The generic Hearts thread

[Barney McGrew]

Basically, back in yer box and stop talking pish Dr Mrs Budge:

https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-statement-46665

[DaveF]

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**** the hertz have they no been relegated yet, if no then why no!

You are consistent and one of these days you will be correct 😁

[jacomo]

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Basically, back in yer box and stop talking pish Dr Mrs Budge:

https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-statement-46665

That is sweet.

It’s also clear and concise, unlike Budges confused ramblings.

[MacGruber]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08bzw0f

A link to Chris McLaughlin talking about a club going into admin today.


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Why would a SPFL club have to go bust? Budge has brought it to national attention if push comes to shove article 12 it. At very least can threaten it and see what the players do in response. No other top league club is running about screatching article 12 threats out of desperation so conclusion is no other top flight club is in as much **** as Hearts.
Other running costs can't be solved by suspending player contracts but if a club was in so much difficulty they would be making this saving at least.
Hearts the only ones to beat this drum. They'll be back to charging their own disabled supporters for parking on land that they only pretended to own, dipping into their own charity buckets and stealing poppies to aid themselves soon.

If hearts do get relegated for being bottom of the league and the worst team in it for 15 months inspite of them out spending everyone other than the old firm it couldn't be funnier. Such a massive effort in fundraising from the fans and millions ploughed in and flushed straight down the pan. Excellent.

Hurry up next season when they can bleat about denying other clubs the maroon pound (not making this up). The same clubs that forked out to help save them when they were on their knees in self inflicted Admin by handing over percentages of their home gates. The most repulsive cheating sporting institute there is getting wound up about corruption and cheating. Couldn't make it up. Karma.

[weecounty hibby]

Get them down FFS. They have been utter dug***** for more than a season and sit at the bottom completely on merit, no matter how much they have spent. They are disgusting and would be happy to see other clubs go tits up just for them to remain in the premier league. Everyone, and that includes club chairmen, should remember how they lied about their financial situation in the past. Dundee got relegated and they then went into admin to save relegation that year. They lied, stole money from charities, the government, the local council, a university and many many small businesses. They signed players they them could not afford to pay.
They are the lowest form if life when it comes to football and they seem to have no shame at all. They have never once that I have seen been contrite about their past crimes and infact seem pleased and still see Vlad as a hero. They have learnt no lessons and continue with the big team facade. **** them, relegation followed by administration followed by going bust and playing in the lowland league is too good for them

[Brunswickbill]

I hadn’t realised that Sevco chairman Douglas Park was a major shareholder in Hertz during the the Wallace Mercer era. Maybe there’s more to Budge’s support for Sevco than meets the eye.

[mjhibby]

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SPFL club has discussed administration

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...fears-21960108

Probably Hearts but wouldn’t rule out Rangers.

Unlikely just yet. Any club has only missed 3 home games at most which does not amount to a loss as yet enough to go into admin. Unless they were relying on the walk-up fans to pay April’s wages. I doubt it also as a 15 point deduction would mean certain relegation next season.

[Since452]

The seethe, tears and snotters on kickback is beautiful. Raging at everything. Rod Petrie seems to have wound them up somehow. Strangely they seem to paint Tom English out as some sort of warrior poet who will disect any possible cover up. Very strange bunch. Brilliant viewing though 😂

[Ozyhibby]

If, as was suggested on sportsound yesterday, that there will be no games in front of crowds for the rest of the year then it’s possible that only the premier league can find a way of doing this viably. That means no football for Div 1 (including Hearts) anytime soon. In such a scenario it’s only fair that we cancel relegation next season as there is no fair way to decide who come up next season and it allows the premier clubs time and space to recover from the effects of Covid 19.
It’s the only fair way.


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[greenginger]

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Basically, back in yer box and stop talking pish Dr Mrs Budge:

https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-statement-46665

So its its established that old granny Budge does not know the difference between a loan and an advance.

Is there a chance she doesn’t know the difference between a loan and a donation either.

Maybe Benny Factor is actually the Loan Arranger

[Billy Whizz]

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If, as was suggested on sportsound yesterday, that there will be no games in front of crowds for the rest of the year then it’s possible that only the premier league can find a way of doing this viably. That means no football for Div 1 (including Hearts) anytime soon. In such a scenario it’s only fair that we cancel relegation next season as there is no fair way to decide who come up next season and it allows the premier clubs time and space to recover from the effects of Covid 19.
It’s the only fair way.


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Might not be any lower leagues, with spectators for a while. Premiership clubs can survive with TV money

[Waxy]

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So its its established that old granny Budge does not know the difference between a loan and an advance.

Is there a chance she doesn’t know the difference between a loan and a donation either.

Maybe Benny Factor is actually the Loan Arranger

Whatever happens, Benny Factor will have the wallet out for next season no matter what happens.
Even if they get demoted to division 2 for bringing the game into disrepute.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Is that kiwidoug chap one of ours on a mission?

[AltheHibby]

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Is that kiwidoug chap one of ours on a mission?

If he is, he's a bit obvious in winding them up.

"I agree with the OP. People like Doncaster can postulate all they like. We have not met the criteria for relegation, nor had Partick or Stranraer. What has been done to them is despicable.



This Covid is the worst thing ever to happen to the SPFL and they are completely out of their depth. Their only interest is pacifying the only two clubs which matter to them and they can't do it."

[hibeerealist]

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If, as was suggested on sportsound yesterday, that there will be no games in front of crowds for the rest of the year then it’s possible that only the premier league can find a way of doing this viably. That means no football for Div 1 (including Hearts) anytime soon. In such a scenario it’s only fair that we cancel relegation next season as there is no fair way to decide who come up next season and it allows the premier clubs time and space to recover from the effects of Covid 19.
It’s the only fair way.


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I will second that Ozy.

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Why would a SPFL club have to go bust? Budge has brought it to national attention if push comes to shove article 12 it. At very least can threaten it and see what the players do in response. No other top league club is running about screatching article 12 threats out of desperation so conclusion is no other top flight club is in as much **** as Hearts.
Other running costs can't be solved by suspending player contracts but if a club was in so much difficulty they would be making this saving at least.
Hearts the only ones to beat this drum. They'll be back to charging their own disabled supporters for parking on land that they only pretended to own, dipping into their own charity buckets and stealing poppies to aid themselves soon.

If hearts do get relegated for being bottom of the league and the worst team in it for 15 months inspite of them out spending everyone other than the old firm it couldn't be funnier. Such a massive effort in fundraising from the fans and millions ploughed in and flushed straight down the pan. Excellent.

Hurry up next season when they can bleat about denying other clubs the maroon pound (not making this up). The same clubs that forked out to help save them when they were on their knees in self inflicted Admin by handing over percentages of their home gates. The most repulsive cheating sporting institute there is getting wound up about corruption and cheating. Couldn't make it up. Karma.

great post mate

[jacomo]

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If he is, he's a bit obvious in winding them up.

"I agree with the OP. People like Doncaster can postulate all they like. We have not met the criteria for relegation, nor had Partick or Stranraer. What has been done to them is despicable.



This Covid is the worst thing ever to happen to the SPFL and they are completely out of their depth. Their only interest is pacifying the only two clubs which matter to them and they can't do it."

Er... the team who finishes bottom at the end of the season gets relegated. It’s obviously a bit complicated for KiwiDoug but that is the rule.

Now, technically, this league season is only suspended, and hasn’t ended yet - but the final call will surely come soon.

And then Hearts are doon.

[lapsedhibee]

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If, as was suggested on sportsound yesterday, that there will be no games in front of crowds for the rest of the year then it’s possible that only the premier league can find a way of doing this viably. That means no football for Div 1 (including Hearts) anytime soon. In such a scenario it’s only fair that we cancel relegation next season as there is no fair way to decide who come up next season and it allows the premier clubs time and space to recover from the effects of Covid 19.
It’s the only fair way.

It's the only fair way.

[Baader]

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Er... the team who finishes bottom at the end of the season gets relegated. It’s obviously a bit complicated for KiwiDoug but that is the rule.

Now, technically, this league season is only suspended, and hasn’t ended yet - but the final call will surely come soon.

And then Hearts are doon.

There is always peril being at the foot of the table. Obviously no one seen this coming and it's an unprecedented crisis. Normally rules don't apply to a lot of things right now.

Put simply, being at the bottom of the league is never a good move!

[Saint Hibee]

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There is always peril being at the foot of the table. Obviously no one seen this coming and it's an unprecedented crisis. Normally rules don't apply to a lot of things right now.

Put simply, being at the bottom of the league is never a good move!

But being at the bottom of the league takes away the fear of being bottom of the league, surely?

[ScottB]

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Unlikely just yet. Any club has only missed 3 home games at most which does not amount to a loss as yet enough to go into admin. Unless they were relying on the walk-up fans to pay April’s wages. I doubt it also as a 15 point deduction would mean certain relegation next season.

Rangers claimed to need a £10 million investment to make it to the end of the season. Hearts seem to be paying a lot of their bills via supporter donations and benefactor gifts.

Both are likely to be very vulnerable to any sort of cash shock. So yeah, a few games missed, less chance of existing benefactors having the resources to spare, season ticket sales for next season would be getting bought at the usual rate etc.

[Eyrie]

Maybe we're missing something?

Maybe it was all part of Hearts masterplan for the season that they would be kiwidoug-sh*te for the first 29 games and then, having lured everyone into a false sense of security, they would launch their preplanned nine game winning streak to finish the campaign in the giddy height of eighth place.

Maybe that's why they're convinced that they shouldn't be relegated?

[Billy Whizz]

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Rangers claimed to need a £10 million investment to make it to the end of the season. Hearts seem to be paying a lot of their bills via supporter donations and benefactor gifts.

Both are likely to be very vulnerable to any sort of cash shock. So yeah, a few games missed, less chance of existing benefactors having the resources to spare, season ticket sales for next season would be getting bought at the usual rate etc.

Rangers will last at least another season at least, going into admin etc would gift celtic 10 in a row
As for Hearts, FOH will play a massive part in them surviving, if they are relegated

[Keith_M]

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Rangers claimed to need a £10 million investment to make it to the end of the season. Hearts seem to be paying a lot of their bills via supporter donations and benefactor gifts.

Both are likely to be very vulnerable to any sort of cash shock. So yeah, a few games missed, less chance of existing benefactors having the resources to spare, season ticket sales for next season would be getting bought at the usual rate etc.

The Rangers season tickets are now on sale.

If their Fans rally round, they could potentially get over £10m from that source. I think they also just signed an extension to their shirt sponsorship, which must be worth a few quid as well.

Though, quite how they're going to cope from about August onwards, when that money's already spent, is anybody's guess.

[007]

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Maybe we're missing something?

Maybe it was all part of Hearts masterplan for the season that they would be kiwidoug-sh*te for the first 29 games and then, having lured everyone into a false sense of security, they would launch their preplanned nine game winning streak to finish the campaign in the giddy height of eighth place.

Maybe that's why they're convinced that they shouldn't be relegated?

Well they managed to erse that plan up then by losing the 1st of their 9 game streak to St Mirren and cemented their place at the bottom.

[Ozyhibby]

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The Rangers season tickets are now on sale.

If their Fans rally round, they could potentially get over £10m from that source. I think they also just signed an extension to their shirt sponsorship, which must be worth a few quid as well.

Though, quite how they're going to cope from about August onwards, when that money's already spent, is anybody's guess.

Sort extension? Hummel are suing them so that’s not likely. If they are trying to set up a new deal then it will be interesting to see what Ashley thinks of that as he has matching rights on any deal.


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[Waxy]

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Maybe we're missing something?

Maybe it was all part of Hearts masterplan for the season that they would be kiwidoug-sh*te for the first 29 games and then, having lured everyone into a false sense of security, they would launch their preplanned nine game winning streak to finish the campaign in the giddy height of eighth place.

Maybe that's why they're convinced that they shouldn't be relegated?

Think they’re convinced because there was a small chance they might have got out of it.
They dont get it though.
The season has ended early as final and fair.
Cant let hearts move up a place because they MIGHT have done better.
Youd have to give every team more money then because every team might have done better.
Cant not promote Dundee utd.
Cant add teams to league. No one wants or needs reconstruction.especially in these uncertain months.
Hearts are down and their fans heads are in the sand blaming everyone but themselves.

[BIGK]

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But being at the bottom of the league takes away the fear of being bottom of the league, surely?

Them being relegated will have the same effect, would surely be a relief for them?

[jacomo]

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Think they’re convinced because there was a small chance they might have got out of it.
They dont get it though.
The season has ended early as final and fair.
Cant let hearts move up a place because they MIGHT have done better.
Youd have to give every team more money then because every team might have done better.
Cant not promote Dundee utd.
Cant add teams to league. No one wants or needs reconstruction.especially in these uncertain months.
Hearts are down and their fans heads are in the sand blaming everyone but themselves.

This is it.

At the beginning of this season Hearts knew that if they finished bottom they would get relegated. Dundee Utd knew that if they won the Championship they would get promoted.

Unless there is league reconstruction, that is what must happen.

[Bostonhibby]

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Them being relegated will have the same effect, would surely be a relief for them?

Yep, they've been there for so long this season, and with Budge being such a successful person you can only really assume this was her target and she's not thrown all that money at it for nothing.

There's a masterplan.

There'll be one of her businessy type things around the corner that absolutely no one else is capable of doing. Tom English knows what's going on.

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