Conner Duthie 2 year ban

[Anthony Soprano]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...fences-1393137

Tested positive for cannabis therefore has been banned from all sport for 2 years.

Harsh imo, not as if it's a performance enhancer, I understand footballers need to be held to certain standards but it's only a bit green ffs, a lesser punishment would of been more suitable.

Drug laws in this country need looked at.

[Vault Boy]

A stupidly disproportionate punishment for a completely benign offence. Absolutely absurd.

[Hermit Crab]

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...fences-1393137

Tested positive for cannabis therefore has been banned from all sport for 2 years.

Harsh imo, not as if it's a performance enhancer, I understand footballers need to be held to certain standards but it's only a bit green ffs, a lesser punishment would of been more suitable.

Drug laws in this country need looked at.

Its an illegal drug. Kids look up to sports men and women for inspiration. He knew what he was doing.

Drug laws don't need looked at. If its illegal don't do it simple as that, especially if your career depends on you being drug free.

[Hibbyradge]

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Its an illegal drug. Kids look up to sports men and women for inspiration. He knew what he was doing.

Drug laws don't need looked at. If its illegal don't do it simple as that, especially if your career depends on you being drug free.

That's a bit unsympathetic.

Is he related to Lewis Stevenson or something? 😜

[Vault Boy]

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Its an illegal drug. Kids look up to sports men and women for inspiration. He knew what he was doing.

Drug laws don't need looked at. If its illegal don't do it simple as that, especially if your career depends on you being drug free.

The law doesn't need to be looked at, because it's illegal? That makes absolutely zero sense.

When something which is less damaging to a person's health than alcohol, cigarettes, sugar and red meat is illegal, there's clearly questions to be asked.

Passively accepting something as righteously true just because it's currently enshrined in law would have us still living in a country where only landlords could vote.

The guy has fallen victim to a deeply unfair element of our justice system. 2 year ban is unbelievably harsh.

[Peevemor]

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Its an illegal drug. Kids look up to sports men and women for inspiration. He knew what he was doing.

Drug laws don't need looked at. If its illegal don't do it simple as that, especially if your career depends on you being drug free.

I agree. The majority of the population get by without taking cannabis - I've no sympathy for someone who knows the potential consequences but decides to take it anyway.

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That's a bit unsympathetic.

Is he related to Lewis Stevenson or something? 😜

Ok, maybe a tad. In my line of work we get random med screens for drugs and alcohol and if you're caught with illegal drugs in your system its instant dismissal, thats drummed into us from the first day. Same for footballers, pilots armed forces etc. If you do it, you take the chance of losing your career and sadly he's been caught out.

[Anthony Soprano]

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Its an illegal drug. Kids look up to sports men and women for inspiration. He knew what he was doing.

Drug laws don't need looked at. If its illegal don't do it simple as that, especially if your career depends on you being drug free.

Awwwwww mon now

Alcohol and tobacco are both drugs that kill thousands up and down this country every year, both are completely legal and readily available from shops.

Cannabis has never killed anyone. Yet is illegal in this country.

Had Conner been caught drunk smoking a 20 deck of L&B, he might of got the sack but he wouldn't of been banned.

Regardless of your personal opinion on recreational drug use, you can't seriously tell me that's not ridiculous.

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The law doesn't need to be looked at, because it's illegal? That makes absolutely zero sense.

When something which is less damaging to a person's health than alcohol, cigarettes, sugar and red meat is illegal, there's clearly questions to be asked.

Passively accepting something as righteously true just because it's the currently enshrined in law would have us still living in a country where only landlords could vote.

The guy has fallen victim to a deeply unfair element of our justice system. 2 year ban is unbelievably harsh.

Legalising cannabis wouldn't help him though would it. Footballers would still be banned from taking it. As would anyone in a safety critical position at their work.

[calumhibee1]

Not surprised at this news in the slightest. Guys a bit of a tit from my admittedly limited experience of meeting him. Him and all his pals were blazed then as well.

[KingPat4]

Harsh

Its 2020, not 1970.

[Pretty Boy]

Random testing is few and far between in Scottish football. I wonder if someone had grassed him (if you'll pardon the pun).

The legal status of cannabis will change before the decade is out. Of course, much like alcohol, it will still be prohibited in some workplaces. It seems a totally over the top ban for something that will have little positive impact on performance.

[The 90+2]

2 year ban is outrageous. They’ve basically ended his footballing career.

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Awwwwww mon now

Alcohol and tobacco are both drugs that kill thousands up and down this country every year, both are completely legal and readily available from shops.

Cannabis has never killed anyone. Yet is illegal in this country.

Had Conner been caught drunk smoking a 20 deck of L&B, he might of got the sack but he wouldn't of been banned.

Regardless of your personal opinion on recreational drug use, you can't seriously tell me that's not ridiculous.

No but there has been deaths caused by drivers under the influence on Cannabis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-cyclist.html

[Vault Boy]

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Legalising cannabis wouldn't help him though would it. Footballers would still be banned from taking it. As would anyone in a safety critical position at their work.

You said the law doesn't need to be looked at though.

I don't know how you're certain about footballers being banned from it either. It'd be discouraged for athletes to engage in recreational drug use, but they don't get banned for drinking or smoking, so why would they be banned for cannabis if that was legal too? It's not like he rocked up on a match day blazed off his nut.

[Vault Boy]

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No but there has been deaths caused by drivers under the influence on Cannabis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-cyclist.html

You link to a daily mail article in which somebody who was also on cocaine tragically killed somebody.

Sleep deprived drivers kill more people than people high on weed, this is a nothing point.

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You said the law doesn't need to be looked at though.

I don't know how you're certain about footballers being banned from it either. It'd be discouraged for athletes to engage in recreational drug use, but they don't get banned for drinking or smoking, so why would they be banned for cannabis if that was legal too? It's not like he rocked up on a match day blazed off his nut.

If it was allowed and footballers were to use it regularly it would influence the results of games imo, reactions become slower and make you tired and hungry.

[Peevemor]

The ruling can be read here.

https://www.ukad.org.uk/sites/defaul...20Decision.pdf

The rules state 2 years minimum.

Sorry, but he knew the risk.

[MrRobot]

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Ok, maybe a tad. In my line of work we get random med screens for drugs and alcohol and if you're caught with illegal drugs in your system its instant dismissal, thats drummed into us from the first day. Same for footballers, pilots armed forces etc. If you do it, you take the chance of losing your career and sadly he's been caught out.

Weed is known to take longer to get out of your system than other drugs (up to 28 days), what would be the position if you had taken a recent trip to say Amsterdam, where the consumption is legal, and then returned only to be tested?

2 years for smoking is extremely harsh IMO; Adrian Mutu only got 9 months for taking coke and that is far worse.

[Vault Boy]

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If it was allowed and footballers were to use it regularly it would influence the results of games imo, reactions become slower and make you tired and hungry.

HC the same could be said of footballers who drink, smoke or overeat regularly too. I think you're way off the mark here. Duthie's ban is a red flag for a much wider problem with our criminalisation of cannabis. It's an extremely disproportionate ban.

[Smartie]

On the face of it this is ridiculous, but cannabis metabolites stay in the body for ages and that has been known for some time.

He'll have known about the potential consequences of his actions and how long he'd be likely to run the risk of getting caught out with something in his system.

I have less sympathy for someone who knows about the consequences of an action - however benign that action is - who goes on to suffer the consequences than an entirely innocent party.

Having said that, I know some people who are in quite ridiculously responsible positions who you would not want to have impaired judgment who happily use cannabis regularly without any negative impact (they would argue it has a positive impact).

[The 90+2]

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The ruling can be read here.

https://www.ukad.org.uk/sites/defaul...20Decision.pdf

The rules state 2 years minimum.

Sorry, but he knew the risk.

How did Berahino only get 8 weeks for taking MDMA?

[Peevemor]

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Weed is known to take longer to get out of your system once inhaled (up to 28 day), what would be the position if you had taken a recent trip to say Amsterdam, where the consumption is legal, and then returned only to be tested?

2 years for smoking is extremely harsh IMO; Adrian Mutu only got 9 months for taking coke and that is far worse.

There's no problem with taking it outwith the sport, only if it's still in your system when tested after a match.

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Its an illegal drug. Kids look up to sports men and women for inspiration. He knew what he was doing.

Drug laws don't need looked at. If its illegal don't do it simple as that, especially if your career depends on you being drug free.

Its a bit of weed ffs!

[lord bunberry]

I’ve never understood these bans from sport. I understand if something is enhancing performance, but what’s the point in banning someone from sport if they’ve not cheated. I get that it’s illegal in this country, but in many countries it’s not.

[Hibee87]

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Weed is known to take longer to get out of your system than other drugs (up to 28 days), what would be the position if you had taken a recent trip to say Amsterdam, where the consumption is legal, and then returned only to be tested?

2 years for smoking is extremely harsh IMO; Adrian Mutu only got 9 months for taking coke and that is far worse.

You would still get the sack as far as I'm aware.
When testing was brought in at my place of work, that was asked and response was doesn't matter, it is illegal here. Also it's not technically legal in Amsterdam, bit if a grey area of the law wording but it's pretty much tolerated/accepted but illegal to produce or somthing, go figure eh.

[MrRobot]

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There's no problem with taking it outwith the sport, only if it's still in your system when tested after a match.

Seems crazy considering you could take coke quite regularly and have it out your system by match day, whereas weed lingers for longer and would have absolutely no impact on your performance weeks later.

[Northernhibee]

Same length of ban as Jamie Insall. The prescident is there, he can't have not known that it's not an illegal drug.

He took the risk and it's already been established that it would lead to a 2yr ban if caught.

Severe, but certainly not unfair.

[bingo70]

What ban did Rio Ferdinand get when he refused to do a drug test?

[Groathillgrump]

A two year ban does seem really over the top but, as others have said, he must've known the rules. Silly laddie.