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    Quote Originally Posted by James Stephen View Post
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    The thing that average table shows to me is that, as expected, the league table is as it should be - i.e. it is meritocratic.

    So while a team can say we could have seen an upturn and caught team above, we can base decisions on what we know to be the case, and using the guiding principle that the previous 80% of the season is as fair a guide as possible as to how the remaining 20% would have gone.

    It reinforces that current placings are a good guide.
    If uefa’s plan to play in July/August happens it won’t matter.
    And Hearts plans to play with youth will be canned as well as they attempt to sign expensive players in a bid to beat the drop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    He has played a lot of youngsters already in all fairness. I figured it was because the majority of the squad are utter ****.

    It sounds like an off-the-cuff summary of Levein’s ‘strategy’ too. If you go back through his interviews he will have said similar things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AltheHibby View Post
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    I would like to see the table if we replicated the last equivalent matches for the games still to be played.
    Will have a shot at that tomorrow Philippine time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs View Post
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    Will have a shot at that tomorrow Philippine time.
    It’s not possible as there is no equivalent match this season for the unplayed fixture between Rangers and St Johnstone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    They are now suggesting youth (cheap) is the answer, sprinkled with a 2-3 experienced players.

    They are so predictable. This will be the new 5 year plan. They know they are going down down down..

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-youth-2527452
    What true visionaries they are. They completely remolded their set-up because *insert real reason here.......* this is the plan to win the SPFL over the next 5 years by following the youth system examples of Barcelona and Real Madrid.

    *they cannot afford their massively overpaid 12th placed football team having thrown the kitchen sink at dross last summer and winter to get ahead of Hibs. They are broke, up the creek without a paddle and staring the Scottish Championship in the face next season with the 4th/3rd highest wage bill in Scotland.*

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    UEFA saying that any country not finishing their domestic leagues may be banned from European competitions next season. All bow down to money, the only thing they think about.

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    I can’t see it happening, but if this season’s fixtures are to be completed, squads should be “locked in” as they are now (am aware of the contractual issues this presents).

    The poppy thieves shouldn’t be permitted to buy their way out of this, that would be more unfair than finishing the season now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas View Post
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    UEFA saying that any country not finishing their domestic leagues may be banned from European competitions next season. All bow down to money, the only thing they think about.
    Sounds good to me.

    And thanks for the replies to my last post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas View Post
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    UEFA saying that any country not finishing their domestic leagues may be banned from European competitions next season. All bow down to money, the only thing they think about.
    Uefa are thinking about their own income. That may come up against individual leagues thinking about their own income and the two may not be quite in sync.


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    Is it an option to play the 3 games to the split and call it a day there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas View Post
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    UEFA saying that any country not finishing their domestic leagues may be banned from European competitions next season. All bow down to money, the only thing they think about.

    What does this mean?

    They want all outstanding fixtures to be fulfilled? Or just that the season should be declared as finished?

    And yes money is a pressing and valid concern for any business in the broader event or entertainment business right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    And yes money is a pressing and valid concern for any business in the broader event or entertainment business right now!
    And Hertz. Although, to be fair, they are entertaining us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    It sounds like an off-the-cuff summary of Levein’s ‘strategy’ too. If you go back through his interviews he will have said similar things.
    True. He also liked putting in youngsters in the big games then blaming lack of squad depth when pumped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    Same. However the issue in this methodology is that Rangers are due to play St Johnstone at home but there is no proxy to use for that result as they haven’t already played at Ibrox this season.
    I am proposing using the average of all games between the two teams. So would use the two games at Saints ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Uefa are thinking about their own income. That may come up against individual leagues thinking about their own income and the two may not be quite in sync.


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    There will no football by end July so UEFA will need to come up with a fresh solution. The FIFA national team co-efficient calculation could be used across leagues to predict the results of unplayed games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Stephen View Post
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    The thing that average table shows to me is that, as expected, the league table is as it should be - i.e. it is meritocratic.

    So while a team can say we could have seen an upturn and caught team above, we can base decisions on what we know to be the case, and using the guiding principle that the previous 80% of the season is as fair a guide as possible as to how the remaining 20% would have gone.

    It reinforces that current placings are a good guide.
    That's all it will do reflect the current league position. It won't take into account what the outcome of the remaining games pre and post split will be. We are playing the 7, 11 and 1st teams so would expect slightly better results than our current average. Post split we are playing the top sides so would expect a points haul below our average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    Is it an option to play the 3 games to the split and call it a day there.
    I thought about that but if we can get to the stage of playing three games we could play the other 5 in about 2 weeks so we’d be as well doing that.

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    UEFA saying that any country not finishing their domestic leagues may be banned from European competitions next season. All bow down to money, the only thing they think about.
    A-holes, what will they do if this goes on indefinitely? (Tho I’m sure it won’t, but who knows?)

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    Hearts squad still on full pay then?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs View Post
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    I can’t see it happening, but if this season’s fixtures are to be completed, squads should be “locked in” as they are now (am aware of the contractual issues this presents).

    The poppy thieves shouldn’t be permitted to buy their way out of this, that would be more unfair than finishing the season now.
    Are they going to keep the transfer window closed until we finish their season. Surely any player signed after July 1 can't play as they wouldn't be eligible for games if they were played just now.

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    Just had a look at the Companies House site to see if Mrs Budges Bidco 1874 accounts for last year have been submitted .

    They were due on 30th March, but she must have applied for an extension, because the accounts are now shown as due on 30th June.

    She wouldn’t be trying to hide anything, would she. ?

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    I can’t see it happening, but if this season’s fixtures are to be completed, squads should be “locked in” as they are now (am aware of the contractual issues this presents).

    The poppy thieves shouldn’t be permitted to buy their way out of this, that would be more unfair than finishing the season now.
    100% this. Months of delay between games will already distort the expected outcomes and performances of players and teams. Morale, form and fitness of players/teams in March would be irrelevant. Restarting the season is in effect starting brand new mini-league and cup competitions - albeit with points differences and less teams.

    IMO there is FAR more scope to get a distorted outcome to the season than had it run to a normal conclusion. That would be even less fair than stopping it now. This has nowt to do with fairness and all to do with dirty cash for UEFA.

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    Are they going to keep the transfer window closed until we finish their season. Surely any player signed after July 1 can't play as they wouldn't be eligible for games if they were played just now.
    They'd have to keep the window closed.

    Agents won't be too happy about that, though

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    'Anyone seen the 'Hearts till I die" Facebook page? Totally cringe worthy comments, they really do believe that Budge is the new Messiah leading Scottish football out of this crisis. I can't take any more of it and have had to block it 😂

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    I think we should restart with a 42 team league, every team playing each other once at home and once away, so 82 games in all.


    Play this over a period of two years, then create three new leagues (with 18, 12 and 12 teams) based on the standings at the end of that season.




    Thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    I think we should restart with a 42 team league, every team playing each other once at home and once away, so 82 games in all.


    Play this over a period of two years, then create three new leagues (with 18, 12 and 12 teams) based on the standings at the end of that season.




    Thoughts?

    Its about the same amount of crackers as having no relegation just because its hearts that are going down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxy View Post
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    Its about the same amount of crackers as having no relegation just because its hearts that are going down.


    So that'll be a NO from you then.



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    Uefa’s new plan to play the games (won’t happen) means the yams have to keep their players on board in case it actually happens.


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    Uefa’s new plan to play the games (won’t happen) means the yams have to keep their players on board in case it actually happens.


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    Brilliant 👌 may even have to offer some a 1 year deal, even though they don’t fancy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Just had a look at the Companies House site to see if Mrs Budges Bidco 1874 accounts for last year have been submitted .

    They were due on 30th March, but she must have applied for an extension, because the accounts are now shown as due on 30th June.

    She wouldn’t be trying to hide anything, would she. ?
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