skills weren’t much better behind closed doors either.
She was able to bully the players as she had leverage, she wasn’t able to exert any influence in this meeting and she was completely out of her depth. What she’s described in that statement isn’t new news, if she went into the task force with her eyes shut thinking she knows better than everyone then it’s not surprising she’s made such an arse of it.
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09-05-2020 09:07 PM #10297
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Where to begin with that crock of horse ****. Sudden, out of the blue and in the middle of a crisis, restructuring the leagues is a huge missed opportunity to improve the game. What ? Everyone else is driven by self interest, but not Hearts. Then the less than veiled threat at the end to take the matter further - perhaps through legal recourse - despite the SPFL following the process in which Hearts were participants. It's pathetic and shameful.
She knew from the outset that getting 11 clubs to agree to ANY form of restructure (especially at this time) was a lost cause. Spouting off at clubs before the task force was even set up and now blaming everyone else for Hearts predicament - with ZERO recognition of their own failings as a club - are the ramblings of desperation.
She's is deep **** and she knows it.
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09-05-2020 09:10 PM #10298This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So, 6 weeks ago she was favouring a ‘slight’ reconstruction (later clarified as temporary) that would have seen top flight expanded by two clubs.
In tonight’s statement she says she wanted to change the current situation where clubs play each other 4 times a season - a much more thorough change.
These two are not compatible. She really is useless.
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09-05-2020 09:10 PM #10299
That statement is beyond belief. Totally delusional and unwilling to admit that Hearts are in the position they are in because of her leadership. They have consistently been the worst club in the Premier League and as such deserve to go down. Still blowing her own trumpet regarding multi-tasking and her morality. Shows how far her grip on reality has slipped. If she had any decency she would resign and hand the reins over to someone who knows what they are doing.
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09-05-2020 09:13 PM #10300This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Only current source of income and this daftie is wants to go picking a fight with them and start making demands to a new contract that’s not seen a ball kicked yet.
Incredible.
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09-05-2020 09:14 PM #10301This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
She should just accept it, shes probably ****ting it as hearts will have a massive rebuilding job next season when it eventually kicks off again.
Be interesting to see who has the relegation clause in their contract
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09-05-2020 09:15 PM #10302
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Hearts won The Championship in 2014/15 leaving both ourselves and The Rangers behind. St Mirren got relegated from The Premiership. Don't remember Hearts raising the issue of reconstruction then.
The Rangers won The Championship the next season with Dundee United coming down. Hearts were 3rd in The Premiership. Still don't remember them clamoring for league reconstruction.
Of course, in 2016/17, we came up, Hearts were 5th in the Premiership and ICT went down. Complete silence from Budge on reconstruction of the leagues.
2017/18 - St Mirren up, Partick Thistle and Ross County down, we came 4th, Hearts were 6th and still no mention of reconstruction.
Last season, Ross County up, Dundee down, Hibs 5th, Hearts 6th. Mention of league reconstruction - **** all!
Suddenly, this season Hearts want league reconstruction. Other clubs not so fussy.
And Budge says that it is the other clubs showing self interest. Aye right.
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09-05-2020 09:17 PM #10304
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09-05-2020 09:17 PM #10305This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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09-05-2020 09:18 PM #10306This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's a dictatorial style that probably works blustering around at Tynecastle as they hurtle towards the bottom but the behaviour just isn't fit for purpose as a member of a bigger group with wider aims and responsibilities.
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09-05-2020 09:23 PM #10307This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
HMFC forever an embarrassment to Scottish football 👍
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09-05-2020 09:26 PM #10308This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I honestly quite like(d) her, but she's now lost the last of her credibility and, it would seem, dignity.
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09-05-2020 09:32 PM #10309
Does Bagpuss ever acknowledge the fact that Hearts form this season has been dreadful?
Her statements are getting longer, more incoherent and undignified. She’s just making a fool of her herself now. Someone close to her needs to have a quiet word in her ear.
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09-05-2020 09:32 PM #10310This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There may come a time when we can try to negotiate the tv companies not getting 4 old firm games a season but does she really think now is the time to be trying to force that on them?
Imo the only chance of achieving a league reconstruction would have been if the bottom 2 teams each year forfeited their right to the benefits of the new tv deal for the period of the contract. They’d have kept their top league profile and the rest of the clubs wouldn’t have had to share their tv revenue even further. Even that was a long shot but it was their only hope imo.
For her to go in arrogantly telling everyone they’re wrong and they just need to renegotiate a new tv deal is bonkers.
The lack of awareness from her in that statement is incredible.
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09-05-2020 09:33 PM #10311hfc rdLeft by mutual consent!
I thought the amount of drivel that you see in the various Sevco statements that get released were extremely terrible, fat Ann has now taken it to a whole new level! Absolute pile of horse manure that she’s released!
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09-05-2020 09:43 PM #10312
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Top post!
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09-05-2020 09:44 PM #10313
I got as far as the bit about clubs playing each other four times “driving fans away.” Complete drivel with no evidence. Self righteous nonsense up until that part. The Duncans are lapping it up and there’s a lot of howling at the moon on social media. The SPFL must finish the season, send them down and start on the far more important job of preparing for how to be ready when it is possible to start football in Scotland in some shape or form
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09-05-2020 09:44 PM #10314
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09-05-2020 09:48 PM #10315This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Bagpuss........😂🤣😂 spot on
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09-05-2020 09:49 PM #10316
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09-05-2020 09:51 PM #10317
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Sportsound made a point of saying something along the lines of how Budge had called all 41 other clubs to say there was no ill will or bitterness over this. The statement suggests otherwise.
"Sanctimonious" - pot, kettle, black
Having a pop at the SPFL for not using all of April & May to discuss it. Duh! Who wanted it done in 3 weeks? "Speed is of the essence" I seem to recall being said.
"If something is wrong, it is wrong and we should all be doing our utmost to correct that wrong" - There are 200 creditors still waiting for a wrong to be corrected.
Is she seriously suggesting we should have got the reconstruction finalised and then approached Sky and renegotiated? Seems like somebody's living in cloud cuckoo land.
"It is well known that Sky would have to agree to a restructure." - I agree with that but somehow Rangers didn't seem to know.
We've supposedly missed a chance to "remove the current play everyone 4 times problem." How does a 14 team league do that? - it doesn't.
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09-05-2020 09:52 PM #10318
For me it just reiterates the fact that to move to the next level Hibs need go leave the madhouse that is Scottish football and move to the English or European league, we will never progress in Scottish football that only exists to further the interests of the Glasgow ugly sisters
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09-05-2020 09:53 PM #10319
It is in times like this it really shows the importance of effective leadership from the top of a football club. More important than players and managers in my opinion as these days they don't tend to last too long but if you have the right owner and chief executive then you are on to a good thing.
As much as Leeann came in for criticism during the dismal end of Heckingbottom, she handled the situation correctly in the end and made a positive appointment to replace Heck.
Anne Budge has had an absolute nightmare for the last few years with her appointments and running of that football club. Enjoy the championship in a crappy, over budget stadium ya rats.
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09-05-2020 09:58 PM #10320
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That statement is crazy.
First, I honestly can’t think of another serious statement written in that kind of language, even just all the exclamation marks.
In tone it either is, or is intended to play to, the sort of populist, reactionary garbage that causes so much mess in our world. It makes little sense, attacks the other clubs, hints at incompetence and underhandedness.
Hearts are now very much at the crossroads Rangers found themselves, when instead of contrition and acceptance, they started the whole ‘we were kicked out’ crap. Hearts too, could have been (rightly) aggrieved at the circumstances, but tried to win some influence on the way out, but here Budge seems keen on starting their own bitter narrative; they’ve been expelled!
A weird, tortured mix of saying she understands other clubs acting in their self interest, but they’re all wrong, because really it’s in their self interest to save Hearts. Hearts meanwhile are acting for the good of the game alone, not self interest.
It’s mind boggling, it really is. And it has the chance to create the same sort of paranoid, poisonous relationship between Hearts and the rest of the Scottish game that Rangers have created for themselves.Last edited by ScottB; 09-05-2020 at 10:00 PM.
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