The generic Hearts thread

[Kojock]

How many fixtures would a 14 team league create, bearing in mind the season might not start till September. Will it be play each other 3 times then split 7/7 or play each other twice then split 7/7. Or play each other twice.

[G B Young]

I'm with Chris Sutton on this:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...ating-21689781

[hibeerealist]

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No relegation from any of our leagues a more likely compromise?

Not going to happen the restructure argument has been raised virtually every year since Premiership was established, it has been shot down every time.

Additionally, clubs have next seasons ST ready for sale based on 12 team leagues.

Of course, Hertz and teams in similar positions all over the world, will hope & pray for a null & void season or restructure of leagues etc however, the only fair way (to the majority) is bring the season to an end NOW and current league positions apply. Cups - well the respective organisations will come up with a means of completing these competitions ONCE it is clear that football can restart (July/August hopefully but could be later).

[jacomo]

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I'm with Chris Sutton on this:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...ating-21689781

Hearts mythologise a tale of heroic sacrifice during WWI. I am sure they will be more than willing to fall on their swords now and show us all how magnificent they are.

Bye bye Hearts. Enjoy the championship.

[Jim44]

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Not going to happen the restructure argument has been raised virtually every year since Premiership was established, it has been shot down every time.

Additionally, clubs have next seasons ST ready for sale based on 12 team leagues.

Of course, Hertz and teams in similar positions all over the world, will hope & pray for a null & void season or restructure of leagues etc however, the only fair way (to the majority) is bring the season to an end NOW and current league positions apply. Cups - well the respective organisations will come up with a means of completing these competitions ONCE it is clear that football can restart (July/August hopefully but could be later).

The perennial debate on restructuring has been conducted in ‘normal’ circumstances. The present crisis is a completely different ball game and hard, unpopular decisions are going to have to be made. Traditional old firm monopoly might take a back seat for the foreseeable future.

[Ozyhibby]

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The perennial debate on restructuring has been conducted in ‘normal’ circumstances. The present crisis is a completely different ball game and hard, unpopular decisions are going to have to be made. Traditional old firm monopoly might take a back seat for the foreseeable future.

Dream on.


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[adhibs]

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No relegation from any of our leagues a more likely compromise?

On the names alone, no.

[GreenCastle]

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No relegation from any of our leagues a more likely compromise?

This would probably be the final straw for me with Scottish Football if they did this.

How can you change the structure with no prior plans to do so.

Fine do it in a years time (promote more) but this time to suit a few clubs would be a shambles.

[Since452]

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No relegation from any of our leagues a more likely compromise?

Nonsense idea. Why make things complicated when they could be very simple?

[The 90+2]

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The perennial debate on restructuring has been conducted in ‘normal’ circumstances. The present crisis is a completely different ball game and hard, unpopular decisions are going to have to be made. Traditional old firm monopoly might take a back seat for the foreseeable future.

And then the TV companies tell the league to take a run and jump and clubs go down the pan, just so hearts don’t get relegated?

[Peevemor]

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Nonsense idea. Why make things complicated when they could be very simple?

Exactly. And do we really need more teams in our top leagues?

[cocteautwin]

It all looks pretty clear cut to me. Celtic champions, Hearts relegated, D Utd promoted, abandon the play offs. Hearts aren’t getting relegated because of COVID-19, they are getting relegated because they are totally and utterly gash.

[hibeerealist]

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The perennial debate on restructuring has been conducted in ‘normal’ circumstances. The present crisis is a completely different ball game and hard, unpopular decisions are going to have to be made. Traditional old firm monopoly might take a back seat for the foreseeable future.

Would like to see a bigger SPL (16-18 teams) but it won't happen.

[EdinMike]

Apply Occam's Razor and be done with it.

[Since452]

With 8 games left, voiding the season would be shocking. Different if we'd only played 8 games.

Restarting the season? Well how long is a piece of string? Could be weeks/months before a restart at by which point players run the risk of injury because they haven't trained and contracts will have expired etc.

With 30+ games played we should be canceling the season now with average points calculated and voiding the Scottish Cup. There are more pressing matters than football right now.

Celtic, well done. Hearts, unlucky but tough cookies.

[Seveno]

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With 8 games left, voiding the season would be shocking. Different if we'd only played 8 games.

Restarting the season? Well how long is a piece of string? Could be weeks/months before a restart at by which point players run the risk of injury because they haven't trained and contracts will have expired etc.

With 30+ games played we should be canceling the season now with average points calculated and voiding the Scottish Cup. There are more pressing matters than football right now.

Celtic, well done. Hearts, unlucky but tough cookies.

I don’t see any reason to void the Cup. It should be easy to fit in three matches before December.

[The 90+2]

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Would like to see a bigger SPL (16-18 teams) but it won't happen.

Clubs like Livingston, Killie, Hamilton, Motherwell most certainly want that neither will tv companies or the bigots.

[The 90+2]

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I don’t see any reason to void the Cup. It should be easy to fit in three matches before December.

Initially I thought this too. There would be complications such as players registrations/cup tied/suspensions to take into consideration though. If we sign players for next season could they play? What if we lose Rocky and Bogdan and bring in St Mirren/Killie keeper would he be suspended? Celtic sign Cosvrove in the summer and he plays in last years semi for Celtic against the sheep? I think it would just be cancelled, saying that money talks.

[Newry Hibs]

I see Tyneastle features on Dr Who ....

[Gloucester Hibs]

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I see Tyneastle features on Dr Who ....

[The 90+2]

How long until Budge can’t leave the house for months anyway? I’m sure that will be more of a concern to her at this moment in time. At 72, she won’t have a choice.

[Seveno]

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Initially I thought this too. There would be complications such as players registrations/cup tied/suspensions to take into consideration though. If we sign players for next season could they play? What if we lose Rocky and Bogdan and bring in St Mirren/Killie keeper would he be suspended? Celtic sign Cosvrove in the summer and he plays in last years semi for Celtic against the sheep? I think it would just be cancelled, saying that money talks.

My only concern would be if it was won by a team from the Championship for the second time in five years!

[CentreLine]

Whatever solution they come to will have to stand the test of time. This Coronavirus, or another strain of SARS, is going to come around again, quite probably next year. That is if it goes away in the summer at all. If the football authorities decided to have no relegation this year and we then saw, lets say, three or four further years of SARS that caused the season to be stopped, we could end up with 18 or 20 teams in the top league. Would that be a bad thing? I suppose it depends on your stand on league reorganisation I suppose.

[G B Young]

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I don’t see any reason to void the Cup. It should be easy to fit in three matches before December.

In the midst of a different season with most likely different players or even managers involved (assuming we get next season under way)? Bizarre in the extreme and simply not necessary. This is an uprecedented situation and getting the Scottish Cup finished is really of little consequence.

[jgl07]

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I see Tyneastle features on Dr Who ....

I always thought Tynecastle was like a Tardis (or rather a Turdis) in that it was bigger on the inside than the outside.

To any external observer it is a 19,000 seat unfinished stadium. To the Jambos inside it 20,000+ and has the finest stand in the history of Scottish football with a view of the castle.

[GreenCastle]

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How long until Budge can’t leave the house for months anyway? I’m sure that will be more of a concern to her at this moment in time. At 72, she won’t have a choice.

Interesting point.

[Deansy]

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I think the decision will be taken early as some teams especially Hearts are likely to launch some sort of legal challenge against the decision but if the league believes their rules have them covered they’ll go for it early to get any challenge dismissed so the new season can commence in good time.

Just my thinking though.

I can already picture the scene in court at the Jambos appeal -

Judge - 'so your team was at the bottom of the league because they were ***** ?'

Budgie - But, but your honour'

Judge - 'and they had indeed been ***** for a whole calendar-year'

Budgie - 'but your honour, we're big and we're also famous AND we have 400,000 supporters !'

Judge - 'and despite being ***** you want this court to believe that because you're big, famous and have 400,000 supporters, you'd somehow have turned things around and won enough points to stay in the SPL had the season been allowed to continue ?'

Budgie - 'yes your worship'

Judge - 'Appeal dismissed with huge amount of scorn and disbelief and an order given that all associated with this midden of a club to immediately undergo pyschiatric-assessment !' !

[Keith_M]

Probably been mentioned already but...


Banderson saying Hearts will take legal action if the season is finished early and Hearts are relegated.


Curiously enough, there's no quotes from anybody at Hearts.

[Mikey]

[jacomo]

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Probably been mentioned already but...


Banderson saying Hearts will take legal action if the season is finished early and Hearts are relegated.


Curiously enough, there's no quotes from anybody at Hearts.

Banderson has probably been ordered to float the idea and guage what the response is.

Legal action may make the Hearts famous. As the whole world will be laughing at them.