The generic Hearts thread

[GreenCastle]

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She will walk away with a whimper imho. However after her statement about not leaving any debt..... I wonder if she or Benny will dip into their savings and clear anything.


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If Budge does leave..either now or say end of next season (IF they get promoted / we have any football) who takes over..wasn’t she the saviour ????

Long term the way the club is funded isn’t going to work especially when we have just had a pandemic - folk will need cash for other things.

The donations for FOH will definitely take a hit.

[bingo70]

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The thing is - it’s still not 100% confirmed so leaves Hearts in a situation where they can’t fully act and start planning.

It’s 99% confirmed but must be driving them mad this whole saga getting dragged out in the media for the whole U.K. to laugh at them and Rangers.

What it does show all along is the top 12 clubs in Premiership run Scottish Football and 11-1 voting system definitely has its pros and cons.

Hearts will have to win the championship to come back up as the playoffs will be a massive challenge as we know.

Wonder if we will play them in league cup group stages then in the semi ?!

Probably a debate for a different place but I think this whole affair has shown that the game shouldn’t be run like a bowling club committee.

Clubs will always vote in self interest and not the game as a whole. Let’s get professionals without bias towards any club in to run the organisation professionally.

The fact that if things were to change it would be too late to save Hearts just makes things all the sweeter.

[Aldo]

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If Budge does leave..either now or say end of next season (IF they get promoted / we have any football) who takes over..

Long term the way the club is funded isn’t going to work especially when we have just had a pandemic - folk will need cash for other things.

The donations for FOH will definitely take a hit.

Can you image them being run by fans and with no Benny Factor donations?? Level playing field!

Tbh she’s the one whose allowed this to happen. After all her statements and digs at Hibs I am lapping this up and cannot wait for it to be officially announced to seal their fate.

It’s what big famous teams do you know!


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[007]

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You want Hibs to give Hearts money?


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If it shuts them up and makes them p¡$$ of then yes.🙂 Our share of a few thousand quid would be money well spent.

[Since452]

Would now be a good time for Ron to put a cheeky bid in for Hearts? Consolidate them in to Hibernian Football club? Three senior teams in Edinburgh is too many.

[Caversham Green]

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The 3 clubs are possibly deserving of a small sum of compensation however it shouldn't be anywhere near the £3m or whatever amount Budge is saying it will cost them. The fact they were 4 points behind made them big favourites to go down and that should be taken into account. They can't be fully compensated when it was odds on they'd be last if the season was played in full. Something like £200k - £300k seems a fair amount to me. Besides, wasn't the figure quoted was lost revenue so didn't include the associated cost to achieve that revenue? I'd say it should be based on the bottom line not the top line.

Yep. If Hearts cut their wages by that £3m they won't be any worse off and they'll still have by far the biggest wages budget in the Championship.

[007]

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Along with many others, I guess, I find this hard to believe. I get the impression, looking at comments on FF, that Rangers voted against it. I also think that, all along, it was taken as read that they would both reject reconstruction. Is it a secret vote? Rhetorical question ..... how do they know we voted
against it? If they know the clubs who voted against reconstruction, why not publish the list? Are we going to suffer years of meaningless conjecture about who voted this way and who voted that way? So much for transparency.

It wasn't a vote, it was one of the topics covered in a Zoom meeting of the current 12 Premiership clubs and Dundee United. Someone has told Keith Jackson the outcome and he's opted for the Hibs putting the boot in angle even though the writing was already on the wall by the time it was Leeann's turn to speak.

I wonder if each CEO put a post-it on the screen over Budge's window so they wouldn't have to watch as they delivered her the bad news.

[Waxy]

Also agree there should be a small compensation for the clubs. Only small though, helps with the fairest unfair thing to do part.

[Hibeesmad]

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Also agree there should be a small compensation for the clubs. Only small though, helps with the fairest unfair thing to do part.

Perhaps pay up one of the charities they robbed.

[Box 17]

If Kickback is anything to go by the tide is beginning to turn, albeit slowly. Some of the less deluded ones are starting to accept their fate and realising that the cause of their predicament wasn't really the SPFL, Dundee, Hibs, Doncaster et al but completey due to the gross mismanagement of Budge and Levein.

[Col2]

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The thing is - it’s still not 100% confirmed so leaves Hearts in a situation where they can’t fully act and start planning.

It’s 99% confirmed but must be driving them mad this whole saga getting dragged out in the media for the whole U.K. to laugh at them and Rangers.

What it does show all along is the top 12 clubs in Premiership run Scottish Football and 11-1 voting system definitely has its pros and cons.

Hearts will have to win the championship to come back up as the playoffs will be a massive challenge as we know.

Wonder if we will play them in league cup group stages then in the semi ?!

Huge season for Dundee as they need to get back up. Would be happy to loan a player or two to them given our close relationship 😉

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Also agree there should be a small compensation for the clubs. Only small though, helps with the fairest unfair thing to do part.

They get a parachute payment anyway

[Col2]

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The 3 clubs are possibly deserving of a small sum of compensation however it shouldn't be anywhere near the £3m or whatever amount Budge is saying it will cost them. The fact they were 4 points behind made them big favourites to go down and that should be taken into account. They can't be fully compensated when it was odds on they'd be last if the season was played in full. Something like £200k - £300k seems a fair amount to me. Besides, wasn't the figure quoted was lost revenue so didn't include the associated cost to achieve that revenue? I'd say it should be based on the bottom line not the top line.

There is zero chance of any compensation. That would indicate an unfairness and potential legal challange. The minute the season in the top
League is confirmed as ending (anytime from next week to last week in May I would guess) it’s done. We can’t afford to finance other clubs who were relegated but were bottom of the league (something they seem to forget)

[Col2]

Let’s not forget they get £1.4m pa from FOH. They have also averaged £3m per year from mysterious benefactors.

Yet they STILL managed to screw it’s all up and get relegated.

Zero sympathy and zero compensation.

[Since452]

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If Kickback is anything to go by the tide is beginning to turn, albeit slowly. Some of the less deluded ones are starting to accept their fate and realising that the cause of their predicament wasn't really the SPFL, Dundee, Hibs, Doncaster et al but completey due to the gross mismanagement of Budge and Levein.

The defeat to St Mirren made a lot of them realise they were probably going down anyway. That was their cup final and took all the wind out their sails after they beat us. Hamilton winning at Ibrox was another. My Jambo mates are saying it's unfair to end the season like this but they think they were already looking at the Championship. Not all of them are delusional.

[The 90+2]

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Exactly - more than happy for us to be given the credit for delivering the coup de grâce! My only hope is Leeann did it with a dramatic pause a la X-Factor or I’m a Celeb 🙏🏻

😁😁

[jacomo]

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Would now be a good time for Ron to put a cheeky bid in for Hearts? Consolidate them in to Hibernian Football club? Three senior teams in Edinburgh is too many.

Nope, it’s not up to us to decide how many clubs there are in Edinburgh or Scotland. That was another example of hubris from Budge, when she declared there were ‘too many’ professional clubs in Scotland, and no doubt contributed to the lack of support she got for reconstruction.

[jacomo]

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😁😁

Perfect scene for the documentary.

“The club leaving us today is...


<cut to Budge, she’s welling up>


... Hearts.”

[007]

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There is zero chance of any compensation. That would indicate an unfairness and potential legal challange. The minute the season in the top
League is confirmed as ending (anytime from next week to last week in May I would guess) it’s done. We can’t afford to finance other clubs who were relegated but were bottom of the league (something they seem to forget)

SPFL could do nothing until Hearts take to court then SPFL offer it as an out of court settlement.

[Waxy]

Wondered if they’d calmed down a wee bit but no.
They’re getting worse, some of them are drowning in a sea of froth.

[Waxy]

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Perfect scene for the documentary.

“The club leaving us today is...


<cut to Budge, she’s welling up>


... Hearts.”

Or big brother style. Hearts.....you have been evicted...., Please leave the premier division.

[JimBHibees]

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😂

What's the phoodle nonsense about? Absolutely horrific patter.

[CapitalGreen]

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Probably a debate for a different place but I think this whole affair has shown that the game shouldn’t be run like a bowling club committee.

Clubs will always vote in self interest and not the game as a whole. Let’s get professionals without bias towards any club in to run the organisation professionally.

The fact that if things were to change it would be too late to save Hearts just makes things all the sweeter.

Professionals without bias towards any club to run the organisation - isn’t that what Neil Doncaster is? Unless you are going to build a Scottish football organisation made up of entirely of people from out with Scottish football (and probably out with Scotland as a country) I don’t think the above is realistic. Regardless of any real bias, football administrators will always be accused of bias by some due to past associations, what School they went too, previous employers, their religion and/or politics.

[The 90+2]

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Perfect scene for the documentary.

“The club leaving us today is...


<cut to Budge, she’s welling up>


... Hearts.”

Make it happen 😁

[GreenCastle]

The Pink Tiny Library stadium announcer isn’t very happy on Twitter..

“Snakes from Paisley. 8 members of their first team on 3/5/86 were Celtic fans and celebrated in the away dressing room post match. Professional club?”

Very professional tweet from a professional club employee.

[hibbysam]

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They get a parachute payment anyway

Don’t think you do for automatic relegation. Sure that was a caveat brought in for the playoffs.

[Aldo]

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Wondered if they’d calmed down a wee bit but no.
They’re getting worse, some of them are drowning in a sea of froth.

The seethe from some of my associates is funny. I’ve been really immature and posted a wee Status Quo song on my FB page to see if I could get a bite...... silence says it all!

O can you guess what song??


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[JimBHibees]

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The Pink Tiny Library stadium announcer isn’t very happy on Twitter..

“Snakes from Paisley. 8 members of their first team on 3/5/86 were Celtic fans and celebrated in the away dressing room post match. Professional club?”

Very professional tweet from a professional club employee.

Scott Wilson? You just know that story is nonsense. Was Albert Kidd not a Celtic fan also

[davym7062]

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The Pink Tiny Library stadium announcer isn’t very happy on Twitter..

“Snakes from Paisley. 8 members of their first team on 3/5/86 were Celtic fans and celebrated in the away dressing room post match. Professional club?”

Very professional tweet from a professional club employee.

glad too see it still hurts

[bringbackbenny]

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The Pink Tiny Library stadium announcer isn’t very happy on Twitter..

“Snakes from Paisley. 8 members of their first team on 3/5/86 were Celtic fans and celebrated in the away dressing room post match. Professional club?”

Very professional tweet from a professional club employee.

Always someone else's fault, lay the blame on other parties.