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    St Johnstone to start giving Old Firm THREE stands at McDairmid

    It’s a shame they have to do this, but with such a poor home support it makes economic sense I suppose, but I can’t think of anything worse than a home game with three sides Rangers or Celtic. Can’t see the residents of Perth being too enamoured with hoards of Old Firm fans descending on their city for a mass jolly a few times a season.

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    It's everything that's wrong with football in this country that our top level teams feel the need to do this.

    Pitiful.

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    If the extra income means they will finish above Hear7s then I’m all for it. 😂

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    They struggle to fill their stadium so it makes financial sense for them, shame they are bowing down to that mob though

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    Hey, Ugly Sisters, we want to be your bitch. Like a lot of the other minnows, we can’t live without you. Carry on abusing us, we don’t even mind your sectarian hatred.

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    They only average about 2000 home fans so it probably makes sense. They have done everything they can with amazing family deals etc while maintaining brilliant league positions and actually playing decent football. They may as well make a few extra quid. Sad but the generations of potential St J kids obviously chose the Uglies over their local team.

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    It's up to them.

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    Livi already do it and we just lost to them. Glad Hibs will never do it but these daft tinpot clubs need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carheenlea View Post
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    It’s a shame they have to do this, but with such a poor home support it makes economic sense I suppose, but I can’t think of anything worse than a home game with three sides Rangers or Celtic. Can’t see the residents of Perth being too enamoured with hoards of Old Firm fans descending on their city for a mass jolly a few times a season.

    https://perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/new...angers-matches
    Maybe if the residents of Perth went along to see their team every once and a while they wouldn’t have to.

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    They only average about 2000 home fans so it probably makes sense. They have done everything they can with amazing family deals etc while maintaining brilliant league positions and actually playing decent football. They may as well make a few extra quid. Sad but the generations of potential St J kids obviously chose the Uglies over their local team.
    They only had 1400 fans against Rangers at the last home games so while on one hand they can easily fit all the home fans in one stand I can see them having even less home fans for the next game against Rangers as I for one wouldn't entertain a home game where that lot are given 3 stands and they may make a short term gain out of it but long term...

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    In the days before all seater stadiums and when most fans paid at the gate,these two Glasgow clubs vastly outnumbered most home supports.
    Some clubs with average gates around say 5.000 would swell three or four times that against those 2 depending on stadium size.
    Money talks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick O'Rourke View Post
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    In the days before all seater stadiums and when most fans paid at the gate,these two Glasgow clubs vastly outnumbered many home supports.
    Some clubs with average gates around say 5.000 would swell three or four times that depending on stadium size.
    Money talks
    Including us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    Maybe if the residents of Perth went along to see their team every once and a while they wouldn’t have to.
    There are only about 45k people in Perth? They are getting a bigger percentage of the population of Perth than we are managing in Edinburgh I imagine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    Including us.
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    Embarrassing.

    Seeing stuff like this is one of the reasons why I'd prefer if teams like this got relegated instead of Hearts.

    Imagine being a top division team and giving 75% of your stadium's capacity over to the fans of your opponents. Not only that but for the few fans that actually do come out and support them, guess what? They'll relocate their season ticket seat.

    I hope we get the likes of St Johnstone, Livingston and Hamilton down to the Championship and replace them with the likes of Dundee Utd, Dundee and Dunfermline.

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    Selling their soul. All st.johnstone fans will be in their main stand which is the one the tv camera is in. So that will be the whole world only seeing 3 stands full of celtic and rangers fans for an apparent away game. horrific advert for scottish football.

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    Everything wrong with Scottish football in a nutshell. Why even bother showing up?

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    Embarrassing.

    Seeing stuff like this is one of the reasons why I'd prefer if teams like this got relegated instead of Hearts.

    Imagine being a top division team and giving 75% of your stadium's capacity over to the fans of your opponents. Not only that but for the few fans that actually do come out and support them, guess what? They'll relocate their season ticket seat.

    I hope we get the likes of St Johnstone, Livingston and Hamilton down to the Championship and replace them with the likes of Dundee Utd, Dundee and Dunfermline.
    Pretty sure Dundee United gave the old firm 3 out of the 5 stands, Dunfermline 2 out of 4 (plus maybe some of the main stand??).

    Just shows you that regardless of how low you make the prices, people just won’t come, which totally disregards the argument from some on here to offer massively reduced family deals and expect it’ll increase attendances so much to make it worth our while.

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    A pragmatic approach from those running their club.
    They have a small fan base and barely enough cash to operate in the top league.
    Can't afford to look a gift horse in the mouth.

    At least they have 4 stands and a grass pitch.

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    Is this anything new? I was under the impression they always got 3 stands at st johnstone, thought killie did it on occasion too (thinking of the game when rangers pumped them about 6-0 at rugby park to win the league in about 2010(ish).

    It’s a shame, but better than seats lying empty. That’s a bigger shame and looks awful on tv.

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    Livi already do it and we just lost to them. Glad Hibs will never do it but these daft tinpot clubs need it.
    In that case you will be happy with the supporters of the two big Glasgow teams seeing Hibs in the same light.

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    Is it better for St Johnstone football club to have a stadium of empty seats or a stadium full of opposition fans?

    Seems like a good move to me. Bringing in new players and paying better wages takes more money. This will give them more money.

    I’d hate Hibs to do it, but fortunately we don’t have to.

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    Is it better for St Johnstone football club to have a stadium of empty seats or a stadium full of opposition fans?

    Seems like a good move to me. Bringing in new players and paying better wages takes more money. This will give them more money.

    I’d hate Hibs to do it, but fortunately we don’t have to.
    You're saying that from the outside in mate.
    Imagine that if you're 20 years deep into a season ticket at St Johnstone.
    I'd feel embarrassed, enraged and completely at odds with the club I love

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    In that case you will be happy with the supporters of the two big Glasgow teams seeing Hibs in the same light.
    Can't really imagine a world in which I care what those bigots think. Same as Livi and Saints fans don't care what I think.

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    St Johnsone down, Dunfermline up please

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    I'd rather Scottish football stadiums were full than empty, tbh.

    In the 70s, Hibs fans were often outnumbered by Rantic fans.

    I remember being at Easter Road in 1974 against Celtic and there were about 50000 at the game.

    We were getting around 10k against most teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs View Post
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    You're saying that from the outside in mate.
    Imagine that if you're 20 years deep into a season ticket at St Johnstone.
    I'd feel embarrassed, enraged and completely at odds with the club I love
    They’ve had plenty chances and given plenty initiatives to try keep their support happy. In that time check the league places Saints have had, Scottish Cup wins etc. If their board want to take the money of the old firm fans, half probably come from Perth and around as glory hunting *******s and if it’s to help stay in the league with the money I’m not sure their support will grumble, they should trust the board that’s kept them up so long and delivered what they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    St Johnsone down, Dunfermline up please
    Then it would be three stands of glory hunting fifer ****s when they play Celtic or the huns 😂😂

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    They’ve had plenty chances and given plenty initiatives to try keep their support happy. In that time check the league places Saints have had, Scottish Cup wins etc. If their board want to take the money of the old firm fans, half probably come from Perth and around as glory hunting *******s and if it’s to help stay in the league with the money I’m not sure their support will grumble, they should trust the board that’s kept them up so long and delivered what they have.
    Terrible blinkered reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs View Post
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    Terrible blinkered reply.
    Blinkered towards what?

    Would I want it at Easter Road? God know, I wish their allocation got cut and we had enough fans to come out to make that happen.

    Do I understand St Johnstone could get relegated this year and the difference could be a bunch of bigots in seats for season ticket holders, course I do.

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