Coronavirus

[Sir David Gray]

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I was reading earlier that because there is no 'end game' to the plan of social distancing, in the sense that whilst you can lower the numbers infected but realistically can't get that to zero, then we could be in the current situation for 18 months to 2 years. Basically as soon as restrictions are lifted then the virus starts to spread again as it is doing currently.

That's a frightening thought in many ways. Months of isolation isn't good for mental health. Many of us will be alive but how many will still have jobs if things reach the extreme end of the timescale? How do you help children catch up their education when the schools inevitably close? How many sports club and social groups will go out of existence?

It's going to be interesting to see how societies and communities react to what is coming. A hell of a lot of people are going to need a lot of support to recover from this. The mentality of the British public over the last few years doesn't fill me with hope that it will happen.

That's a very scary thought. We're only in the early days of restrictions and I'm starting to struggle already. I'm not sure how I'm going to cope if this lasts for several months.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

The past few days has made me actively start looking into re-training in a different sector altogether

[Colr]

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Idris Elba tests positive without any symptoms. How does that work? Nobody is allowed to be tested - including doctors and nurses who are dealing with this - unless they’re so ill they end up in hospital yet a celebrity with no symptoms has been. What a ****ing joke.

Someone I know in the NHS was briefed today that they are limiting tests because they have not secured enough test kits.

[matty_f]

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Type 1 diabetic, could work from home, 1 confirmed positive test of covid-19 in the building, a further 3 rumored......."No, business as usual, you've to come in to work"

I think your employer could be in a really bad situation if that's the case, and you were unfortunate enough to contract the virus. I'd imagine the legal case you would have against them would be very strong, and they'd be on the hook for a lot of money.

Employers need to balance up keeping the doors open with the well-being off their staff and their staff's families.

I am expected to go to work tomorrow but I'd be amazed if, once they've had time to assess the situation and make plans, the instruction isn't to work from home until further notice.

[Colr]

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How quick can you get a result from a test?

Same day in South Korea!

[EskbankHibby]

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...3TV-SOs7CEvLOs

[EskbankHibby]

Heavy going but a brutal read.

[calumhibee1]

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I think your employer could be in a really bad situation if that's the case, and you were unfortunate enough to contract the virus. I'd imagine the legal case you would have against them would be very strong, and they'd be on the hook for a lot of money.

Employers need to balance up keeping the doors open with the well-being off their staff and their staff's families.

I am expected to go to work tomorrow but I'd be amazed if, once they've had time to assess the situation and make plans, the instruction isn't to work from home until further notice.

Bearing in mind I'm a Civil Servant, I'm absolutely stunned that my work haven't told us to stay at home. I can work from home, there's very little reason for me to be in the office and our "leader" is urging people to work from home when we can... yet we've still to go in.

[Frankhfc]

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Heavy going but a brutal read.

Lays it out as it is. I'm stocking up on alcohol, socks and pants next. Want to make sure I've clean ones on if the worst happens. Also if I've to self isolate at any time I'll want to have a decent amount of beer in to see me through. I don't drink during the week as a rule but I'm having a couple or three to take the edge off just now.

Mon Hibs

[Pretty Boy]

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Lays it out as it is. I'm stocking up on alcohol, socks and pants next. Want to make sure I've clean ones on if the worst happens. Also if I've to self isolate at any time I'll want to have a decent amount of beer in to see me through. I don't drink during the week as a rule but I'm having a couple or three to take the edge off just now.

Mon Hibs

I never, ever drink during the week but I had a couple tonight.

It's a situation that is almost impossible to comprehend. My daughter is 2 and may spend a chunk of her formative years 'socially distanced'. It's only a matter of time before her nursery closes, her swimming lessons and ballet have gone and I suppose non essential contact includes visiting her friends. At the other end of the scale my Grandad is 87 in May, lives alone and, because my partner and I can't work from home, we'll have to limit face to face contact with him. That can't be good for him and frankly I get the impression he would rather take his chances with the virus than exist, it's not really living, in such a way for months on end. Every single interview I have seen with anyone involved with the government makes it clear the '12 weeks' timescale is bollocks. You can see in their face and hear in their voice that they know it's going to be far longer than that. Add to all that the financial worries because our government lags miles behind some of our European neighbours in what support they are going to offer individuals and businesses and it just becomes a total mind **** to put it bluntly.

I daresay people will adjust to a new normal given time but it's a pretty daunting prospect. This isn't a couple of weeks pretending it's the blitz.

[Frankhfc]

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I never, ever drink during the week but I had a couple tonight.

It's a situation that is almost impossible to comprehend. My daughter is 2 and may spend a chunk of her formative years 'socially distanced'. It's only a matter of time before her nursery closes, her swimming lessons and ballet have gone and I suppose non essential contact includes visiting her friends. At the other end of the scale my Grandad is 87 in May, lives alone and, because my partner and I can't work from home, we'll have to limit face to face contact with him. That can't be good for him and frankly I get the impression he would rather take his chances with the virus than exist, it's not really living, in such a way for months on end. Every single interview I have seen with anyone involved with the government makes it clear the '12 weeks' timescale is bollocks. You can see in their face and hear in their voice that they know it's going to be far longer than that. Add to all that the financial worries because our government lags miles behind some of our European neighbours in what support they are going to offer individuals and businesses and it just becomes a total mind **** to put it bluntly.

I daresay people will adjust to a new normal given time but it's a pretty daunting prospect. This isn't a couple of weeks pretending it's the blitz.

You're previous posts along with this one have demonstrated you've realised the enormity of what's actually happening here. It must seem surreal to a lot of people as the WHO state we've not seen anything like this since the H1N1 1918 flu pandemic.

People are going to die. Lots of them and those left behind will also suffer severe consequences of the economic kind and who knows what the future holds.

The young need to be protected somehow from the harsh realities of what's going to happen. I don't know how they will be but hopefully the generations of the future will go on to create a better future.

A vaccine isn't proposed likely for at least 18 months or more away so who knows what the mortatliy rate might end up as.

Me I'm going to take each day as it comes and take the preventative measures proposed such as keeping the hands clean but in the long term most of us will get the virus in any case.

If I sound slightly tipsy its because I am but I speak genuinely.

God Bless us all.

Mon Hibs

[AugustaHibs]

We will get through this, may be turbulent but we will get through it.

[-Jonesy-]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/ale...mpression=true

This is pretty scary

[Kato]

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/ale...mpression=true

This is pretty scary

Scary but hardly surprising.

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[-Jonesy-]

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/ale...mpression=true

This is pretty scary

Sorry just realised it’s essentially an article about the previous linked report.

Still it’s absolutely terrifying to think of how far out of its depth the current government is and that we are stuck with them through the worst of this

[Scorrie]

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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...3TV-SOs7CEvLOs

I think it may have been this study that forced the Governments hand yesterday...

[.Sean.]

What about those of us in the building trade who can’t work from home? Savings will only last so long when you’re on 90 quid a week statuary pay. Worrying times

[Scorrie]

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That's a very scary thought. We're only in the early days of restrictions and I'm starting to struggle already. I'm not sure how I'm going to cope if this lasts for several months.

Kept me awake in the night just trying to work out the ramifications of all this. I’m asthmatic and the thought of having to be isolated or socially distanced for 12 weeks does concern me. I do lots of exercise but even my five a side has been cancelled. At least I have a garden I suppose - it will look the best it’s ever looked this year...!

[EskbankHibby]

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I think it may have been this study that forced the Governments hand yesterday...

Yep

[Pretty Boy]

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What about those of us in the building trade who can’t work from home? Savings will only last so long when you’re on 90 quid a week statuary pay. Worrying times

I hope this is a wake up call for people and it encourages a bit support for small, local businesses both now and in the future.

The local pub that you never went to because a bottle of wine was cheaper in Asda, the restaurant you always meant to try but never made it, the bookshop you walked past because the same book was a pound cheaper on Amazon, the local spark you see getting in his van every morning etc etc. A lot of them won't exist in a few months time. There has been a use it or lose it campaign around the high Street, pubs, local trade for a while now but I think people downplayed how precarious the situation was. Maybe this will change people's attitudes.

Hopefully things play out OK for you in the weeks ahead. It's a worrying time.

[hibsbollah]

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I hope this is a wake up call for people and it encourages a bit support for small, local businesses both now and in the future.

The local pub that you never went to because a bottle of wine was cheaper in Asda, the restaurant you always meant to try but never made it, the bookshop you walked past because the same book was a pound cheaper on Amazon, the local spark you see getting in his van every morning etc etc. A lot of them won't exist in a few months time. There has been a use it or lose it campaign around the high Street, pubs, local trade for a while now but I think people downplayed how precarious the situation was. Maybe this will change people's attitudes.

Hopefully things play out OK for you in the weeks ahead. It's a worrying time.

Shop local.

[Colr]

Did Trump provide the title for this thread?

[Colr]

Working at home indefinitely now!!

[Colr]

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https://twitter.com/peterjukes/statu...523586048?s=21

Johnson has a vested interest in the insurance industry and his brexit mastermind pal Aaron banks, certainly explains his cowardly stance earlier.

If there are vast calls on insurance companies, they will need to liquidate substantial quantities of their assets quickly with a resultant market crash. They’ll need to take action to mitigate that with QE for example. That QE money may be best pumped directly to businesses, maybe.

[Bangkok Hibby]

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The past few days has made me actively start looking into re-training in a different sector altogether

I'm now desperately looking at my finances to see if I can retire.

[wpj]

Was admitted into hospital yesterday (not Coronavirus) in a "fit" ward but all five of us in the bay we are in are vulnerable. The staff are brilliant but hope to be discharged today, I can see how the virus could spread, visitors seem to walk in and out and touch everything. By the time i am discharged i may be advised to go home and stay there depending on the latest advice.
Would have been off anyway so not a problem maybe just the length of time a quarantine could be in force for.

[Carheenlea]

Every face I pass in the street looks strained and deep in thought. It’s unprecedented times and we are just looking for anything that can point to a positive and indication as to how things can get back to some kind of normality in a manageable way, but if this is just the beginning it leaves you feeling desperate.

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve lost all interest in what happens with this seasons outstanding fixtures and whether or not Hearts get relegated or not. Right now they are way down the list of worries.

[CallumLaidlaw]

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Every face I pass in the street looks strained and deep in thought. It’s unprecedented times and we are just looking for anything that can point to a positive and indication as to how things can get back to some kind of normality in a manageable way, but if this is just the beginning it leaves you feeling desperate.

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve lost all interest in what happens with this seasons outstanding fixtures and whether or not Hearts get relegated or not. Right now they are way down the list of worries.

Tbh, thinking about the football etc is the only thing stopping me from going insane.


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[calumhibee1]

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Every face I pass in the street looks strained and deep in thought. It’s unprecedented times and we are just looking for anything that can point to a positive and indication as to how things can get back to some kind of normality in a manageable way, but if this is just the beginning it leaves you feeling desperate.

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve lost all interest in what happens with this seasons outstanding fixtures and whether or not Hearts get relegated or not. Right now they are way down the list of worries.

I’m the same. I’ve hardly thought about football since it finished up.

[Captain Trips]

Please remember with all research and opinion:

"It is worth stressing this is all based on mathematical models. They make assumptions, they are not perfect and what they find is not written in stone. This virus emerged only in December and we're still trying to fully understand it. The scale and role of asymptomatic infections or the summer weather in the pandemic are still unknown."

Therefore the 250k death toll is total unproven conjecture. I understand the need to look at worst case scenario so if it turns out better its good but let's give the plan undertaken time to develop.

Every day this spreads is also a day we learn more about it and possible ways to deal with it. I think the UK is generally not bad when told to do stuff,the key thing is are we being told the right stuff.