Tories are lying *******s (warning may contain traces of Tory)

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/mrmichaelspicer/...738137600?s=21

Priti Patel at her very best.


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[lapsedhibee]

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https://twitter.com/mrmichaelspicer/...738137600?s=21

Priti Patel at her very best.

It's logical.
If folk in Norwich stairs shouldn't have to speak in English, why should Government Ministers?

[Hibby Bairn]

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https://twitter.com/mrmichaelspicer/...738137600?s=21

Priti Patel at her very best.


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Very funny. I’ve watched a few of his videos. Brilliant satire.

[Ozyhibby]

Turns out that not a single journalist from a Scottish newspaper was allowed into the PM’s briefing yesterday.



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[Ozyhibby]

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[Kato]

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I struggle to believe that many of these social media posts are from real people. I'm astonished that no one has sought to act to stop fake Twitter (in particular) accounts posting supportive comments - on all sides of every debate. There surely can't be that many idiots around. Can there?

25% of English voters trust any political message if its delivered with a posh accent. There 10-12 million thickos right there.

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[Ozyhibby]

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[Radium]

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Is anyone surprised that this is happening? Right wing press almost a huge propoganda machine for the Tories. Little challenge to anything said by them, complete character assassination of Corbyn, Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil, Pearce Morgan etc. They have been allowed to ride roughshod over thruth and facts by these people and now clearly believe that they can just ban anyone who won't play their game. Dictatorship in the making due to the huge majority and utter arrogance throughout that party

Piers Morgan is no role model but on this he is challenging BJ.



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[lapsedhibee]

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Piers Morgan is no role model but on this he is challenging BJ.

No good Andrew Neil on his own, Piers Morgan on his own, calling out Johnson for his scrutiny-avoiding. The whole MSM, including Kuenssberg, the Mail and Telegraph have to do it, relentlessly, for it to have any chance of success.

[Mr Grieves]

That's the Scottish tories saviour, Ruth Davidson, off to the unelected Lords.

[Ozyhibby]

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That's the Scottish tories saviour, Ruth Davidson, off to the unelected Lords.

She’ll be Secretary of State for Scotland before you know it. Democracy is on the ropes in Scotland.


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[JeMeSouviens]

The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant?

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days?

[Kato]

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The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant?

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days?

No danger of the bridge being built. It's an online exercise to get the phrases "Boris Johnson" and "building bridges" into Googles' search logarithm.

That doesn't mean he won't shift millions of pounds of public cash into the consultants' bank accounts.

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[Ozyhibby]

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The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant?

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days?

I actually love the idea. I know it would never pass any kind of cost benefit analysis but neither would HS2. In fact half the railways in Britain would never have been built if modern risk assessment methods had applied.
There are obviously massive technical aspects to be overcome but we never used to shy away from such challenges. Being able to get a train from Edinburgh to Dublin or Belfast in a few hours has massive appeal though. On the whole, very few societies ever regret building a bridge.


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[The_Exile]

The topography of the seabed and it's considerable depth (almost twice as deep as the English channel) make it a ridiculous idea that would cost a jaw-dropping amount of money to make possible. Not to mention the small matter of over a million tons of munitions dumped in Beaufort Dyke.

[Ozyhibby]

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The topography of the seabed and it's considerable depth (almost twice as deep as the English channel) make it a ridiculous idea that would cost a jaw-dropping amount of money to make possible. Not to mention the small matter of over a million tons of munitions dumped in Beaufort Dyke.

It doesn’t have to go across Beaufort dyke if another route is taken.


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[The_Exile]

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It doesn’t have to go across Beaufort dyke if another route is taken.


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Do you mean down through Tarbert and past Campbeltown? I'm not super familiar with that area but I know it's not flat and is fairly hilly. Again, that would cost an absolute fortune to get the infrastructure in place in this kind of terrain. I just can't ever see it happening due to cost and intense complications the entire project would inevitably contain.

[Ozyhibby]

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Do you mean down through Tarbert and past Campbeltown? I'm not super familiar with that area but I know it's not flat and is fairly hilly. Again, that would cost an absolute fortune to get the infrastructure in place in this kind of terrain. I just can't ever see it happening due to cost and intense complications the entire project would inevitably contain.

I saw an article once that suggested three bridges crossing to Arran, Campbeltown and then over to NI. No idea how complex all this would be.


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[JeMeSouviens]

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Do you mean down through Tarbert and past Campbeltown? I'm not super familiar with that area but I know it's not flat and is fairly hilly. Again, that would cost an absolute fortune to get the infrastructure in place in this kind of terrain. I just can't ever see it happening due to cost and intense complications the entire project would inevitably contain.

Campbeltown is about a 3 hour drive from Glasgow (even on the rare occasions the A83 isn't closed by landslides at the rest and be thankful) so that would be a total non-starter.

[One Day Soon]

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I actually love the idea. I know it would never pass any kind of cost benefit analysis but neither would HS2. In fact half the railways in Britain would never have been built if modern risk assessment methods had applied.
There are obviously massive technical aspects to be overcome but we never used to shy away from such challenges. Being able to get a train from Edinburgh to Dublin or Belfast in a few hours has massive appeal though. On the whole, very few societies ever regret building a bridge.


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I think that's generally true. However if I was looking to bind the UK together with infrastructural glue I'd start with an immediate commitment to extend HS2 to Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen.

[Ozyhibby]

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Campbeltown is about a 3 hour drive from Glasgow (even on the rare occasions the A83 isn't closed by landslides at the rest and be thankful) so that would be a total non-starter.

Yip, I think that route would be a definite non starter.


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[Mr Grieves]

Boris Johnson has a crap record when it comes to building bridges.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-en...mpression=true


It's never going to happen.

[CloudSquall]

It would be highly amusing if the UK paid for a bridge that would eventually link a united Ireland with an independent Scotland.

[Radium]

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The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant?

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days?

Straight over to Belfast, over the trench we dumped a million tons of munitions (Beaufords Dyke) in, or island hopping from Greenock, down the Kintyre peninsular and over ?



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[Ozyhibby]

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Straight over to Belfast, over the trench we dumped a million tons of munitions (Beaufords Dyke) in, or island hopping from Greenock, down the Kintyre peninsular and over ?



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I think once engineers say this is possible it will then become a political decision. The cost will be ignored by Johnson as it’s not his money and what price saving the union anyway.


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[Smartie]

I’ve never Before noticed how close that part of Scotland is to Ireland.

[JeMeSouviens]

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I’ve never Before noticed how close that part of Scotland is to Ireland.

It's only about 10 miles from the Mull of Kintyre to the Antrim coast, it looks quite close. There was briefly a car ferry from Campbeltown but it never really took off.

[Dan Sarf]

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It's only about 10 miles from the Mull of Kintyre to the Antrim coast, it looks quite close. There was briefly a car ferry from Campbeltown but it never really took off.

Just as well!






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[Hibrandenburg]

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I’ve never Before noticed how close that part of Scotland is to Ireland.

On a clear day you can easily see the mainland across the water.

[Just Alf]

That'll be the deficit for a possible future indy Scotland through the roof then!





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