The generic Hearts thread

[Hibeesmad]

I will enjoy a cold can of lager the day the SPFL announce their relegation.

[munchar]

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I will enjoy a cold can of lager the day the SPFL announce their relegation.

Think I’ll join you sir. May even invest in a take away meal also. 🍺 🥘 🎉🎈🥳

[Mr Grieves]

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I see in the statement they have sold just over 2 K season tickets !

To be fair, it's the same number they had sold at the same stage last year

[007]

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My family Duncanette is whining that people are trying to bulldoze them into bankruptcy.

Oh, so it's everybody else and not Budge's serial mismanagement.6

I assume he does not listen to Sportsound or read Barry Anderson & co then.

[Irish_Steve]

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It would appear Hearts have only been able to confirm wage cuts today. I thought the final, final, absolute take it or you're sacked deadline set by the 'top businesswoman' (after a bitter and protracted stand-off) was at the start of last week?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52470316

"This commitment from all of our players, backroom team and off-field staff, which will to help maintain the long-term sustainability of the club, is hugely appreciated and we thank everyone for their continued support"


Yes, the commitment after the players were threatened with the sack - Stalin would be proud of that statement above

[Waxy]

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My family Duncanette is whining that people are trying to bulldoze them into bankruptcy.

Oh, so it's everybody else and not Budge's serial mismanagement.6

There own fault. If they’re no good at ownership level well, it can only end in disaster.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

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"This commitment from all of our players, backroom team and off-field staff, which will to help maintain the long-term sustainability of the club, is hugely appreciated and we thank everyone for their continued support"


Yes, the commitment after the players were threatened with the sack - Stalin would be proud of that statement above

That ship sailed paying the wages you do, or should I say did.

[Lunatic]

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"This commitment from all of our players, backroom team and off-field staff, which will to help maintain the long-term sustainability of the club, is hugely appreciated and we thank everyone for their continued support"


Yes, the commitment after the players were threatened with the sack - Stalin would be proud of that statement above

And we all look forward to seeing the level of commitment they show for you in the battleground that is the Scottish Championship next season.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...mpression=true

I wonder if a govt bailout would only be for top flight clubs?


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[lucky]

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...mpression=true

I wonder if a govt bailout would only be for top flight clubs?


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I can’t see the Scottish government using taxpayers money to bail out football. Our country is heading into massive economic uncertainty which could lead to massive unemployment as such taxpayers money will be needed elsewhere. The public won’t tolerate taxpayers cash being spent on football when the salaries are so high for players, managers and officials compared to those in normal life.

[Springbank]

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I can’t see the Scottish government using taxpayers money to bail out football. Our country is heading into massive economic uncertainty which could lead to massive unemployment as such taxpayers money will be needed elsewhere. The public won’t tolerate taxpayers cash being spent on football when the salaries are so high for players, managers and officials compared to those in normal life.

I agree

But I tell you what

The shameless out-of-their-depth impostors in Westminster, like Raab, Gove, Johnson, the people who run England, Wales, Ulster and (for the next few months) Scotland, they wont take the same view.

They will look to bail out clubs down South because it is a short term distraction & they dont care.

They dont care about the consequences
They dont care about you
They dont care about me
They dont care about Scotland
They dont care about the highest death rate going

They only care about the next 24 hour headlines & saving themselves

[Juniper Greens]

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I agree

But I tell you what

The shameless out-of-their-depth impostors in Westminster, like Raab, Gove, Johnson, the people who run England, Wales, Ulster and (for the next few months) Scotland, they wont take the same view.

They will look to bail out clubs down South because it is a short term distraction & they dont care.

They dont care about the consequences
They dont care about you
They dont care about me
They dont care about Scotland
They dont care about the highest death rate going

They only care about the next 24 hour headlines & saving themselves

I think they have already bailed out English Rugby League clubs to the tune of £16m. The Torries are doing everything they can to get Northern England on their side.

[Jack]

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I think they have already bailed out English Rugby League clubs to the tune of £16m. The Torries are doing everything they can to get Northern England on their side.

That's a loan.

I can see sort of 50/50 the Scottish Government offering something similar.

[greenpaper55]

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I agree

But I tell you what

The shameless out-of-their-depth impostors in Westminster, like Raab, Gove, Johnson, the people who run England, Wales, Ulster and (for the next few months) Scotland, they wont take the same view.

They will look to bail out clubs down South because it is a short term distraction & they dont care.

They dont care about the consequences
They dont care about you
They dont care about me
They dont care about Scotland
They dont care about the highest death rate going

They only care about the next 24 hour headlines & saving themselves

Thank you Nicola !

[steviehibsleith]

Engilish football league chairman Parry quoted in the DR saying there has to be relagation in the EPL or lawyers for championship teams will get rich and look for 200 million due to being in breach of tripartite agreement - three party agreement

Can see why UEFA handed over how leagues are called to countries own football association as everyone is different.

[Smartie]

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I can’t see the Scottish government using taxpayers money to bail out football. Our country is heading into massive economic uncertainty which could lead to massive unemployment as such taxpayers money will be needed elsewhere. The public won’t tolerate taxpayers cash being spent on football when the salaries are so high for players, managers and officials compared to those in normal life.

It depends on how long we’re talking about but I can’t see this being a huge sum of money. Big bucks are only really earned at 2 Scottish clubs with pretty big wages at maybe 3 or 4 more. That probably doesn’t add up to a lot of people or that much money.

The rest of the Scottish players will probably be fairly normal workers.

The idea of it will be unpalatable to many but in the grand scheme of things (such as huge chunks of the workforce having 80% of their wages paid) we’re probably not talking about massive sums of money.

[Brooster]

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I agree

But I tell you what

The shameless out-of-their-depth impostors in Westminster, like Raab, Gove, Johnson, the people who run England, Wales, Ulster and (for the next few months) Scotland, they wont take the same view.

They will look to bail out clubs down South because it is a short term distraction & they dont care.

They dont care about the consequences
They dont care about you
They dont care about me
They dont care about Scotland
They dont care about the highest death rate going

They only care about the next 24 hour headlines & saving themselves

Wrong forum.

[jacomo]

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I can’t see the Scottish government using taxpayers money to bail out football. Our country is heading into massive economic uncertainty which could lead to massive unemployment as such taxpayers money will be needed elsewhere. The public won’t tolerate taxpayers cash being spent on football when the salaries are so high for players, managers and officials compared to those in normal life.

The alternative is many football clubs going to the wall and thousands of people unemployed.

Not just football, but the entire entertainment and live event industry is in crisis - and this is a huge source of employment and wealth creation for ‘UK plc’. In Scotland, football clubs really are part of the glue holding many communities together.

Let that go to the wall and the costs further down the line will exceed any bail out now.

Large parts of the economy can probably return to something approaching normality soon - I see no reason why most shops and factories cannot re-open in some way soon.

But football and anything that relies on large crowds? That is a different matter.

[Irish_Steve]

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I will enjoy a cold can of lager the day the SPFL announce their relegation.

A can??? Surely a bottle of Corona lol

[hibeerealist]

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I agree

But I tell you what

The shameless out-of-their-depth impostors in Westminster, like Raab, Gove, Johnson, the people who run England, Wales, Ulster and (for the next few months) Scotland, they wont take the same view.

They will look to bail out clubs down South because it is a short term distraction & they dont care.

They dont care about the consequences
They dont care about you
They dont care about me
They dont care about Scotland
They dont care about the highest death rate going

They only care about the next 24 hour headlines & saving themselves

Ah we are a political forum now

[greenpaper55]

In a way football clubs are lucky in that they are getting money from ST sales in advance , no other leisure industry such as cinemas theatres etc will be so well supported.

[CraigHibee]

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A can??? Surely a bottle of Corona lol

[04Sauzee]

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Only been on sale a couple weeks
That’s quite a good number for Edinburgh’s 2nd best team

They launched 14th April
Think we were around 27th March
We had sold 3k on 10th April

Not knocking Hearts as i think all clubs sales are doing more than OK

[Hibernianinc]

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That's a loan.

I can see sort of 50/50 the Scottish Government offering something similar.

I agree.

Those clubs who need liquidity most will be delighted to secure access to cash that is not 'football debt'.

Personally I support the principle, but will clubs (two in particular) meet their repayment obligations?

[Smartie]

Financial help is a reasonable idea but it has the potential to be abused by the usual suspects.

[Blaster]

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I agree.

Those clubs who need liquidity most will be delighted to secure access to cash that is not 'football debt'.

Personally I support the principle, but will clubs (two in particular) meet their repayment obligations?

It could be taken from future prize money

Government loan an amount and the SPFL pay back so much per year from the overall prize fund before it gets passed out to the clubs

[Ozyhibby]

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It could be taken from future prize money

Government loan an amount and the SPFL pay back so much per year from the overall prize fund before it gets passed out to the clubs

Taking on new debt is not a good idea. It will hamper clubs for years.


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[SouthMoroccoStu]

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Financial help is a reasonable idea but it has the potential to be abused by the usual suspects.

Hearts should go back to their pals in the Lithuanian government

I'm sure they'd love to help them again

[Blaster]

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Taking on new debt is not a good idea. It will hamper clubs for years.


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Depends I guess how long lockdown will be. If clubs are going to go bust then better reducing slightly future prize money to keep them open in the short term

[munchar]

Hearts are it it!!
The benefactor has just disappeared? He/she will be back. Budge could also bail them out, but they’re forcing the players to take pay cuts. You watch, operating funds will miraculously appear next season. They’re just shafting they’re own employees. Horrible & embarrassing excuse for a football club.