The Sportscene Thread

[ZAGREB RED]

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Russian team when Souness was manager.

Think they did it after Red Star Belgrade destroyed them in the first leg of a European Cup tie in the season Red Star won it.
The story was they made the pitch smaller to stop Red Star giving them another doing on the big pitch.

[Northernhibee]

The red card given to Hamilton yesterday is an absolute joke; he chests it down but it hits his arm on the way down. Clearly not intentional.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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The red card given to Hamilton yesterday is an absolute joke; he chests it down but it hits his arm on the way down. Clearly not intentional.

I can’t understand how it’s a straight red?

[lapsedhibee]

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I can’t understand how it’s a straight red?

It's a red for the same sort of reason that it was a two-point penalty for fielding an ineligible player in the League Cup rather than a three-point penalty.

[Northernhibee]

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I can’t understand how it’s a straight red?

Only thought would be that the ref thought it was a deliberate handball stopping a clear goalscoring opportunity but a) it blatantly wasn't deliberate and b) it blatantly wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity.

[vuefrom1875]

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Instead of Mikey Stewart on Sportscene the BBC has booked eaveryone's favourite racist and misogynist Malky Mackay. Importantly though he's never said anything about Jim Traynor.

This is really ridiculous from the BBC now. Not sure where I heard it from but I thought he it was meant to be a 5 day suspension? Now they are getting bigoted relics like Mackay in instead?

Absolute joke by the BBC WEGGIE....bin Michael Stewart, for saying that everyone thinks, and bring in a racist who's been cold shoulderd by most media tv outlets .(And clubs)...Cound'nt make it up..still happy enough to be employed by the S.F.A....
..beggars belief.

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Really disgusting that Mikey Stewart is deemed less acceptable than this racist cretin mackay

[FilipinoHibs]

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I can’t understand how it’s a straight red?

Any handling whether intentional or not is a foul or penalty if in the the box. So an offence. The offence was deemed to have stopped a goal scoring opportunity so a red.

[Tyler Durden]

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Any handling whether intentional or not is a foul or penalty if in the the box. So an offence. The offence was deemed to have stopped a goal scoring opportunity so a red.

Your first sentence is incorrect. Any handball which leads to a goal, whether intentional or not is now a foul. A handball by a defending team still needs to be deliberate.

The box is irrelevant and this Hamilton example wasn’t in the box anyway.

Shocker of a decision but not surprised from Clancy

[worcesterhibby]

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Your first sentence is incorrect. Any handball which leads to a goal, whether intentional or not is now a foul. A handball by a defending team still needs to be deliberate.

The box is irrelevant and this Hamilton example wasn’t in the box anyway.

Shocker of a decision but not surprised from Clancy

correct. We now have the weird situation where the handball rule is different for defenders and attackers. So if the ball is booted at point blank range inside the box then scuffs the arm of another attacker and goes in, its s foul not a goal. However if it’s hit from point blank range, thumps off a defenders hand, thus stopping a certain goal, it’s not a penalty. Modern football is weird.

Of course Scottish referees don’t seem to realise the laws have changed.

[Joe6-2]

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correct. We now have the weird situation where the handball rule is different for defenders and attackers. So if the ball is booted at point blank range inside the box then scuffs the arm of another attacker and goes in, its s foul not a goal. However if it’s hit from point blank range, thumps off a defenders hand, thus stopping a certain goal, it’s not a penalty. Modern football is weird.

Of course Scottish referees don’t seem to realise the laws have changed.

Oh they realise ok, but choose to implement laws in their own way, as usual

[FilipinoHibs]

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Your first sentence is incorrect. Any handball which leads to a goal, whether intentional or not is now a foul. A handball by a defending team still needs to be deliberate.

The box is irrelevant and this Hamilton example wasn’t in the box anyway.

Shocker of a decision but not surprised from Clancy

Yes you are right on the rule change. But if you look at the replays of the incident, one hand is above the shoulder at one point and I think the referee's view is that the hands and arms where being used to bring the ball under control and gain pocession. If that is his view then, not saying it is the correct reading of the situation, it has to be a red as the foul is stopping a good goal scoring situation.

[davym7062]

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I can’t understand how it’s a straight red?

coz he had Naismith telling him it was

[Danderhall Hibs]

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I don’t know if they’ve even made reference to MS since his comments a week past Monday. Very poor stuff.

That’s poor - not even a mention of it that I’ve seen.

[Carheenlea]

They welcome a homophobic, sexist racist on to Sportscene, but they’ll draw the line at any robust opinion on Jim Traynor.

If Michael Stewart had made reference to Chinkys, gays & Jews and cracked a side splitter about a Black Monopoly game then he’d probably still be broadcasting.

[bigwheel]

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They welcome a homophobic, sexist racist on to Sportscene, but they’ll draw the line at any robust opinion on Jim Traynor.

If Michael Stewart had made reference to Chinkys, gays & Jews and cracked a side splitter about a Black Monopoly game then he’d probably still be broadcasting.

Don’t you think Mackay has served his punishment?? shown severe attrition and deserves to get on with his career ? He has done lots of work on diversity and inclusion since those awful texts..

We all make mistakes...but we all can learn and change too


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[hibby rae]

Malky Mackay on Sportscene: Joe Lewis is the Celtic keeper, Sean Clare is called Daryl Clare and the Hibs game was on Saturday

He's also a bigot.

Some good content on Old Firm Facts though.

[hibby rae]

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Don’t you think Mackay has served his punishment?? shown severe attrition and deserves to get on with his career ? He has done lots of work on diversity and inclusion since those awful texts..

We all make mistakes...but we all can learn and change too


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I'm not sure he has actually. Hasn't shown any remorse.

A man of his age and stature in the 21st century. Surely he should have known by that point he was wrong.

[hibsbollah]

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Don’t you think Mackay has served his punishment?? shown severe attrition and deserves to get on with his career ? He has done lots of work on diversity and inclusion since those awful texts..

We all make mistakes...but we all can learn and change too


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The point is, hes not just 'served his punishment' he's been erected up to the very pinnacle of football coaching in this country. If the SFA wanted to show they wanted to retain backward nasty wee attitudes in their *****y organisation they couldnt have appointed a better performance director.

I had the misfortune to listen to him on the scottish coaching podcast recently, where he was treated like some kind of svengali Cruyff like figure, and he had literally nothing interesting to say.

[bigwheel]

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The point is, hes not just 'served his punishment' he's been erected up to the very pinnacle of football coaching in this country. If the SFA wanted to show they wanted to retain backward nasty wee attitudes in their *****y organisation they couldnt have appointed a better performance director.

I had the misfortune to listen to him on the scottish coaching podcast recently, where he was treated like some kind of svengali Cruyff like figure, and he had literally nothing interesting to say.

Not going to comment on his technical views ...but I feel this continual pillorying of people who have made mistakes is a horrible part of life and social media today ..he actually lost his job over it..and has since done lots of related education and charity related work on the topic ....

People tend to not let these things go - as if no one learns by their mistakes ..That is very unhealthy .

[hibby rae]

[QUOTE=bigwheel;6087787]Not going to comment on his technical views ...but I feel this continual pillorying of people who have made mistakes is a horrible part of life and social media today ..he actually lost his job over it..and has since done lots of related education and charity related work on the topic ....

People tend to not let these things go - as if no one learns by their mistakes ..That is very unhealthy .[/QUOTE

'Upon being appointed SFA Performance Director, Mackay said: "I apologised publicly and privately for the three texts to the two gentleman I spoke about. Then, for the last three years, I've been involved in diversity and equality meetings and been on an education to a point where I know more about it than anybody in this room." Does that suggest growth and contrition to you?


Or, does it scan like the defensive response of a man who wants to change the subject? He's "been on an education to a point where I know more about it than anybody in this room"? Congratulations. You had to be sent on a course to learn not to say things that everyone in the room already knew not to say. Well done on catching up with the rest of us. It's not something you lord over people.'

[Carheenlea]

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Not going to comment on his technical views ...but I feel this continual pillorying of people who have made mistakes is a horrible part of life and social media today ..he actually lost his job over it..and has since done lots of related education and charity related work on the topic ....

People tend to not let these things go - as if no one learns by their mistakes ..That is very unhealthy .

If racism is to be tackled seriously, there needs to be zero tolerance.

[bigwheel]

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If racism is to be tackled seriously, there needs to be zero tolerance.

What does that mean ? you are never allowed to work again ?

[hibees 7062]

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Malky Mackay on Sportscene: Joe Lewis is the Celtic keeper, Sean Clare is called Daryl Clare and the Hibs game was on Saturday

He's also a bigot.

Some good content on Old Firm Facts though.

He also said Docherty will do well in his next 3-4 years at Hibs

[Danderhall Hibs]

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He also said Docherty will do well in his next 3-4 years at Hibs

You’ve misquoted him.

He said he needs to (or he hopes) he has a good couple of years at Hibs.

[Sammy7nil]

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If racism is to be tackled seriously, there needs to be zero tolerance.

What does that mean? We try to rehabilitate murders but draw the line at racism?

[BILLYHIBS]

Speaking at the end of HIBS v Livingston

Efe has been AWOL

You don’t say?

Steven Thomson and Neil McCann both think he will be a good signing for Livvy

Both bigging up the big Scottish Cup tie coming up on Friday versus ICT

Live on BBC Scotland

Still no sign of Michael Stewart

Efe in Thomson’s Team of the Week?

[Northernhibee]

Kamberi's goal was a screamer - but what annoys me is I can't remember the last time he put in the same effort in a Hibs shirt.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Kamberi's goal was a screamer - but what annoys me is I can't remember the last time he put in the same effort in a Hibs shirt.

What was the game when there was a scout in the stand watching him?

[BILLYHIBS]

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What was the game when there was a scout in the stand watching him?

Dundee United away?