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    we are a mid table team

    As it stands we are I reckon a mid table team, that is not what we anyone wants so exactly when is Mr Invisible going to produce this action plan?
    Meantime we need more quality that is just so obvious.

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    As it stands we are I reckon a mid table team, that is not what we anyone wants so exactly when is Mr Invisible going to produce this action plan?
    Meantime we need more quality that is just so obvious.
    Check the stats man.

    We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Check the stats man.

    We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.
    But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by allant1981 View Post
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    But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual
    Stop taking so much sense.....

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    But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual
    I think people are getting a bit panicky as yet no date for AGM and we haven't signed anyone yet. It's natural to be concerned
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    But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual
    If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?

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    If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?
    10

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?
    7. Realised their mistake appointing heckingbottom and they have got the replacement bang on the money. Justifiably allowed the previous manager to bring his own players in after he steadied the ship when Lennon left. Up to the point JR was appointed it would have been a 3/4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Check the stats man.

    We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.
    Using facts to back up a point, it’ll never catch on mate.

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    7. Realised their mistake appointing heckingbottom and they have got the replacement bang on the money. Justifiably allowed the previous manager to bring his own players in after he steadied the ship when Lennon left. Up to the point JR was appointed it would have been a 3/4.
    Wouldn’t disagree with any of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?
    Surely performance should be measured over a longer period? Also I'd suggest that many initiatives and plans are possibly still to come to fruition.

    If you're looking at purely on the pitch performance then clearly mistakes have been made in the last 12 months. The board followed a similar process when appointing the last manager and subsequently backed him in the transfer market.

    It didn't work out. It happens at every club.

    Since then, they sacked PH and moved swiftly to replace him.

    We should always strive to be better. I've seen nothing to suggest the club don't want to be better at everything we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Check the stats man.

    We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.
    And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

    We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    7. Realised their mistake appointing heckingbottom and they have got the replacement bang on the money. Justifiably allowed the previous manager to bring his own players in after he steadied the ship when Lennon left. Up to the point JR was appointed it would have been a 3/4.
    Surely it’s too early to judge Ross as the right appointment? I think he will be proved a good appointment, and it’s undeniable he has improved us. However Heckingbottom, despite arguments about performances, also improved us last season before a woeful summer window and it unraveled this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    I think people are getting a bit panicky as yet no date for AGM and we haven't signed anyone yet. It's natural to be concerned
    Do folk really get panicky about the AGM? We have loads of time to get folk signed, GM has already said we are working on getting players in

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?
    At this stage probably a 6 or 7

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    And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

    We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.
    The point would be that as an owner of a Premiership club he would be able to influence matters such as TV rights. All he has to do is keep us in the top division.

    Maybe not what we want to hear, but a plausible reason for getting involved.

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    Check the stats man.

    We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

    A sense of realism is that we are one of the biggest clubs in scotland yet we have rarely ever acted like one. The hibs board/owner cannot change the past but they can change the future. At the moment the whole takeover has been pretty much a damp squib. We were told we should be excited when it was all announced; what have we actually got to be excited about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve20 View Post
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    And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

    We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.
    If that's you thoughts then fair enough. I think we all want to improve and be better. I was simply pointing out that cheap shots at our new owner are baseless.

    FWIW I'm sure he wants us to be much higher than you suggest. But this ambition has to be met with a sense of realism.

    He made a financial commitment from day one. There will be more to come.

    One things certain. He's not going to dramatically pump millions into us over night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by we are hibs View Post
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    A sense of realism is that we are one of the biggest clubs in scotland yet we have rarely ever acted like one. The hibs board/owner cannot change the past but they can change the future. At the moment the whole takeover has been pretty much a damp squib. We were told we should be excited when it was all announced; what have we actually got to be excited about?
    He's owned us for 6 months. What were you expecting at this point?

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    He's owned us for 6 months. What were you expecting at this point?
    I wasnt expecting anything. We were told we should be excited and they were looking forward to telling us more in the coming weeks and months. We have currently been told nothing more. We were then told january so we will wait and see what happens in the remaining 2 weeks. I dont see why people being curious and concerned is such a problem though when theres so many more questions than answers still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allant1981 View Post
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    Do folk really get panicky about the AGM? We have loads of time to get folk signed, GM has already said we are working on getting players in
    I think more so this one as we want to hear the plans
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    He's owned us for 6 months. What were you expecting at this point?
    I can’t speak for the person you’ve quoted but my answers would be the following:-

    For us to be more ambitious in the transfer market. Both the last managers have spoken of having to move players on before bringing other players in. Considering how average a squad we have just now that’s not great to hear

    Some plans from him as to how we’re going to challenge the teams above us, it doesn’t sound like it’s going to be by out spending them so how are we going to do it?

    What his bigger picture plans are, infrastructure plans etc.....not asking for detailed plans but it’d be nice to know what he’s thinking.

    An AGM and accounts that I believe are months overdue. I’m not a numbers man myself however I think the lack of transparency is starting to be a bit of a concern.

    I know you say it’s only 6 months but that’s quite a long time in football. Presumably he had some plans before finalising the deal as well so you’d assume plans have been getting made for 6-9 months now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by we are hibs View Post
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    A sense of realism is that we are one of the biggest clubs in scotland yet we have rarely ever acted like one. The hibs board/owner cannot change the past but they can change the future. At the moment the whole takeover has been pretty much a damp squib. We were told we should be excited when it was all announced; what have we actually got to be excited about?
    There is also a false expectation of someone pumping in millions as is seen all over England. However this doesn't translate north of the border.

    Hibs have the 5th best average finish in the Premier over the last 20 years which is about right on budget terms.

    Is it worth millions to get the coveted 3rd force label.?

    I think Hibs need to get the footballing side right on the budget they have, other teams can over perform. St Johnstone recently have been a great example. Maybe RG is looking that way and it's not a quick fix and millions wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee View Post
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    There is also a false expectation of someone pumping in millions as is seen all over England. However this doesn't translate north of the border.

    Hibs have the 5th best average finish in the Premier over the last 20 years which is about right on budget terms.

    Is it worth millions to get the coveted 3rd force label.?

    I think Hibs need to get the footballing side right on the budget they have, other teams can over perform. St Johnstone recently have been a great example. Maybe RG is looking that way and it's not a quick fix and millions wasted.
    That is basically what he said when he came in. A bit more revenue and focus on player development and overall better football management should see us best if the rest and occasional challenge to old firm. Well sourced and developed players should see us challenge the old firm more, they are not world beaters.

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    Surely it’s too early to judge Ross as the right appointment? I think he will be proved a good appointment, and it’s undeniable he has improved us. However Heckingbottom, despite arguments about performances, also improved us last season before a woeful summer window and it unraveled this season.
    Based on the evidence so far I’d say he’s a good appointment, fair enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs View Post
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    That is basically what he said when he came in. A bit more revenue and focus on player development and overall better football management should see us best if the rest and occasional challenge to old firm. Well sourced and developed players should see us challenge the old firm more, they are not world beaters.
    That’s just what we’ve always tried to do.

    If that’s really Rons plan then it’s not great to be honest.

    Every team tries to source and develop the best players they can, if we’re spending less than our competitors how are we going to do that? That’s what I want to know.

    Charging the punters a few extra quid for booking fees and getting more people buying Hibs tv won’t make a bit difference. Getting a sponsor next year would help so I’m sure he’s working on that but if we’re still shopping in the same market for sponsors as we were last season you’ve got to imagine we’re not going to be inundated with huge offers this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    I think more so this one as we want to hear the plans
    I'm intrigued to hear his plans but cant say I'm getting panicky about the agm, by all accounts he is a successful business man so clearly not daft and knows how to run a business, as does LD so cant see any reason to be panicking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee View Post
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    There is also a false expectation of someone pumping in millions as is seen all over England. However this doesn't translate north of the border.

    Hibs have the 5th best average finish in the Premier over the last 20 years which is about right on budget terms.

    Is it worth millions to get the coveted 3rd force label.?

    I think Hibs need to get the footballing side right on the budget they have, other teams can over perform. St Johnstone recently have been a great example. Maybe RG is looking that way and it's not a quick fix and millions wasted.
    Have Aberdeen spent millions this season?

    Hibs have the highest priced season tickets in the league outside the OF and we are just to accept 5th place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Check the stats man.

    We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.
    Makes you wonder why he got involved in that case.

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