Tories are lying *******s (warning may contain traces of Tory)

[murray26]

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Sign and pass it on - https://www.change.org/p/uk-governme...g-a-knighthood.

Done.. repugnant man..

[Cataplana]

I've always wondered how much IDS saved for the country following his benefit reforms.

On one hand we have a reduction in people entitled to benefit (a reduction I believe was not that great, because it turned out the majority of those claiming were entitled to what they were getting.)

On the other hand there is the amount shelled out to Atos, and Crapita, to deliver an assessment system that wasn't fit for purpose.

If Labour had been any use at all they could have exploited that.

[Andy Bee]

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I've always wondered how much IDS saved for the country following his benefit reforms.

On one hand we have a reduction in people entitled to benefit (a reduction I believe was not that great, because it turned out the majority of those claiming were entitled to what they were getting.)

On the other hand there is the amount shelled out to Atos, and Crapita, to deliver an assessment system that wasn't fit for purpose.

If Labour had been any use at all they could have exploited that.

If you consider the amount of appeals that resulted in overturning the initial decisions and rightly so I'd wager he actually cost the country, not to mention the stress and anxiety he caused, he's not fit for purpose, the thought of him getting a knighthood beggars belief, odious little cretin.

[matty_f]

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If you consider the amount of appeals that resulted in overturning the initial decisions and rightly so I'd wager he actually cost the country, not to mention the stress and anxiety he caused, he's not fit for purpose, the thought of him getting a knighthood beggars belief, odious little cretin.

It's disgusting, he's caused loads of suffering to loads of people. He's utterly without compassion, as Tory as Tory can be.

[Bristolhibby]

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It's disgusting, he's caused loads of suffering to loads of people. He's utterly without compassion, as Tory as Tory can be.

Peak Tory.

Also giving him a Knighthood is a Peak Tory act.

They just don’t give a **** what people think.

J

[Hibrandenburg]

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Peak Tory.

Also giving him a Knighthood is a Peak Tory act.

They just don’t give a **** what people think.

J

People obviously approve, otherwise they wouldn't keep voting them in and that's what I can't get my head around.

[Cataplana]

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People obviously approve, otherwise they wouldn't keep voting them in and that's what I can't get my head around.

"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision."

Bertrand Russell

If you are too stupid to understand that you constantly get it wrong, you will find it easy to keep repeating the mistake. Stupid people think they are geniuses.

[Colr]

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"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision."

Bertrand Russell

If you are too stupid to understand that you constantly get it wrong, you will find it easy to keep repeating the mistake. Stupid people think they are geniuses.

This is a great comfort to those of us who are racked with self doubt!!

[Bangkok Hibby]

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People obviously approve, otherwise they wouldn't keep voting them in and that's what I can't get my head around.

This in a nutshell is my major problem with the UK. Awash with selfish, right wing leaning, unfeeling, insular, gullible twats who can't see past the latest xenophobic headline in the Mail.

[lapsedhibee]

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This in a nutshell is my major problem with the UK. Awash with selfish, right wing leaning, unfeeling, insular, gullible twats who can't see past the latest xenophobic headline in the Mail.

Not sure what you mean.

[Bangkok Hibby]

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Not sure what you mean.

Haha, crazy old bat but something lovely about her too. 😄

[Cataplana]

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This is a great comfort to those of us who are racked with self doubt!!

I'm not so sure about that.

[Moulin Yarns]

Not a post about tory lies but highlights the failure of tory policies.


https://www.disabilitynewsservice.co...of-dwp-deaths/

[Moulin Yarns]

This has to be a tory lie.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51298820

[lapsedhibee]

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This has to be a tory lie.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51298820

Marxists!

[Mibbes Aye]

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This has to be a tory lie.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51298820

I am no more a Tory than you are but they do seem to be genuinely nationalising the service.

Through the looking glass etc etc but also a hallmark reminder that when you are in power, ideology submits to pragmatism.

[Callum_62]

How many times have we heard austerity is over in the past 6 months?

Turns out, no it isnae

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...mpression=true

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[RyeSloan]

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How many times have we heard austerity is over in the past 6 months?

Turns out, no it isnae

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...mpression=true

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Or the government is checking what it is spending your money on and wants to make sure it’s being spent in the best way.

Depends on how you want to spin it I suppose.

But on the face of it it’s not really a ridiculous concept for a new government to review what its departments are spending to see if some of that current spending can be reassigned to their new priorities.

The alternative is they just lump more spending on top of current spending without challenging what that is.

[weecounty hibby]

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Or the government is checking what it is spending your money on and wants to make sure it’s being spent in the best way.

Depends on how you want to spin it I suppose.

But on the face of it it’s not really a ridiculous concept for a new government to review what its departments are spending to see if some of that current spending can be reassigned to their new priorities.

The alternative is they just lump more spending on top of current spending without challenging what that is.

Not really a new government though is it. They have been in power for a decade now sadly. Austerity for all, except ****ers like Rees Mogg who have their businesses registered in tax havens.

[Ozyhibby]

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I am no more a Tory than you are but they do seem to be genuinely nationalising the service.

Through the looking glass etc etc but also a hallmark reminder that when you are in power, ideology submits to pragmatism.

When the railways were nationalised before they were terrible and nobody used them. If they are just going to nationalise then then I think it’s a mistake. I don’t think that’s what they will be doing long term though.
I think they might get rid of the franchise system and have a more competitive set up with different companies running different services.


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[Just Alf]

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Not really a new government though is it. They have been in power for a decade now sadly. Austerity for all, except ****ers like Rees Mogg who have their businesses registered in tax havens.

And because of Brexit he will still not have to pay millions in tax.


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[Ozyhibby]

Johnson now wants to hand pick his own journalists.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...mpression=true

This is how dictatorships start.


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[grunt]

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But on the face of it it’s not really a ridiculous concept for a new government to review what its departments are spending to see if some of that current spending can be reassigned to their new priorities.

The lying Tories have been in power in the UK Government since 2010. You'd have thought they'd know what they spent our money on by now? I'm afraid your post seems to have bought the Johnson lie that this is now a "new" Government, trying to put right all the terrible injustices done by the previous Government. It's a lie, but it seems to have some traction.

[weecounty hibby]

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The lying Tories have been in power in the UK Government since 2010. You'd have thought they'd know what they spent our money on by now? I'm afraid your post seems to have bought the Johnson lie that this is now a "new" Government, trying to put right all the terrible injustices done by the previous Government. It's a lie, but it seems to have some traction.

There are it seems some lies that are ok to be believed

[Pretty Boy]

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Johnson now wants to hand pick his own journalists.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...mpression=true

This is how dictatorships start.


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I was just about to post this. It's quite scary, even more so when you read people on social media praising him for showing 'tough leadership' and 'real strength'. Whilst the journalists excluded seem to have been from the more left leaning press it's heartening to see their peers from the likes of the Telegraph and the Mail boycott in support.

[weecounty hibby]

Is anyone surprised that this is happening? Right wing press almost a huge propoganda machine for the Tories. Little challenge to anything said by them, complete character assassination of Corbyn, Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil, Pearce Morgan etc. They have been allowed to ride roughshod over thruth and facts by these people and now clearly believe that they can just ban anyone who won't play their game. Dictatorship in the making due to the huge majority and utter arrogance throughout that party

[Mibbes Aye]

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Is anyone surprised that this is happening? Right wing press almost a huge propoganda machine for the Tories. Little challenge to anything said by them, complete character assassination of Corbyn, Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil, Pearce Morgan etc. They have been allowed to ride roughshod over thruth and facts by these people and now clearly believe that they can just ban anyone who won't play their game. Dictatorship in the making due to the huge majority and utter arrogance throughout that party

Laura Kuenssberg was one of the journalists who walked out in boycott at the attempt to stop other journos attending.

[Just Alf]

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I was just about to post this. It's quite scary, even more so when you read people on social media praising him for showing 'tough leadership' and 'real strength'. Whilst the journalists excluded seem to have been from the more left leaning press it's heartening to see their peers from the likes of the Telegraph and the Mail boycott in support.

When you add in their policy of reducing the ability for the courts to intervene in political decisions it doesn't seem to bode well :-/

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[weecounty hibby]

[QUOTE=Mibbes Aye;6072151]Laura Kuenssberg was one of the journalists who walked out in boycott at the attempt to stop other journos attending.[/QUOTE

Bully for her, she did her job during the election. The use of "sources" by her was a disgrace. She used uncorroborated gossip as fact and all to the benefit of the Tories

[grunt]

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I was just about to post this. It's quite scary, even more so when you read people on social media praising him for showing 'tough leadership' and 'real strength'.

I struggle to believe that many of these social media posts are from real people. I'm astonished that no one has sought to act to stop fake Twitter (in particular) accounts posting supportive comments - on all sides of every debate. There surely can't be that many idiots around. Can there?