The generic Hearts thread

[brog]

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So, long after almost every club, they've finally got their players (or most of them) to take a wage reduction, through weeks of coercion and threats.


The class of that club knows no bounds.






p.s I thought I'd just point out that their overall wage bill, despite the reductions, is still massively higher than that at Easter Road. Amazing stuff, Queen Ann

Their total wage bill is indeed higher than ours but it's not massively & there's a strong case to be made that the average wage of our 1st team squad is actually higher than their's. The real difference comes from their bloated structure, 122 players & coaches etc versus our 76, & 71 admin & commercial staff versus our 35. They also have 146 p/t hospitality staff.
Here's the most recent (6/19) numbers.
Wages & salaries; Us, £5.561m Them, £7.446m. As above their total includes 146 p/t staff. If we say approx £3k a year each, we can knock off the £446k leaving their bill at £7m. Now let's say we both pay much the same for Comm/admin staff, say £20k a year, (this # doesn't really matter), that reduces our wage bill by £700k & Hearts by £1.42m. The balance of the wage bill is now Hibs, £4.861m, Hearts £5.58m.
We're shown as having 27 1st team players, including 4 loans & they have 29 inc 2 loans. We have 4 senior coaches shown & they have 5, plus Potter & Worzel!
That means they have an additional 86 players & coaches to our 45. Again let's choose a salary for these players etc. I often see £500 pw (£25k pa) bandied about on here as a wage for younger players. For arguments sake let's knock it down to £300 pw or £15k pa. That knocks their remaining (senior Players) wage bill down to £4.29m & ours to £4.19m.
Given they have 36 senior staff to pay compared to our 31, a straight average comes out at £119k pa for them & £135k pa for us. Now we can argue for ever about the numbers I've guesstimated here but whatever #s you use I believe it's apparent that our players are being paid at least comparable with those at PBS. Incidentally despite us only having 111 footballing/comm/admin staff to their 193, our pension payments are more than twice what Hearts are expending. The good news is Hearts reducing 1st team wages by 10/30% is not going to be significant.

[HoboHarry]

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The fitting and lighting of the name and Hearts crest are still amateurish, but that is the best photo of their new main stand I have seen... it really doesn’t look too bad there.

Agreed, best to be in the dark in keeping with their fans.....

[K-Zazu]

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It’s a pity we can’t get the semi final played now. With all the wage shenanigans and threats from the club owner their dressing room spirit must be on the floor.

They never got paid for weeks/months on end under Romanov If anything it helped them creates a siege mentality

[Iggy Pope]

Might’ve been noted already and sorry I can’t post a link, but there is an entertaining Twitter account, baiting our chums under the name Hearts Finally Apologise. It’s made me laugh.

[Billy Whizz]

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Might’ve been noted already and sorry I can’t post a link, but there is an entertaining Twitter account, baiting our chums under the name Hearts Finally Apologise. It’s made me laugh.

It’s on one of the threads Iggy

[Since452]

Once this is all over Hearts should look back and be embarrassed at the way they've conducted themselves.

Then again it is Hearts so probably won't

[Jack]

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I wonder if Budge was hoping that more would not agree so she could get rid of them and their wage. as it stands she'll have to find 70-90% of their wage bill which still appears unsustainable for them. and lumbered with them for the duration of their contracts.

If the staff have been furloughed the government will be chipping in towards that amount.

[Ozyhibby]

Is this the Jambo that writes for the guardian who has been pushing reconstruction the last couple of weeks?


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[Col2]

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Is this the Jambo that writes for the guardian who has been pushing reconstruction the last couple of weeks?


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Yup and on a single mission to keep the Jambos in the top league. Ignores all facts and counter arguments and now king fud on social media.

[007]

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Is this the Jambo that writes for the guardian who has been pushing reconstruction the last couple of weeks?


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Yes, he's the one that tries to pass himself off as a journalist. Would love to hear what BS he'd spout when those tweets were put in front of him.

[jacomo]

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Yes, he's the one that tries to pass himself off as a journalist. Would love to hear what BS he'd spout when those tweets were put in front of him.

Give it a go. £10 says he gives it the 1-5 then blocks you.

[007]

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Give it a go. £10 says he gives it the 1-5 then blocks you.

Someone's already done it.

https://twitter.com/BIGSHORTY100/sta...238322176?s=19

[Crazyhorse]

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The fitting and lighting of the name and Hearts crest are still amateurish, but that is the best photo of their new main stand I have seen... it really doesn’t look too bad there.

It looks pitch black so I’m inclined to agree that is definitely the best photo!
Maybe I’m looking at a different one to you?

[Since452]

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Is this the Jambo that writes for the guardian who has been pushing reconstruction the last couple of weeks?


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Oh dear

[truehibernian]

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Is this the Jambo that writes for the guardian who has been pushing reconstruction the last couple of weeks?


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The very same Ewan Murray...............never let him forget

https://www.theguardian.com/football...adimir-romanov

[Bostonhibby]

If ever there was a shoe in for the Duncan gig it's Ewan.

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[EdinMike]

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The very same Ewan Murray...............never let him forget

https://www.theguardian.com/football...adimir-romanov

“ Hearts' greatest player, Willie Bauld, refused to set foot inside Tynecastle for years after being charged for the matchball for his testimonial game.”

They really are cheapskates.

[Stonewall]

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If the staff have been furloughed the government will be chipping in towards that amount.

Ultimately it’s us that pays.

[O'Rourke3]

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Ultimately it’s us that pays.

I'm happy enough about my contribution to that so long as they go down....

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[MWHIBBIES]

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It’s a pity we can’t get the semi final played now. With all the wage shenanigans and threats from the club owner their dressing room spirit must be on the floor.

They could start the u14s and we'd find a way to make a meal of it.

[ballengeich]

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Ultimately it’s us that pays.

and many generations to follow.

[Rumble de Thump]

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Yes, he's the one that tries to pass himself off as a journalist. Would love to hear what BS he'd spout when those tweets were put in front of him.

I always find it disturbing when a journalist abuses their position to spout biased garbage for their own selfish agenda. People like Ewan Murray shouldn't be confused with decent, quality and impartial journalists.

[jacomo]

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The very same Ewan Murray...............never let him forget

https://www.theguardian.com/football...adimir-romanov

He’s unbearable. But he’s at least consistent - when Hearts do something indefensible, he will try to obfuscate the issue and throw mud in as many directions as possible (bonus points for any needless and out of context digs at us of course).

Still, that article - maroon tinged throughout - carries the tacit admission that Hearts are a basket case and have been for decades.

All this fury and indignation is not really about ‘unfairness’. It’s about the horrific consequences of relegation for them. They are in a hole.

[Dan Sarf]

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“ Hearts' greatest player, Willie Bauld, refused to set foot inside Tynecastle for years after being charged for the matchball for his testimonial game.”

They really are cheapskates.

Em, Hibs refused to pay for Gordon Smith's ankle operation.

[Ozyhibby]

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Em, Hibs refused to pay for Gordon Smith's ankle operation.

Yip, people complaining about what agents take out of the game forget how disgracefully clubs treated players before they came along.


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[Eyrie]

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Em, Hibs refused to pay for Gordon Smith's ankle operation.

And he went on to win two more league titles after paying for the operation himself.

Interesting fact - Huns RIP and Celtc have the most league titles, but Smith is third with five which puts him ahead of us, Aberdeen and Hearts who each have four. And Smith never played for the Ugly Sisters.

[brog]

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Yip, people complaining about what agents take out of the game forget how disgracefully clubs treated players before they came along.


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I think it's ok to complain about both. Players were treated disgracefully but some current agents, a well known Scottish one springs to mind, behave disgracefully.

[Waxy]

Jambos are at the tantrum stage now.

[AltheHibby]

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Jambos are at the tantrum stage now.

And they're infighting about joining the English leagues. And that muppet Lawson reckons they're the most Scottish club up here!

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...ottish-league/

[Bostonhibby]

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And they're infighting about joining the English leagues. And that muppet Lawson reckons they're the most Scottish club up here!

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...ottish-league/

Pleasing. You'd think Hearts were being relegated, why haven't some of these revolutionary ideas came up before on kickback? Say around January for example, or when they were bragging about beating st Mirren before the lockdown then relegating them?

By the looks of it there's going to be an awful lot of corrupt leagues around the world relegating the teams that were at the bottom when the season had to end.



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