Ron Gordon

[Jack Hackett]

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Barcelo Malaga? I would have booked, but there was no view of the Castle available - even with chips on the bar menu, it fell short of what I was looking for.

Did an over-nighter a couple of years back, and I can confirm the lack of (Edinburgh) castle view... which was actually a relief. I also declined an invitation to use the slide, as I wasn't looking for a hertz experience... all the way from the top to the bottom in a year

[Cataplana]

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Did an over-nighter a couple of years back, and I can confirm the lack of (Edinburgh) castle view... which was actually a relief. I also declined an invitation to use the slide, as I wasn't looking for a hertz experience... all the way from the top to the bottom in a year

That is one slow slide, and makes me gladder I didn't book. In fact it is yet more proof that hotels are a thing of the past.

[Jack Hackett]

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That is one slow slide, and makes me gladder I didn't book. In fact it is yet more proof that hotels are a thing of the past.

... and hertz

[bingo70]

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The last page and a half are vintage Hibs.net.

Hibs are going to potter about roughly mid-table in the top league of Scotland for about 90% of our existence. We'll win a trophy every decade or so, get relegated every couple of decades. We'll occasionally qualify for Europe, allowing us to go on fun trips abroad, we'll occasionally get dumped out of domestic cups by unimaginably poor opposition. Managers will come and go, chairmen will come and go, owners will come and go.

The idea that Ron Gordon is going to revolutionise anything is cringeworthy, so the anticipation of "big news" is asking for the piss to be ripped and I'm delighted to see so many people step up to the plate.

Hibs for many people will always be a vehicle for discussion, for fun, for laughing and joking about with their mates and that's what's happening here. Ok, sometimes it gets serious but it can't be serious all the time.

Other opinions are, of course, available.

You need a shot on that big slide imo.

Or maybe a Snickers.

So Hibs get taken over by a Peruvian millionaire, we don’t get told what his plans are or into any depth as to why he bought the club. We don’t hear from him other than a 5 minute interview on the hibs tv channel but we are told we will hear more after he’s assessed the club and put into place his business plan, which is due to be around about now.

By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

[PaulSmith]

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Somebody got out of bed on the wrong side this morning.

Not at all, I was simply hoping that I’d come into a Hibs site and read/debate about Ron Gordon’s plans for Hibs.

I realise that this site is now more used for “friends banter” rather than what it was once good for, that’s absolutely fine so feel free to crack on with comments about chutes, escalators, castles and in house jokes that no else else finds funny.

[Allant1981]

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Not at all, I was simply hoping that I’d come into a Hibs site and read/debate about Ron Gordon’s plans for Hibs.

I realise that this site is now more used for “friends banter” rather than what it was once good for, that’s absolutely fine so feel free to crack on with comments about chutes, escalators, castles and in house jokes that no else else finds funny.

What did you realistically think you were going to read on here about the plans that he has for the club seeing as no one outside the club actually knows what's happening

[Keith_M]

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By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

Can I just ask, what is it you expect from people as a reply?




We have just as much knowledge of what his plans are as you do, so we can't provide any useful answers.

The alternatives are:

1. Go off on a total rant about how the club have left us in the dark, perhaps with meaningless threats about handing our season tickets back.
2. Post a reply saying, "don't know"
3. Reply with various theories, none based on any inside knowledge whatsoever, so not of any use to anybody.
4. Not take the thread too seriously and engage in speculation, interspersed with (admittedly quite often poor) attempts at humour
5. Ignore the thread completely.

Which of the above options would suit you the most?

[Hibbyradge]

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So Hibs get taken over by a Peruvian millionaire, we don’t get told what his plans are or into any depth as to why he bought the club. We don’t hear from him other than a 5 minute interview on the hibs tv channel but we are told we will hear more after he’s assessed the club and put into place his business plan, which is due to be around about now.

By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

There was nothing wrong with your post, which contained 2 questions. "Did anyone know if RG was still in Edinburgh?" and "Were you right that we were due to hear do?".

The answers were "No" and "Yes".

When people start speculating about what the announcement might contain, it becomes pointless and it's inevitable that when folk start fantasising about hotels and student accommodation, Hibs supporters clubs etc, it's going to descend into a piss take.

[Hibbyradge]

In fact, Stoneyburn's first post was the most accurate.

He said that it was probably best not to speculate.

[bingo70]

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Can I just ask, what is it you expect from people as a reply?




We have just as much knowledge of what his plans are as you do, so we can't provide any useful answers.

The alternatives are:

1) Go off on a total rant about how the club have left us in the dark, perhaps with meaningless threats about handing our season tickets back.
2) Post a reply saying, "don't know"
3) Reply with various theories, none based on any inside knowledge whatsoever, so not of any use to anybody.
4) Not take the thread too seriously and engage in speculation, interspersed with (admittedly quite often poor) attempts at humour
5) Ignore the thread completely.


Which of the above options would suit you the most?

First of all, I wondered if anybody knew if he was still in Edinburgh, as that would give an indication if we’d be hearing from him soon.

Other than that I was wondering if anybody had any theories, ideas or had heard rumours as to what his plans might be, seeing as it’s not something that we’ve really heard from him, that seems a reasonable enough talking point to me on a Hibs message board?

As it turns out, I remembered the interview incorrectly, I thought he has said there was big plans. Someone corrected me on that, that’s fine, I just don’t think there’s a need for the smart ***** point scoring or being dicks about it.

FWIW I had decided not to come back on the thread as no good was coming from it any more, after reading it though, I appreciated Paul Smiths points and agreed with him so wanted to chuck my tuppence worth in.

[Keith_M]

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In fact, Stoneyburn's first post was the most accurate.

He said that it was probably best not to speculate.

So the OP could have closed the thread at that point and saved himself a lot of stress.

[bingo70]

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In fact, Stoneyburn's first post was the most accurate.

He said that it was probably best not to speculate.

Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.

[HoboHarry]

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Can I just ask, what is it you expect from people as a reply?




We have just as much knowledge of what his plans are as you do, so we can't provide any useful answers.

The alternatives are:

1. Go off on a total rant about how the club have left us in the dark, perhaps with meaningless threats about handing our season tickets back.
2. Post a reply saying, "don't know"
3. Reply with various theories, none based on any inside knowledge whatsoever, so not of any use to anybody.
4. Not take the thread too seriously and engage in speculation, interspersed with (admittedly quite often poor) attempts at humour
5. Ignore the thread completely.

Which of the above options would suit you the most?

Those alternatives could apply to a good number of threads these days, including the various transfer threads

[Keith_M]

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Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.

In fairness, there was a rather long discussion on the subject of building a Hotel.

There was a reminder that Gordon had mentioned development on the Training Centre, and his Pony Up phrase

Somebody mentioned other ways to fill in the corners.

Then people ran out of genuine ideas and it went all DotNet.

I honestly don't see what the problem is.

[hibbie02]

Its always been the Hibs.net way. We are not party to inside information, so speculation happens and then the banter merchants pile in. ‘‘Twas always the way. It would be pretty quiet on here if we only discussed known facts and in the know low down.


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[Weegreenman]

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Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.

Exactly mate.

[Pretty Boy]

I think this thread remained relatively serious for a long while, as it ran out of steam it got a bit silly.

I've no real issue with that. The truth is no one on here knows anything about the plans of Ron Gordon, our transfer dealings or how much a pie is going to cost next season. It's all speculation, rumour and guesswork. If you are looking to Hibs.net for serious information on what is happening at Hibs then you are probably looking in the wrong place. With that speculation there is always going to be an element of piss take and daftness.

[JohnMcM]

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I'm absolutely serious. It's based on a bit of supposition, his own 'pony up' comment and a few rumours and whispers that seem to be doing the rounds.

I agree it won't be particularly favourable received if it proves to be true.

Very old mate of mine had to use those supposition things for a wee while because he couldn't pass his own pony and trap. Rumour was that he whispered to his doctor who was doing his rounds they were a pain in the a@@e.

[Smartie]

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So Hibs get taken over by a Peruvian millionaire, we don’t get told what his plans are or into any depth as to why he bought the club. We don’t hear from him other than a 5 minute interview on the hibs tv channel but we are told we will hear more after he’s assessed the club and put into place his business plan, which is due to be around about now.

By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

I don't really know what you were expecting.

There are plenty of reasonable suggestions on here, some fanciful ones that folk think are serious and a wee bit of nonsense.

It's a decent thread.

Every now and again subjects are raised that aren't to my liking and there are jokes I just don't get, that's the way it's going to be when you have a site read by thousands and contributed to by hundreds. Never though do I feel the need to lecture anyone or claim that because there are half a dozen posts about nonsense that the whole site has somehow gone downhill.

There seems to be something about transfer windows and no football that when we start to fill our time with a bit of harmless daft stuff that we have the incredibly serious brigade who get upset that the site isn't 100% full of ITK facts and knowledge.

Ron Gordon has been secretive as appears to be his way. I don't suspect he'll have any real big plans as I don't know what plans he could possibly come up with. The food might get a bit better. We might get a sponsorship deal. Our playing budget will largely be commensurate with our standing in the Scottish game, as it should be. I don't think there will be hotels or the discovery of half-time entertainment that is any different or better than we have currently or goes on elsewhere. I'm happy to hear folk come up with serious suggestions, I'm happy for folk to come up with crazy suggestions and I'm especially happy for folk to take the piss. When I post something that I know is a bit contentious (such as the post you have replied to) then I expect a bit of grief back.

Apologies if you thought my post was more mocking than it actually was intended to be, which was not the intention at all. I just quite like the talk of chutes, escalators, ski jumps and chaps etc - it makes me chuckle, but I appreciate that is not the case for everyone.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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I think this thread remained relatively serious for a long while, as it ran out of steam it got a bit silly.

I've no real issue with that. The truth is no one on here knows anything about the plans of Ron Gordon, our transfer dealings or how much a pie is going to cost next season. It's all speculation, rumour and guesswork. If you are looking to Hibs.net for serious information on what is happening at Hibs then you are probably looking in the wrong place. With that speculation there is always going to be an element of piss take and daftness.

Is it not just a question of timing?
Would announcements around Christmas not just upstage the important thing - making top 6?
Keep the eye on the prize and announce as we commence the latter part of the season or whenever he’s choosing fit. How could someone new to the industry in the just in the club 5 minutes have any credibility unless sufficient time was spent examining the art of the possible versus the aspiration and then announcing something of substance?

[PaulSmith]

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What did you realistically think you were going to read on here about the plans that he has for the club seeing as no one outside the club actually knows what's happening

Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

[Smartie]

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Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

I don't disagree with you and think this is a pretty good post. You make good points.

But must serious debate and nonsense be mutually exclusive?

Is it so hard to spend less than 5 seconds scan reading a post, realising that it is nonsense of no interest and leaving it at that before moving to the next one where you might find more of what you are looking for?

When a subject is as speculative as this it is always going to veer a bit along the way.

[Cataplana]

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Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

How realistic can those discussions be though? I have to concede though, you have come up with some good topics.

I am not sure who Archie Paton is, so would be keen to learn how he might use his contacts, as well.
I am definitely keen to hear how we could get into the Europa League, as I have seen this as the way Hibs have had to go for the last 25 years.
I do think debate on Ron Gordon would be a bit silly without any real statement from him, or somebody who actually has any idea about accounting or business to comment on his status. "He must be good because...." is about as much use to me as saying he can steer a submarine around the Baltic.

But, nobody actually mentioned those. Your thoughts on the first two would be welcome though.

[matty_f]

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I don't disagree with you and think this is a pretty good post. You make good points.

But must serious debate and nonsense be mutually exclusive?

Is it so hard to spend less than 5 seconds scan reading a post, realising that it is nonsense of no interest and leaving it at that before moving to the next one where you might find more of what you are looking for?

When a subject is as speculative as this it is always going to veer a bit along the way.

I agree.

There's room for serious discussion as much as the nonsense for whoever wants it.

I think a good topic would be to discuss what people would do if they were in charge. What would they change/ prioritise etc.

[BroxburnHibee]

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Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

Now that is a very good post. One which you could have posted a while back instead of having a pop at the site.

I've just read through the thread and don't see much wrong apart from the discussion tailing off as no one really knows anything.

I honestly don't see what got you so upset.

Hopefully you'll get some good responses to that post.

[Keith_M]

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Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

Feel free to contribute everything you know about those subjects.

Keep in mind that every single bit of it would be pure speculation and no more useful than the attempts at humour made by some.

Unless, of course, you yourself have any genuine inside info.

[Brightside]

I think they will announce naming rights for HTC and Easter Rd. I fully expect that Archie Paton is driving all the work on the new strategy.

[hibsbollah]

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Feel free to contribute everything you know about those subjects.

...and any humour you feel like you want to share

[Keith_M]

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I think they will announce naming rights for HTC and Easter Rd. I fully expect that Archie Paton is driving all the work on the new strategy.

Decent source of income, if so.

I personally wouldn't mind them changing the name of ER if it brought decent money in, as it would still be ER to me.

I hope they can get some shirt sponsorship sorted as well.

[Vault Boy]

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I think they will announce naming rights for HTC and Easter Rd. I fully expect that Archie Paton is driving all the work on the new strategy.

HTC would make complete sense, although I'm sure many of us wouldn't be pleased if the stadium changed its name.