The generic Hearts thread

[Roxyhibee]

Almost every club has played 30 games. Hundreds of goals have been scored (and lost). Hundreds of thousands of people have paid a phenomenal amount of money (I’m not even going to ball park that) to watch it all happen. No one is going to put a null and void pen through all that. There is no alternative in these extraordinarily dangerous and tragic times but to finish the lot as it stands.

[Jim44]

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We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference.


On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend.



That my friends is ****ing karma!!!

[Bostonhibby]

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It's interesting to see a few of them saying on JKB that they'll be cancelling their FOH donations - out of disgust with the league you understand, no other reason.

Our family yam cancelled his almost as soon as it was set up because "Budge has saved us now".

I know it was because he's a tight *******.

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[stoneyburn hibs]

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We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference.


On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend.



That my friends is ****ing karma!!!

Thanks, loving this !
It would bring a tear to a glass curtain.

[Del Boy]

Ayr are voting yes

[Col2]

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Tin hat on.

The prize money at stake for finishing 7th, which Is the likely outcome, is not a lot of money in real terms, especially if we get a good early response for season tickets.

This may surprise a few folk of here but I think Hibs will not approve a vote that would get Hearts relegated in the current circumstances. I would laugh out loud if they were sent down, but would have the feeling that it was not right.

To finish the season on current league positions may be the best option, out of all the options available. However ,there must be another, fairer alternative.

For the 4001 time Hibs would not be voting to relegate Hearts. They have two choices. Vote for null and void and risk like others the threat of legal claim from sponsors, advertisers, even season ticket holders who would/might want a full refund for a season that didn’t happen.Therefore they have no option other than to vote to call it. There was no 3rd, 4th, 5th option.

Hibs a professional well run business who will vote on key issues like the one we are all facing in the right way, non emotive and to protect the interests of our club and wider Scottish footballl.

[mjhibby]

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I see Hearts are starting with the "will never visit that ground again and starve them of cash" chat.

If that threat didn't work with Rangers, who have a support about 5 times as big as hearts , it's certainly not going to work for wee Hearts.

This is going to very tough on Hearts and their supporters. Can genuinely see financial trouble ahead for them.

Will they continue to overspend. Of course they will. They are lucky that the championship is the weakest it's been for years. They should come straight back up.

[04Sauzee]

Statement o'clock

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3

[Eyrie]

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We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference.


On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend.



That my friends is ****ing karma!!!

You couldn't make that up.

They think it's acceptable to relegate another team on goal difference, yet demand legal action when they have created a clear four point gap for themselves.

[mjhibby]

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It's interesting to see a few of them saying on JKB that they'll be cancelling their FOH donations - out of disgust with the league you understand, no other reason.

Are they really saying that. Can't bring myself to look at kickback as I've read too much looney stuff on the virus and can't be bothered reading more insane postings.

[Hibby70]

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Statement o'clock

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3

Dear Hearts fans, it's your Anne here. We are busy trying anything to try and wriggle out of relegation.
Please help us Obi Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope.

[GRA]

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From the Guardian. Lovely stuff;

"The Scottish Professional Football League aims to crown Celtic as champions and relegate Heart of Midlothian after 23 April, the earliest date Uefa is willing to accept for the abandonment of top divisions.A meeting between the league’s board and clubs on Wednesday resulted in the recommendation of a resolution for a vote in each of the four divisions on whether to end their season as it stands, with places allocated on an average points-per-game basis.

Nine of the 12 Premiership clubs would need to vote in favour, and the SPFL, having canvassed opinion, is understood to be fully confident of it passing. Votes will be collated before the start of next week.

A subsequent delay in abandoning the top-flight campaign would then be expected in order to follow Uefa guidance. The European game’s governing body has warned of possible restrictions to Champions League and Europa League entry if member associations abandon seasons prematurely. The SPFL does not regard that as a serious risk but is anxious not to antagonise Uefa.

The Hearts owner, Ann Budge, has spoken of legal action should the league demote her club, who are four points adrift with eight games to play. Rangers have publicly spoken out against any early finish to the campaign and did so again on Wednesday afternoon.

“It is abhorrent that certain clubs could be unfairly relegated if the current SPFL proposals were implemented,” read an Ibrox statement, which added: “The consequences of forcing through change without due care and attention will have severe consequences for the Scottish game.”
Rangers insist “the 2019-20 season is only complete when all 38 games have been played to a finish”.

Under the average-points plan, only Hibernian and St Johnstone – currently sixth and seventh respectively – would change places.
Dundee United will be promoted to Scotland’s top division if Championship clubs pass their element of the resolution. That element may hold the key to the SPFL’s plans, with several clubs considering their options. It also irked Championship boards that the league issued a statement as their occasionally feisty round of talks were ongoing.

The bottom two divisions are expected to back an immediate end to their seasons, with 15 from 20 needing to agree in a combined vote. Brechin City, otherwise consigned to a play-off to save their spot in League Two, would be saved.

One glimmer of hope for Hearts - and Partick Thistle, who would be relegated from the Championship - came in an SPFL statement. “If the resolution is approved, the SPFL has also committed to consulting with clubs over the possibility of league restructuring ahead of season 2020-21,” it read. That prospect, primarily of a 14-team Premiership as mooted by Budge on Wednesday, is currently viewed by insiders as remote.
Numerous clubs across Scotland have been keen for the season to be defined so as to release prize money, issued on the basis of placings.
Neil Doncaster, the league’s chief executive, said: “We are keen to work with Uefa and remain in discussion with them over the situation in Scotland. The quicker we reach a final position the better.”

Clubs were informed of a necessity to start the 2020-21 Premiership season on the first Saturday in August, as part of Sky Sports’ new and exclusive live television deal. That campaign has therefore been granted priority, even though there is no guarantee of football in early August.
The Scottish FA hopes to complete the 2019-20 Scottish Cup, currently at the semi-final phase, possibly as the opening games of “next” season.

Aberdeen, fourth in the Premiership, would have a possible route to the Europa League only via the cup but it is understood they could instead be put forward by the Scottish FA on the basis of league position"

Bet Ewan Murray had tears flowing into his keyboard as he was typing that 🤣 Jambo welt.

[bringbackbenny]

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Statement o'clock

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3

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Boo hoo, in essence it's not fair, I don't like the rules I signed up to. So 'we' need to change all together.

Simples, don't pi'** millions up with crappy glass curtains, run your club properly, don't be the worst team in the league and instead go back to your wonderful anon dodgy benefactors and ask them to open their purses.

[Ozyhibby]

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The threat of legal action has been quietly dropped. She knows they are toast.


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[Bishop Hibee]

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Statement o'clock

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3

🎶 We’re sick of your stories we’re tired of your songs, get back in the gutter that’s where you belong 🎶

[Kato]

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You mean this ?


https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...this-scenario/

Yes, cheers. For those who dont click onto sickbag it looks like this, and is followed by those weird replies with pictures of obscure people looking pompous and self satisfied.

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[mjhibby]

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Hearts boycotting away grounds if they're ever promoted. So that'll be one man visiting instead of one man and his dog then?

The same nonsense sevco came out with. Their away form has been so dire I'm amazed they get any going to their away games. Unless they face the reality that they would probably be relegated anyway if the season finished they could be in big trouble. There is clearly a massive split in the squad over pay cuts/deferrals and not many of the squad will have relegation clauses in their contracts. Stendel maybe hinted at what's going to happen when he mentioned having a squad of a few older hands and more youngsters in the team. That would be financial reality kicking in rather than youngsters who can play his famous pressing game. I wonder if they will ever admit that stendel has been a shocking appointment. I doubt it and they will reel out every excuse possible and won't mention how they blew £10m of the foh payments and the millions from Mr Benny factor.

[steviehibsleith]

[QUOTE=04Sauzee;6137745]Statement o'clock

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3[/.

interesting she was earlier threatening legal action but never mentions it int the above statement.
Also the quote from her statement below seems to accept its a crisis and you have to accept things - in her case to suit Hearts.

If the Government can change the Laws of the Land, within 24 hours, to cope with this crisis, then surely it cannot be impossible for Scottish Football’s Governing bodies to modify rules to get things done.

[Kojock]

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https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3

Statement in full.

Following the SPFL briefings held today, and having now had the opportunity (post meeting) to read the written resolution being proposed, I can confirm that Heart of Midlothian will not be voting in favour of the proposal as it stands.
Over the past 24 hours, in advance of today’s meetings, a number of Clubs have been discussing possible options and sharing ideas. Many of those Clubs believe, as we do, that a decision of such magnitude requires significantly more discussion and debate than has been made available to us.

I absolutely understand that finding an equitable outcome for all will not be easy. However, I firmly believe that we must try to find a solution which ensures that no Club should be penalised as a consequence of these exceptional circumstances.

It was emphasised today that some clubs, particularly those in the lower Leagues, need funds to be released to help them navigate their way through this exceptional situation. I do not accept however, that this resolution needs to be passed in order to release those funds. If the Government can change the Laws of the Land, within 24 hours, to cope with this crisis, then surely it cannot be impossible for Scottish Football’s Governing bodies to modify rules to get things done. This is a time for pragmatism, not rules. There are other ways of addressing the current financial challenges and as such we will be supporting the Members Resolution being put forward by Rangers.

I wrote to the SPFL on the 15th March, asking that all 42 clubs be given the opportunity and time to discuss this situation fully. That has not happened and we now find ourselves once again in apparent disarray. For the avoidance of doubt, I am not pointing fingers at the SPFL Executive, nor indeed at the Board, as I know how much effort has gone into trying to find a way through this totally unprecedented situation. However, an issue of this scale was always going to demand full involvement of the member Clubs.

I also asked that we try to see this as an opportunity to look at whether a league restructure, so often talked about, could help us through this difficult time. I was disappointed to read in the papers issued today that it will be considered, but it was also stated that “…it is very difficult to achieve consensus behind any restructuring proposal, let alone quickly”. This is an emergency situation, and Clubs acknowledge and many accept that it needs actions befitting an emergency situation. Decisions taken to see us through this emergency do not have to be cast in stone. We need to look at the restructuring option with belief that it will help and not with negativity.

This is a time for all Clubs and SPFL partners to pull together to find an equitable solution for all. If something is right, it is right: if it is wrong, it is wrong. We will continue to lobby for doing the right thing, both for Clubs and for Scottish Football.

[Hibees1973]

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Like what?

Don’t mean that in an arsey way, there just isn’t a fairer way I don’t think.

You are right and fairer is probably the wrong word. Going on press articles it’s obvious Hearts will vote against it and by their posturing, Rangers also. So, if one other club votes against it the SPFL would have to explore other options.

I don’t know what the solution is, but this scenario is possible. Stalemate.

[Ozyhibby]

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Statement o'clock

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3[/.

interesting she was earlier threatening legal action but never mentions it int the above statement.
Also the quote from her statement below seems to accept its a crisis and you have to accept things - in her case to suit Hearts.

If the Government can change the Laws of the Land, within 24 hours, to cope with this crisis, then surely it cannot be impossible for Scottish Football’s Governing bodies to modify rules to get things done.

She wants rules changed to save Hearts. She obviously realised the rules just now mean they are down.


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[Deansy]

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The threat of legal action has been quietly dropped. She knows they are toast.


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Nah - it's because she knows that 'Legal-aid' wouldn't be given !

[Green Reaper]

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Yes, cheers. For those who dont click onto sickbag it looks like this, and is followed by those weird replies with pictures of obscure people looking pompous and self satisfied.

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Thanks Kato, will save this to be shared at the appropriate time 😁

[Paul1642]

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You are right and fairer is probably the wrong word. Going on press articles it’s obvious Hearts will vote against it and by their posturing, Rangers also. So, if one other club votes against it the SPFL would have to explore other options.

I don’t know what the solution is, but this scenario is possible. Stalemate.

Only 9 of the 12 required

[we are hibs]

That statement is absolutely pathetic - even by her standards. Deluded.

[Rumble de Thump]

I would think Sevco would only vote against it if they are confident Hearts is the only other club that will vote against it. Sevco won't be winning the league whatever happens and they need money ASAP. Calling the league as it stands now allows Sevco to pretend Celtic's title doesn't count and they get the money they desperately need sooner. But by voting against it when they know it will be voted through anyway allows them to publicly posture and pander to their weird fanbase.

[Paul1642]

Going by the league only Aberdeen really have much to gain from continuing (excluding rangers and hearts). Most other teams have either more to lose than gain or not much chance in improving. Celtic, Motherwell, Livingston, St Johnstone, Hamilton, Ross County and St Mirren would all be delighted to finish now and I don’t see us or Killi having enough to gain to make it worth continuing (Killi in theory could still get sucked into relegation battle with a few defeats). Similar theory applies through most of the lower divisions.

[Del Boy]

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Only 9 of the 12 required

It’s the championship and below that might be the problem. Raith chairman says he doesn’t think it will go through.

Kheridine from BBC also tweeted that he doesn’t think it will pass.

Time will tell.

[grunt]

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If something is right, it is right: if it is wrong, it is wrong.

She is BRILLIANT.

[James Stephen]

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Statement o'clock

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...tatement-1-2-3[/.

interesting she was earlier threatening legal action but never mentions it int the above statement.
Also the quote from her statement below seems to accept its a crisis and you have to accept things - in her case to suit Hearts.

If the Government can change the Laws of the Land, within 24 hours, to cope with this crisis, then surely it cannot be impossible for Scottish Football’s Governing bodies to modify rules to get things done.

I think she will find that it is the Scottish Parliament, not the Scottish Government that changed laws.

And it happened because all of the members of said parliament voted, democratically, to do that.