Who is the better signing: Doidge or Shankland?

[bigwheel]

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Shanklands doing at Dundee Utd about the same as he did at Ayr for what sounds like a lot more money.

Looks like all the SPFL clubs including celtc and sevco are the losers here.



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Can’t argue with that..I wonder what it was that stopped many going for him ....

[Bostonhibby]

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Can’t argue with that..I wonder what it was that stopped many going for him ....

Time will tell I guess, from Scotland's point of view I'd like to see if he can transcend the Championship but I'm not going to use him as a stick to beat Hibs or Hibs players with.

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[IncredibleHibee]

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Doidge is not terrible

You’re right, he’s awful

[HoboHarry]

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I am assuming this is a joke from the OP. Doidge is terrible. Shankland is a Scotland internationalist

So is Ian Black. What's your point caller?

[Centre Hawf]

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Can’t argue with that..I wonder what it was that stopped many going for him ....

This seems to get said a lot and while I don't think that Celtic and Rangers were exactly going for him. The fact he's on a high wage at Dundee United suggests to me he had offers elsewhere to tempt him to stay in the championship.

[Allant1981]

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You’re right, he’s awful

Away you go

[bigwheel]

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This seems to get said a lot and while I don't think that Celtic and Rangers were exactly going for him. The fact he's on a high wage at Dundee United suggests to me he had offers elsewhere to tempt him to stay in the championship.

Could be. But no evidence of that. He wanted a move out of his league, and didn’t get one ..so doesn’t suggest there were many (any?) other offers

[calumhibee1]

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You’re right, he’s awful

Player of the month for the whole league recently. A league with numerous £10m+ rated players.

[basehibby]

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You’re right, he’s awful

Since we're in the mood for hyperbole - you're an ********

[SHODAN]

Mind after the derby when the vast majority of us thought Doidge was MOTM? Guess that's all been forgotten now we have another opportunity to fawn all over a player who doesn't play for us and never will.

[JDHibs]

In what sense is this comparable?

Different leagues for a start. Cummings scored for fun in the championship, dont recall him doing much at Rangers? Different levels completely.
Utd are basically the Celtic of the championship budgets wise, we are 5th in the premiership in that respect.
Utd have by far the best squad/players in the championship, which has been built up over 2 or 3 seasons, we had a poor summer transfer window & took 3 months to really get going.

As for Shankland being a "free" transfer, rumours he got a £250k signing on fee & £5k a week wages, plus bonuses, would suggest its not a cheap deal, its a deal to get them promoted then sell him to recover costs. Its desperate on their part.

Of course Shankland looks the better if you look at the top line stats. Dig a little deeper & they arent even close to being comaparable. Doidge is on course to get 15-20 goals this season in the league, something only Griffiths has done in recent years in the premiership & a very good return for a striker at Hibs. Not bad for a team that were toiling badly until October.

[calumhibee1]

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In what sense is this comparable?

Different leagues for a start. Cummings scored for fun in the championship, dont recall him doing much at Rangers? Different levels completely.
Utd are basically the Celtic of the championship budgets wise, we are 5th in the premiership in that respect.
Utd have by far the best squad/players in the championship, which has been built up over 2 or 3 seasons, we had a poor summer transfer window & took 3 months to really get going.

As for Shankland being a "free" transfer, rumours he got a £250k signing on fee & £5k a week wages, plus bonuses, would suggest its not a cheap deal, its a deal to get them promoted then sell him to recover costs. Its desperate on their part.

Of course Shankland looks the better if you look at the top line stats. Dig a little deeper & they arent even close to being comaparable. Doidge is on course to get 15-20 goals this season in the league, something only Griffiths has done in recent years in the premiership & a very good return for a striker at Hibs. Not bad for a team that were toiling badly until October.

The fact Doidge is heading for over 15 goals this season is massively overlooked by some. And he also offers a good bit more than just goals. He’s been a good signing overall.

[Barman Stanton]

A shame that some Hibs fans seem to be using the success of someone else's player as an excuse to put the boot into one of our own. You get the sense that some people had already made their mind up about Doidge, and just cant give him any credit even when he is playing well / scoring goals.

re why no one else seemed to go for Shankland, who knows. Why did no one else seem interested in McGinn when we signed him? Sure he was almost off to America. These things just happen sometimes.

[WeeRussell]

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Or, alternatively most of us could say that we have never seen Shankland play - and while its clear the laddie knows where the goals are, all of his goals have been against lower league dross whereas Doidge has only ever scored in the top division in Scotland.

More balanced?

Most could, yes. But maybe a lot of us have. I’ve personally watched him play enough (on tv and in person) to form an opinion that he’s a quality striker and would be brilliant for Hibs. But still not be cheering for United on Sunday...

[WeeRussell]

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Nice grown-up comment there...

Thanks. But what would you expect given the post I quoted?

[calumhibee1]

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A shame that some Hibs fans seem to be using the success of someone else's player as an excuse to put the boot into one of our own. You get the sense that some people had already made their mind up about Doidge, and just cant give him any credit even when he is playing well / scoring goals.

re why no one else seemed to go for Shankland, who knows. Why did no one else seem interested in McGinn when we signed him? Sure he was almost off to America. These things just happen sometimes.

Forgot about that with SJM. Oh how different things could have been for us and him!

[silverhibee]

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I can’t be bother arguing Gordy. I said Shankland would be a great signing and saying for the last two years we should be looking at him.

We were interested in him when Lennon was here, take it that cooled when he left.

[silverhibee]

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Can’t argue with that..I wonder what it was that stopped many going for him ....

He was at Ayr Utd, I doubt Celtc or Rangers would have been interested him at the time, even when he was under contract at Ayr, was it McCall who was manager and saying it would take silly money for Ayr to sell or he wasn't for sale at any price, Lennon was interested in him but maybe wages or fee at the time scared us off.

[tonyrougier123]

Big doidge is the main man no iffs no buts.
Lets see how wee hamshanks handles his stuff on sunday.
But big doidge is a hero in my book f#!= the haters 2020 year of the doidge!! 💚💚💚💚

[wookie70]

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In what sense is this comparable?

Different leagues for a start. Cummings scored for fun in the championship, dont recall him doing much at Rangers? Different levels completely.

Scored at approximately a goal every 1.9-2 games in both Championship and Premiership. Too small a sample of the Rangers to really know though.

[beensaidbefore]

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Thanks. But what would you expect given the post I quoted?

The grown up response, imo, would have been to ignore it. The constant sniping at other posters on here is very tiresome. I'm not saying it's just you, but it's constant and makes this place a lot less enjoyable for the rest of us.

[hibbysam]

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There’s no need for the told you so, I’m more gutted we missed the boat.

Shankland will make the grade. I’m not sure why we can’t just admit Dundee Utd have a player on their hands? It’s not a criticism of Hibs. It’s like ignoring how ***** Aberdeen was for two decades before McInness took over and fall over themselves to explain why he’s not done that good a job up there when he’s been outstanding for them.

He might make the grade. Anyone who watched Jason Cummings in the championship (and scoring against the top sides in the country in the biggest of games) would have been adamant he’d make the grade, he never. I’m neither here nor there with Shankland, but there’s a massive question mark over his head until he does.

The part about it not being a criticism of hibs may be true from your POV, however there is at least a couple on this thread lambasting the club for not signing him, and probably making him our highest paid player of the last decade and a half, I can certainly understand why we wouldn’t take such a risk.

[Unseen work]

Worth remembering whilst at Rangers Cummings played out wide of a front 3.

He would score a lot in this league playing up top

[WeeRussell]

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Worth remembering whilst at Rangers Cummings played out wide of a front 3.

He would score a lot in this league playing up top

I think so too. I'd still take Cummings back at Hibs, despite us being in a league he supposedly can't cut it in.

And Shankland is a better footballer than Cummings, in my opinion.

[hfc-1875]

We couldn’t afford shanklands wages. I remember just after he signed for Dundee Utd there was a story in the paper which said he was on a wage no one outside the old firm could match.

[BILLYHIBS]

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I think so too. I'd still take Cummings back at Hibs, despite us being in a league he supposedly can't cut it in.

And Shankland is a better footballer than Cummings, in my opinion.

Dunno I thought Jase had come on leaps and bounds after being down south playing out wide for Der Hun

His ball retention passing and link up play seemed to have improved and he looked quicker and sharper

All Shankland does is score goals 😁

[MWHIBBIES]

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We couldn’t afford shanklands wages. I remember just after he signed for Dundee Utd there was a story in the paper which said he was on a wage no one outside the old firm could match.

If Dundee United can afford it Hibs can afford it. They might be overpaying and we might have had to as well but we definitely could pay more than them.

[Is It On....]

Nisbet of Dunfermline is scoring at very similar rate to Shankland. JC (all he does is score!!) also scored loads for Hibs in the Championship and moved last summer We can't look back and have placed our money on Doidge so let's hope CD was the right call 🙂

[Cataplana]

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Nisbet of Dunfermline is scoring at very similar rate to Shankland. JC (all he does is score!!) also scored loads for Hibs in the Championship and moved last summer We can't look back and have placed our money on Doidge so let's hope CD was the right call 🙂

Nisbet actually scored more than Shankland last season.

[WeeRussell]

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Dunno I thought Jase had come on leaps and bounds after being down south playing out wide for Der Hun

His ball retention passing and link up play seemed to have improved and he looked quicker and sharper

All Shankland does is score goals 😁

I'm sure your comment is in jest - but it's exactly this that sets him a good bit ahead of Cummings for me. He doesn't just score goals, his first touch, laying-off, football brain, movement and all-round game looks very, very good when you watch him. He also scores all types of goals, including with his heid.

I reiterate though - here's hoping he is p1sh at all of the above on Sunday