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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataplana View Post
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    There have been repeated cases of men from a particular ethnic background being involved in grooming gangs. Your desperation not to see that is completely disrespectful to the victims.

    The evidence stems from victim testimony and from whistle blowers who were ignored and worse. However, it seems there are still some who are getting the wrong end of the stick, and accusing anybody who points this out of being a racist.
    What background though?

    The nation of Pakistan?

    The faith of Islam?

    Groups made up of immigrants of various nationalities and faiths?


    Are there other social aspects involved - poverty (on behalf of victims or perpetrators) or social class? Education levels?

    I'm not saying there isn't a problem, I'm not saying there isn't a "cultural aspect" - there might be - but solid evidence of that is thin on the ground as far as I can see.

    Personally, I would be astonished if political correctness stopped police from adequately investigating child abuse of any nature, although I accept that this has been put forward by some and is worthy of conversation and investigation.


    As far as I can see, what we mainly have are a lot of racist people who have racist beliefs looking for evidence to justify their own beliefs rather than forming their opinions based on evidence, which so far appears to be thin on the ground.

    I should also add that I am not accusing anyone who has contributed to this thread of being in any way racist - as nobody has been - and the subject is certainly worthy of debate. Please just be careful of being drawn in by the propaganda of the racist and the ignorant and forming opinions about nationalities, faiths and groups of people based on flimsy evidence because even though not racist you run the risk of being labelled as one by being taken in by weak argument.

    This has consequences. The more we build barriers amongst ourselves, the more we alienate members of society, the more likely they are to become the people that you are scared of them being.
    Last edited by Smartie; 31-01-2020 at 01:17 PM.

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